Not sure where to begin...but jump testing is something we all see a lot, and it typically the discussion goes back to bullet timing/barrel vibrations/etc...along those lines.

one thing that has always hung in my mind is "forgiving" bullets...how are bullets "forgiving" if the whole idea of load dev, is based upon timing up when the bullet exits the muzzle with some movement/vibration pattern...do forgiving bullets not make the barrel move/vibrate? (obviously not the case) do forgiving bullets not deflect the same when exiting a moving barrel? self correct? i dont have an answer, just questions...

is it possible that instead of barrel timing/muzzle exit, all seating depth needs to be is "good enough to hand off the bullet straight"? ie; Bullet A, gets a clean/straight hand off due to bullet shape and chamber spec relationship from .005" to .150" off...basically it gets a good hand off anywhere having the bearing surface out of the neck because that "forgiving" design allows it so...while maybe Bullet B, has less agreeable relationship with chamber design, and it doesnt get a clean/straight hand off from .005" to .020" off...gets straight from .025 to .050"...then its iffy again past that...again, just illustrative examples

all of this also assumes the reloading practices and chambers have the correct relationships...bad reloading practices or bad chamber specs/chamber jobs is another thing...basically sound reloading practices (consistent doesnt always equal sound...if youre making burs in brass, deforming bullets in seating, etc...even if you do it every time...its not good for results)

im sure anyone who has done much reloading/shooting knows certain bullets just shoot in a lot of barrels...its almost hard to get them not to...SMKs, Berger BT Target (better than hybrids in my experience)...Hybrids and Hornady ELDs are way better than most also

For actual shooting scenarios where this has shown up for me...i had a 223 barrel a while back...shooting 80 VLDs. I did powder tests, i did the Berger jump tests (the off the lands version i think from .020 to .120 or whatever it was)...and everything was basically 3/4" @ 100...some groups around 1/2", some closer to 1", but everything in a decent sample size...3/4", which is not a pretty looking group shooting small .224 bullets

Buddy of mine said "try them .005" off"...so i did, groups instantly cut in approx. 1/2...went to shooting a lot of ragged holes groups on the regular in the 1/4-5/8" range...and it did this for a pretty long time, until the lands wore away...it basically became a 3/4moa system again over time

at the same time...ive had A LOT of barrels over the years...easily north of 20 since 2015...where i shot forgiving bullets...SMKs, Berger BT target/juggernauts/hybrids...and in those barrels, i cant find a REAL seating depth difference...i can seat a Berger BT Target (what i use most the last few years), anywhere from .020 to .100 off, and every barrel will shoot them basically the same for relevant sample sizes...i cant shoot the difference day to day, but i know everyone on the internet shoots better so maybe they can lol

so my question goes back to...if jump (and powder charge) have to do with barrel timing/vibrations/muzzle movement...why do certain bullet designs seem to ignore this? barrel has still got to be moving

is it possible that the amount of jump is just a pass/fail scenario? in that it gets handed off clean/straight or it doesnt in relation to how the case/bullet reacts with the chamber geometry

of course, it could also be possible that shooting from a bipod/rear bag...the barrel vibration/movement variation is so small, i cant reliably/consistently see it in the results...and bullets being handed off crooked is all i can shoot accurately enough to see on target...maybe?

and yes...ive seen peoples small sample testing that show "clear winners"...i have stacks of my own also. I also have stacks of load dev where i shot "forgiving" bullets across 2-5 grain charge windows and .100" jump windows that didnt move significantly at all...possible can barrels be oscillating within a similar window at all times, and the variation seen on target is just how straight the bullet was handed off and leaves the bore?

ive also seen the barrel time info/papers/data....but i still hang up when that doesnt apply or show up on target...

curious to hear some other thoughts and experiences...lots of nuance and noise to weed out in these topics so hopefully i got my thoughts across clearly

id also like skip over any "i shot 5 rounds of A and 5 rounds of B, and A was .1" smaller so A will always be better..." ...we all know how that would hold up lol

Side Note: outside of the "unforgiving" VLD design in that 223 that showed a clear difference...i dont see the large shifts/changes a lot of people seem to see from small jump variations, or powder for that matter...its not like .020 is 1/3moa for 10 shots, and .030 is 1.25moa for 10 shots...if i do see large variations, when retested, they dont hold up, typically attributed to an outlier or i shanked one...my variations are always very small, with lots of overlap, and larger samples blend the differences together...simply put, my barrels/rifles dont consistently (aka the vast majority of the time) shoot better than 1/2" or worse than 3/4" for large sample sizes...no matter what i change in my loads with the "forgiving" bullets (within reason, using good components and known reliable combos)...yes yes, ive shot a ton of ragged hole groups like everyone else, but theyre small outliers, not the overall average everyday

Xlr envy pro long night vision mount- $95

Palmetto state armory forend- $100
35mm leupold mark AR IMS 1 price mount BNIB- $300

Buffer and buffer spring- $25

MDT ACC m-lok data card- $40

Spy point link S dark solar trail cam, out of package but never used- $125

Reconyx hyperfire 2 trail cam, out of package but never used- $300

Hornady match grade 6.5-284 Norma die set some surface rust will be cleaned up before shipped-$40

RCBS 7mm Rem Mag die set- $30

Wilson 6xc micrometer seating due- $75

Redding 6.5-284norma full length sizing die- $60

Redding 6xc type s bushing style full sizing die- $75

MDT .224 Valkyrie polymer 10rnd mag out of package but never used- $35

Clearing up some room for more shit! You guys should know the drill here….. no low ballers! Payment via PayPal f&f. Or Venmo.

