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Create a channel Learn moreI have a AXMC in 300WM that I screwed a 300 PRC barrel on and it works perfectly with the 300WM magazines. Can you imagine if Accuracy International told customers that they had to bend and modify magazines to get them to work with their chassis LOL?Eh not really. Try 338 lap mag!
ARC mags, now thats an entirely different thread LOL.The 300WM mag should work
Problem is it’s not an established platform with 1000’s of hours of sorting.
That means your gone have to do some tweaking be it a magazine adjustment or mag height adjustment.
I’m running a SAUM in my nuke with ARC mags, definitely not a sorted combination.
A slight mag adjustment and poof!
I have a rifle that feeds really nicely.
With the two pics I suggested I and many others with even more experience will see the issue and give a good recommendation to fix it.
A few years ago I had to adjust a genuine AICS mag to work in my 260 where the other two worked perfectly.
On the subject of mag feeding with the nuke, do any of you guys know of anyone who has tried AW mags in any ARC action?
I know that ARC say that their actions are not compatible but, I've not heard a reason why.
Common wisdom dictates that 2 lug bolts shouldn't feed well but, many seem to feed flawlessly once tuned.
I'd really like to know if anyone has experimented with AW mags in the Nuke action in particular.
Regards Barelstroker.
I believe so however, I've not seen an action with an AW cut in person, only in pics & vids &, I'm unsure as to the technical aspects of AW cuts.Isn't AW a wider cut?
YesIsn't AW a wider cut?
The AW does take a wider cut in the action, which is why Ted has said, at least a couple of times in the original thread, that it is possible to cut for AW but he does not like that it reduces the strength of the action and won’t do it.I believe so however, I've not seen an action with an AW cut in person, only in pics & vids &, I'm unsure as to the technical aspects of AW cuts.
I'm in the "kinda" final stages of choosing an action for my custom build. I've narrowed things down to 3 possible action choices. An ARC action, a TL3 or deviant elite or tactical. I'm building my rifle based around the BR cartridge family & have undertaken many months of info trawling on the what, why & how of that.Yes
The AW does take a wider cut in the action, which is why Ted has said, at least a couple of times in the original thread, that it is possible to cut for AW but he does not like that it reduces the strength of the action and won’t do it.
As far as two lug actions/bolts and AW mags, is is absolutely possible to do it and have zero feeding issues. But it takes a bit of mag tuning to do so for many and some are just not comfortable. I’ve got 10s of thousands of rounds through a Stiller TAC30AW, using nothing but AW mags, with no issue.
Both Deviant & bighorn TL3 have the AW cut option as do most other custom actions from what I can tell. The issue I have is trying to ensure that I won't finish up with a rifle that is nothing more than an expensive compromise.Is there any CRF action with a AW cut?
I’d wonder if you could get a round to slip under the extractor from the angle the AW mag presents from.
Sounds like an experienced smith to tune it all up is in order.Both Deviant & bighorn TL3 have the AW cut option as do most other custom actions from what I can tell. The issue I have is trying to ensure that I won't finish up with a rifle that is nothing more than an expensive compromise.
Possibly, although I'm trying to avoid that scenario. There are Smiths who can deal with the AW tuning but, that would require sending the rifle away which, is not preferred but not out of the question.Sounds like an experienced smith to tune it all up is in order.
Both Deviant & bighorn TL3 have the AW cut option as do most other custom actions from what I can tell. The issue I have is trying to ensure that I won't finish up with a rifle that is nothing more than an expensive compromise.
I don’t think that I’m actually qualified to advise you, but do agree with @Steel head:I'm in the "kinda" final stages of choosing an action for my custom build. I've narrowed things down to 3 possible action choices. An ARC action, a TL3 or deviant elite or tactical. I'm building my rifle based around the BR cartridge family & have undertaken many months of info trawling on the what, why & how of that.
Although feeding & extraction of the cartridges is my primary goal, I really like the idea of running AW mags because of the mag length & loading from the top in the dark & cramped confines of a vehicle at night. I can forego the AW aspect if I have to but, I'm trying hard to choose the action which will incorporate them if possible.
All 3 of the action types are CRF which, I've deemed as necessary with the short stumpy BR &, except the deviant have interchangeable bolt heads which is high on my list as well.
Even though I can't find a single example of anyone running or even experimenting with AW mags in an ARC action, I just can't bring myself to give up just yet. I know there is the option of ARC mags which, by all accounts I can find, would perform admirably, as well as the MDT BR mag, I'm still hanging on defiantly to an AW option for the ARC actions.
