Just got my new Rock River Arms A4 Varmint with a 20 inch barrel and need new glass for it. I've been roaming the forum looking for ideas and for my price range (500.00) or less. The SS and these new scopes from Wonder Optics don't seem too bad. Typically I stick with Leupold, Nikon, or Burris but money is a little tight at the moment. Nightforce, USO, etc... out of the question. Just bought a new house and the wife got downsized so I gota take it easy till things turn around. Does anyone have experience with both these scopes? Typically you get what you pay for with optics but some of the fellas on here really seem to like these two scopes. Just need a little push in one direction or the other. Thanks for your help. This is the best gun forum on the net.