Looking at building my first long action cartridge for ELR specifically, and have it pretty much narrowed down to 300 WSM and 300 Norma.

I'm leaning toward the WSM based on the facts that:

• There's Lapua Brass for $1 cheaper than Norma
• 65 gr of powder vs Norma's 80ish
• Abundance of excellent load data from the BR crowd, along with a lot of records having been set at 1k with them
• I can load lighter 200s with my current stock of h4350 if I want
• I can be a hipster and do something less mainstream, I guess?
• I can shoot 220 Hybrids with the same BC as a 230 Hybrid, or if I want more BC, I can step down to the 2800 FPS node, and shoot a 230 A-Tip

As far as I can tell the biggest arguments against the WSM is that it's not any good as a short action calibur, and isn't using the potential of the long action if you go that way, but... Does it actually lose anything to a 300 WM or PRC shooting 230s?



I understand that you can push a 245 hybrid from a PRC and Win Mag, but at that point, why bother with either when you can do it more comfortably from a 300 Norma?

Is anyone on snipershide shooting a WSM? By the looks of it, it's the red headed step child of the ELR possible cartridges.

Good afternoon, Members!

Below is an updated list of the remaining firearms I have for sale.

I've again added more firearms to the list. Two nice HK AR builds, a custom engraved S&W .44 and a S&W Air Lite 360PD .357, two lever action Brownings and a Citori, and a Christensen Arms 7mm hunting build.

Please reach out to me for photos and further information regarding any of the items.

UPPERS

Daniel Defense DD5V1 7.62
Complete Upper
16 Inch Barrell
Keymod
$1000


BOLT ACTION/LEVER ACTION

Christensen Arms Carbon One Extreme
7mm Rem Mag
6.5 LBS
26” carbon fiber match grade Shilen lined barrel
Adjustable Timmy Trigger
Proprietary carbon fiber stock w/graphite bedding block
Skeletonized bolt
Enhanced extractor
Limbsaver recoil pad
Swagger hunter 29 series bipod
SilencerCo suppressor adapter
Swarovski Z6i 5-30x50P HD Illuminated Plex Reticle w/ aluminum lens covers
MSRP: $5500 Build
$3500

Ed Brown Custom
300 WM
26” Barrel
Sub MOA guarantee
MSRP: $4000
$2500

Colt Cooper-Commissioned M2012 Bolt Action
.308 Win
22” custom fluted match grade threaded barrel
Cooper Arms repeater action with integral picatinny rail
3-lug bolt
Timney single stag adjustable trigger
Wood stock
Sub MOA guarantee
MSRP $2500
$1750

BROWNING ARMS MODEL 1886 HIGH GRADE LEVER ACTION
45-70 Govt
Limited Edition 1 of 3000
This is a High Grade Browning model 1886 Carbine, a reproduction of the original Winchester which was designed by John Browning. This modern reproduction has the same action and was produced as a limited edition with only 3,000 High Grade rifles. This would also make a nice hunting rifle that could take just about any game in North America, but would probably make a better safe queen in its high condition and given that only 3,000 were made. Last one sold at auction for $3775.
$3500

Browning Citori 725 Field O/U Shotgun
12G
3” and 2 3/4” shells
7.5 LBS
28” polished blue barrel
Oil Finish
Grade II/III checkered walnut
Engraved silver nitride low profile steel receiver
Chrome plated chamber
Ivory bead front sight
Mechanical gold plated alloy trigger
Inflex recoil pad
MSRP: $2500
$1750

Browning Arms Model 1885 .45-70 Govt
.45-70 Govt
28” octagon heavy barrel
Browning iron sights w/ adjustable peep sight
Checkered wood forend and buttstock
Curved metal butt plate
MSRP: $2500
$1500


TACTICAL

HK MR762 A1 w/ LRP Upgrades
.308/7.62
Leupold Mark 6 3-18x44MM 34MM Tube M5B2 FFB Tremor2 Reticle
SPUHR SP-4024 0MIL/0MOA 34MM Cantilever Mount
Atlas B10 V8 Bipod w/ Larue LT271 Picatinny Mount
HK G28 Adjustable Cheekpiece Buttstock
Advanced Armament Suppressor Adapter
(THIS IS A MUCH NICER BUILD THAN THE FACTORY MR762 LPR BUILD)
MSRP $8000 Build
$6000

HK MR556 A1
.223/5.56
Leupold Mark 6 1-6x20MM 34MM Tubę M6C1 CMR-W Illuminated Reticle
Larue Tactical LT104 SPR-1.5 34MM Cantilever Mount
Magpul RUG Vertical Grip
Steiner DBAL-I2 Dual Beam Laser
Surefire Scout KE2-A Weapon Light w/ Surefire Picatinny Mount
Advanced Armament Suppressor Adapter
MSRP $7000 Build
$5000