Since you were kind enough to answer my Q, I would very much appreciate your ideas & what action you would choose & why?
Kind regards..................Barelstroker.
Somebody like LRI or even Greg at Bugholes knows how to set up actions correctly for AW mags and the extra couple hundred you pay for that is worth the time and shipping. Just read a bit about all of the guys that saved a couple bucks just to fight their setup for months on end.Sounds like an experienced smith to tune it all up is in order.
I'm with you but, I'm a long way from those guys &, I'm not sure as to which gunsmiths are knowledgeable or willing to fuss about with such mods in my country. I've had phone conversations with a 1/2 dozen local gunsmiths about these subjects &, they all just try to convince me to do things the standard conventional way or, try to sell me something I don't want. Most gunsmiths here are booked out for months on end & don't need what they probably perceive as hassle jobs. In short, I've not yet had a conversation where the gunsmith seemed remotely interested.I don’t think that I’m actually qualified to advise you, but do agree with @Steel head:
Somebody like LRI or even Greg at Bugholes knows how to set up actions correctly for AW mags and the extra couple hundred you pay for that is worth the time and shipping. Just read a bit about all of the guys that saved a couple bucks just to fight their setup for months on end.
Just my opinion.
I have to admit, I have a soft spot for ARC actions.Got a pretty early Gen 1 Nuke on the original prebuy, and has been my main PRS rig since I received it. Running it with a Hawk Hill prefit, Barloc, original spring, amd Huber Trigger. Put it in a MPA Matrix and topped it with a ZCO this winter.
I'm about 1600 rounds on the action, with no major action failures.
Those stories, and there’s a lot of them are why I suggested hiring a Pro.I don’t think that I’m actually qualified to advise you, but do agree with @Steel head:
Somebody like LRI or even Greg at Bugholes knows how to set up actions correctly for AW mags and the extra couple hundred you pay for that is worth the time and shipping. Just read a bit about all of the guys that saved a couple bucks just to fight their setup for months on end.
Just my opinion.
It's not only the shorter mag length although that is preferable. If that were the only consideration, I'd go with the ARC mags & be done which, may be how It'll finish up but, it's much more about loading the mag in the action without removal.All that fuss for a shorter magazine...
Juice not worth the squeeze.
I have to admit, I have a soft spot for ARC actions.
What cartridge are running?
Yes, when you pull the trigger you have to recock it. If you dont then its already cocked so you dont feel the spring pressure building.Just got my new arc nucleus gen 2 rifle. It's still not complete so haven't put rounds through it yet. But I have done some dry firing. The bolt lift is super heavy after a trigger pull compared to just cycling the bolt without pulling the trigger. Sorry for the newb question but is this normal? Thanks!
Just got my new arc nucleus gen 2 rifle. It's still not complete so haven't put rounds through it yet. But I have done some dry firing. The bolt lift is super heavy after a trigger pull compared to just cycling the bolt without pulling the trigger. Sorry for the newb question but is this normal? Thanks!
I've had this with every new action I've owned (ARC, badger, defiance, Curtis, gap, mack bros, etc). At least heavier not necessarily super heavy.Just got my new arc nucleus gen 2 rifle. It's still not complete so haven't put rounds through it yet. But I have done some dry firing. The bolt lift is super heavy after a trigger pull compared to just cycling the bolt without pulling the trigger. Sorry for the newb question but is this normal? Thanks!
Yes, it is normal for that action and bolt.Just got my new arc nucleus gen 2 rifle. It's still not complete so haven't put rounds through it yet. But I have done some dry firing. The bolt lift is super heavy after a trigger pull compared to just cycling the bolt without pulling the trigger. Sorry for the newb question but is this normal? Thanks!
As with anything I get that's new I tend to "baby" it at first. Did some dry firing last night and was more aggressive with it. It's not that bad. Is 19lb.safe to avoid light primer strikes? They also have 21. Thanks!Hop on ARCs website and order the 19lb spring for the nucleus. It will help bolt lift dramatically
Is 19lb.safe to avoid light primer strikes? They also have 21. Thanks!
Thanks! Arc told me they routinely see guys run 19lb. Without issue. I think I'll try 21 and see what happens. If I have to switch back, no biggie.Insufficient pin protrusion and force, specifically from too light/worn springs, can have an impact on groups. It's not just about 'light strikes'.
Thanks! Arc told me they routinely see guys run 19lb. Without issue. I think I'll try 21 and see what happens. If I have to switch back, no biggie.
Thanks! Arc told me they routinely see guys run 19lb. Without issue. I think I'll try 21 and see what happens. If I have to switch back, no biggie.