Savage MSR 15 recon 2.0 or Ruger Ar-556 MPR. Both are in stock at Cabelas and I have some points and gift cards to use. Will carry it in pickup to shoot prairie dogs and coyotes. Which one is better, most accurate, best buy?
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Both. Or neither.Which one is better, most accurate, best buy?
Don't overlook the Aero "complete" uppers don't include a BCG or charging handle.honestly, I'd say neither.
you can pick up a complete Aero upper for sub 500 right now and their complete lowers are at 250. That is what I'd do but if you must go these two, the Ruger has plenty of reviews that are positive
some do but even still, an AO precision bcg is less than 100 and you are still at or below the ruger and savage and with nothing proprietary. BA barrels are well regarded as moa or better (regardless of the guarantee). I don't see it as much of a choice to be honest but variety is good!Don't overlook the Aero "complete" uppers don't include a BCG or charging handle.
I have a Ruger MPR that's nominally a 3/4 moa gun with ADI 69gr ammo. It has a unique bolt carrier that's chrome lined and nitrided, with a very slick polishing job; it's super easy to clean. The trigger is pretty nice, mine had a touch of creep but I only noticed it dry firing. It has a unique barrel profile that is on the heavy side. Also, the handguard holes/slots are not well chamfered and can be rough sliding it through one's hands. Overall, I'm really happy with mine and have slowly upgraded it over building something entirely custom.
Was unaware they switched the BCG. good to hear! Howwever everything I am seeing says the pull weight of the factory trigger is around 7.5 pounds. I was referring to the 5.56 not the MPR. As you said some springs will bring it down too. Either way. Still cheaper than an aero, especially if he has rebates at Cabela's and as for the proprietary, I'd double check the ejection port as well. I don't believe that is milspec. Again not a big deal of you don't plan on changing anything. From what I'm reading, the only milspec part on these rifles is the BCG now.Ruger changed to a shrouded carrier a few years ago. My MPR had a trigger pull weight of ~4.5 lbs, Kaw Valley springs brought it down to the 3.5-4 lbf range. There's nothing really proprietary on the rifle other than the handguard/barrel nut, which should be expected.
most people are happy with the Ruger mpr, I have not heard anything on the savage.Savage MSR 15 recon 2.0 or Ruger Ar-556 MPR. Both are in stock at Cabelas and I have some points and gift cards to use. Will carry it in pickup to shoot prairie dogs and coyotes. Which one is better, most accurate, best buy?
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The OP didn't ask about best on the market. Simply wanted to know which of the two rifles he specified would people recommend.@Imthatguywithquestions Care to elaborate what's so funny?
Guy asks about a savage and a Ruger cause he has rebates for Cabela's, and you start talking about a rifle that is triple the price, and literally nothing to do with what he asked about. He's looking to shoot some yotes. Not head off to Iraq as an independent contractor. That's pretty funny to me.@Imthatguywithquestions Care to elaborate what's so funny?
I made one damn comment. I was trying to steer him in a better direction with a better quality unit.The OP didn't ask about best on the market. Simply wanted to know which of the two rifles he specified would people recommend.
Then you got all fanboi in the thread.
He didn't ask for a better quality unit. He would probably appreciate reading comprehension skills for his question more at this point. 2 rifles are what he wants to know about. Not have you muddy the waters by adding a third or a 4th like the other comments about aero.I made one damn comment. I was trying to steer him in a better direction with a better quality unit.
The OP clearly stated he was buying the rifle at Cabela's (with funds only good there) so when did they start carrying LWRC rifles? Plus he would need a hell of a lot more gift cards to get into that LWRC price range.I made one damn comment. I was trying to steer him in a better direction with a better quality unit.
Can you get that at Cabela's using points and giftcards?You want the best, most accurate, reliable, and rugged AR's on the market... You only need to know 4 letters...
LWRC
Did you get the MPR or the AR556?I just got the Ruger. It is my first AR, so I have nothing to compare it to, but for an entry level rifle for $700. I am happy. So far about 300 rounds through it (80 Fed American Eagle and the rest hand loads) with out a problem. Accuracy is okay and improving with hand loads. So far just 55 and 62 gn bullets. It has an 8" twist so I am going to try a little heavier and see what it likes. The 62 gn do pretty well so may end up there.
AR 556Did you get the MPR or the AR556?
The MPR has a two stage trigger rather than the normal AR556's mil-specish trigger. It's a solid improvement and as good or better than the Schmid two stage triggers.Was unaware they switched the BCG. good to hear! Howwever everything I am seeing says the pull weight of the factory trigger is around 7.5 pounds. I was referring to the 5.56 not the MPR. As you said some springs will bring it down too. Either way. Still cheaper than an aero, especially if he has rebates at Cabela's and as for the proprietary, I'd double check the ejection port as well. I don't believe that is milspec. Again not a big deal of you don't plan on changing anything. From what I'm reading, the only milspec part on these rifles is the BCG now.