LMT Defense MWS
Multi Caliber Semi Auto
SilencerCo ASR suppressor adapter
Upgraded trigger pin set
MP 6.5 Creedmoor 1/9 SS, 20 inch barrel
MP 243 WIN 1/9 SS, 20 inch barrel
MP 338 Federal 1/10 SS, 20 inch barrel
MP 260 REM 1/9 SS, 20 inch barrel
MP 7.62 NATO 1/10 CB, 16.5 inch barrel
MSRP $6100
$3750

Precision Firearms Model PF-15B
Semi Auto
6.5 Grendel
24 inch barrel
Upgraded grip, trigger, bolt release and safety lever
SilencerCo ASR uppressor adapter
Tangodown bipod
MSRP $3075
$2000


HANDGUN

Smith & Wesson Air Lite Pro 360PD
.357 Magnum
1.875” barrel
Single/double action
J-Frame revolver
High strength scandium alloy frame
Titanium cylinder
One of the lightest .357 magnums ever made
MSRP $1150
$750

HK Mark 23 .45 Auto
.45 ACP
5.87” threaded barrel
Picatinny combat rail
Custom built match grade accuracy combat handgun
Operationally deployed by U.S. Special Operations Command
Polygonal rifling
MSRP: $2500
$1750

HK 45 Tactical
.45 ACP
Threaded barrel
Molded finger grooves
Light/accessory picatinny rail
Internal mechanical recoil reduction system
HK lock-out system
Ambidextrous magazine release
MSRP: $820
$600

Ed Brown Custom Executive Elite 1911
.45 ACP
5" Government model slide, single stack Government frame
25 LPI checkering on forestrap and mainspring housing
Matte finished slide for low glare
Traditional "square cut" cocking serrations on rear of slide
Fixed black rear sight, gold bead front sight
Serrated rear of slide
MSRP: $3299
$2500

Ed Brown Custom Kobra Carry 1911
.45 ACP
4.25" Commander model slide
Single stack Commander Bobtail frame
Exclusive Snakeskin treatment on forestrap, Bobtail housing and slide
Single-side, carry profile thumb safety
Fixed black rear sight, orange HDXR front sight
Stainless finish
MSRP: $3399
$2600

Smith & Wesson Model 29 Custom Engraved
.44 Magnum
4” barrel
N-Frame series - Large
Double-action
Blued finish
Smith & Wesson custom wood display box
MSRP: $1300
$1000

Gen 4 glock 19 FDE
little wear from when i carried it daily. No mods, no issues
Comes with 4 15round factory glock mags

$350 shipped to your FFL
Tired of it sitting in the safe

Has anyone taken ownership of one of the new MPA Vanquish Rimfire rifles? Planning to purchase one of these soon as I want a config that mimics my centerfire as closely as possible. Curious about the performance you’re getting as well as the balance with the Vanquish chassis.

For sale is a Manners Tikka T3 CTR Stock never used. $450 Shipped to the 48. Contact for rates outside the 48 no international shipping. USPS MO or Zelle Payment. First I will take it gets it.

A concerning read......particularly for big calibre shooters using brakes...

Selling my Triggertech Diamond trigger flat face.

Asking $225

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Other than their Mini Gun Can and the TAC-501 (which looks like the Rock McMillan design), you can get triggers and insulated rifle cases. Seems like a pretty populated commercial space already.

ZCO 4-20X50 FDE w/ MPCT2X reticle. Nearly perfect condition (you can barely see on the finish it was mounted in rings). All but new, very little use. Comes with all the factory goodies, box, etc.

Send me a PM. I will not contact you.

$3600 OBO

Myself and my friend who owns Western Whitetail out of Nebraska have been working on a package for a boy in SE Wyoming who had an accident last summer on his family’s farm and lost his right arm. We so far have got a tripod, bipod, and a scope from Vortex donated but we are running into trouble trying to find a left hand rifle in something like 6.5 creed that can take an ARCA rail to go into the tripod for him to continue to hunt with his dad and relearn how to shoot left handed. If anyone has any ideas of who we could reach out to that would be awesome. Seekins was on board but they only make RH actions and that’s just going to be too hard for him unfortunately. So far we have reached out to Gunwerks, Best of the West, Weatherby (they did give a shotgun for the dad). We also tried Bergara and have just not gotten any traction with anyone. Thanks for any help or ideas you have!

Manner TCS Max
This is brand new and to my understanding these haven’t hit the market yet. Never had an action in it.
REM 700 SA new Micro Chassis that allows your own bottom metal...
I am just selling this to help out a buddy. Get this one without the wait

$1550 or best offer shipped

Seekins Precision SP223 - Low Round Count - Under 150 Rounds

Caliber: .223 Wylde (accepts both .223 Remington & 5.56 NATO)

Feel free to message me with any questions you may have. I'm asking $1050 OBO shipped to your FFL via 2nd Day UPS insured. PayPal FF, Venmo, CashApp, or Zelle. I can meet in the Fort Benning, GA, area.

So the head of DHS head of ICE and Attorney General all think the assholes at the FBI are leaking information to violent transnational criminal organizations in CO and CA so they can avoid arrest. It might finally be the straw that broke the peons back- Would love to finally see them ot for their many and heinous crimes. Like 25- life in gen pop.

I have a very lightly used mpa 223 ba. Has area 419 brake. 223 wylde 1:7 twist. 26” comp contour barrel. Boring accurate at 300 yards. Never ahoot it anymore. Have only been shooting rimfire. Less than 300 down tube. These are built on curtis axiom actions. Sold

Is there a source for calculations to determine the optimal barrel length for a given cartridge?

I've searched the forums but I didn't find a source for the formulas.

I'm not smart enough to figure this out myself, but I think I am smart enough to understand the formulas if can find them.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

I would like to sell

Nightforce ATACR 4-16x50 Mil XT
Geisele mount - SOLD
Halo bubble level - SOLD
Trijicon RMR - SOLD

I would like to sell as a package $2,500

NF ATACR $2,200 shipped and insured

This was on a seekins sp10 that I don’t shoot much since I have been focusing on bolt guns. I have a buddy that has been housing me to sell him the seekins so I’m left with an extra optic.

Thanks
Landon

Hello again Hide-

I have a quick question that I was hoping someone could answer here about USMC service records. I'm inquiring on my mother's father side. Growing up I had always heard that he ended up in a wheelchair due to the Korean War but my mother's understanding of his service was that occurred after 20 years of USMC service and was somehow related to a mortar plate. Whelp- when we were talking about it tonight- the math suggests that there's much more to his story (he died before my mother got into HS) than even she understood and her mother (who passed away in the 90's) never talked about his service either but seemed to collect a widow's pension (what my mother called it at least) until then.

My only question is- should one be looking for a USMC service record (my best guess spanning 1938-1958 or there about) what would be the best approach to find out that information? Nothing that'd be all that important other than bringing some closure to my mother now on what her father did (reckon I opened some old & deep wounds when I mentioned the "math doesn't math" unless he was in both wars) given that he passed away when she was about 12.

Anyway- any tips/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

-LD

I don't have words to eloquently articulate my feelings, so I'll just say it like this - about 100 years ago some asshole with a funny mustache who enjoyed painting 100% called this.

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Sighted this rifle yesterday. 50 yards 5 shots at 1/2” dot. It took a bit of tapping to get it centered of course. May not be perfect yet, had a bit of gusty wind. It’s close enough for 50 yard headshots on squirrels.
We have a snow storm moving in so first outing will be a rabbit hunt later this week.
Ammo is Winchester Super Match.

Hi Guys,

I bought some new Lapua Brass to start reloading 6.5 CM.
According to my math:
Brass thickness: 0.015 x 2 + 264 = 294 - 0.003 = 291
so i just got my bushing (L.E WILSON) 291 and start preparing the brass, but when i get to bullet seating (Lapua Scenar 139), it's really tight and hard to push it down ( i'm using K&M Arbor press for the seating)
What is your experience with new 6.5 Lapua brass ?

Thanks for your help.

Hey guys, looking at specs on a few scopes and I'm noticing some things that seem out of place. Keep in mind I'm a novice at this so maybe there's a perfect explanation. Or maybe the specs are listed wrong? I don't know. What do you think?

GPO Centuri
3-18x44i 23.3 oz, 13.3", 90" of elevation, 30mm tube
2.5-15x50i 22.7 oz, 14.7", 110" of elevation, 30mm tube

Doesn't it seem wrong that the 3-18 would be over an inch shorter and only a half an ounce lighter? The strangest thing to me is why it would be so much shorter? Also, with the same tube diameter, why would the internal elevation be so different?

Not my deal but I thought @sirhrmechanic might enjoy a look.
Is this item for sale?

1. For Sale

Sale Price5600$Is this item for trade?

1. For Trade

Trade Value or Items Looking For$5600Location73507, Lawton, Oklahoma, United States
Just finished this matching pair of mountain howitzers. The wheels are 42”x2” wide. Overall length is 7’6” long x 48” wide, everything is made of oak. Barrel is 38” long and has a 2 1/4” bore made by Hern iron works Price is $5600 each. Located in Lawton Oklahoma. Delivery is available.

Photos are too large and wont load but if your interested pm me and I'll send you a link.

ARC 36mm rings - 150$

ARC Mbrace nv bridge - $125

Spuhr 5006 mount - $375