Trades? Hawkins 34mm 1.0” heavy duty tactical rings. That’s the top of the list. But hit me up if you have something else in mind?

First off is a gently used(only mounted) never fired arken sh-4 gen II 4-16x50 moa rifle scope. Includes box,sunshade,a vortex defender front objective cover, and throw lever. 260.00

Second is a rigid precision 20moa 34mm mount. 55.00

Badger ordnance 30mm m40a3 rings. Coated and painted. Sold!

Like to sell these together… aics 10 round magazines. One accurate mag,one mdt poly/metal. Sold!

Oakley gauge 8 shades. Authentic! Worn twice. Sold!

Rayban tortoise shell , yes they’re real! Sold!

She infers she is resigning from burnout - I think more likely she is being promoted within the WEF.

Who actually believes this. ?


Reference

New Stag bolt gun. 60° prototype aiming for Tactical hunter crowd. They told me these prototypes are aluminum actions but they are working with magnesium also. Price point to be between $1500-$2000 MSRP. Shooting for summer launch with complete rifles first then components later. I liked this action better than the new Aero offering. Chassis felt very good and very similar to a Bravo.

Updated 1/19

Hi everyone,

Selling some of my gear as I am getting out of the hobby. Most of it pretty much brand new. Will ship at buyers expense unless discussed. Take PP, Venmo, Zelle, etc. Located in Hammock Beach/St Augustine, FL. Local pickup welcome.

- Bergara Premier Ridgeback 6mm Creedmoor, Unknown Munitions full ARCA rail, APW Raptor Break, extra mags, 300 rounds total - $1700

- Brinks Excursion 22lr case - 250rds + 4 AICS mags - $100

- Sig Sauer Kilo 1400BDX - $130


Pics:

RRS Rail, $75
Aluminum Rail $50
Sc-Arc $100, missing pin
Btc-pro $60

All prices shipped
PayPal F and F

BT-65-NC CAL bipod. New in package. 235 Shipped.Sold
BT-10 with ADM 17. Used 200 Shipped
FT 70 raider spiked feet. New in package. 65 shipped Sold

Payment by PPff, Venmo, Zelle.

I have over 5000 of these bad boys. All same lot. Selling for 170 per 500. Not willing to sell less than 500 at a time. Thank you!

The pictures of serial killers on her walls should have been a clue:


The knife I used is in the sink — the cut on his neck is pretty brutal; when I put it in his neck he rolled over," Graves explained.

500 105 Hybrid $300 shipped
I know it’s kinda high but I didn’t pay regular price either.

Tikka T3X
Bartline 1:7
26"
6mm creedmor
75 rounds on the barrel
Additional 20" .308 factory barrel
KRG Bravo enclosed forend
NF 20 moa rail
Two additional fluted bolts
GM trigger spring
Gm bolt handle and factory
Asking 2k flexable
Pics available upon request

(Muzzle break and 419 rail not included)

Zero Compromise 4-20x50 with mpct3 reticle.
$3000 shipped. Insurance can be added if paid for.
Perfect glass, no problems.
Comes with spuhr mount. Will not split.

Doug from Camera Land's Day 1 SHOT Show Report

SHOT Show Day 1 was a very busy day. I actually started yesterday with a Monday meeting with Kowa Optics. At this time Kowa is only revealing that we will see some new editions before the year is out. They have been on top of getting their new Alpha quality TSN-99 Series into us and they are extremely well reviewed.

A little out of the ordinary way for me to start SHOT Show this year, I met Rod of Astra Optix outside the main hall to discuss their HBX 1600B 10x42 Rangefinder Binocular. We spoke before Thanksgiving and Rod sent his HBX 1600B 10x42 Rangefinder Binocular into us to check out. It's a 10x42 1760 Yard LCD Laser Rangefinder Binocular. Nothing fancy, however, it does have Angle mode, Archery mode, Ballistic mode and Scan mode. It grabbed our interest because optically it was very pleasing and it's only $499.99. There's absolutely a place for a good optical quality 10x42 Rangefinding binocular that's only $499.99. It would great to meet with them and have a discussion and I believe we will be bringing these in. Stay tuned for more details.

I entered the show and headed over to a meeting with Athlon. Great to see my friend and rep Drake. After catching up he showed me the new HERAS SPR Riflescopes and their new Talos BTR Gen 2 Riflescopes . The Outdoor Wire was nice enough to post this Athlons Twenty-Four New Products Revealed article, which makes my writing easier. In my opinion Athlon is doing everything right to become a top optics brand. Every year Athlon refines and grows, without trying too much at once. They are impressive in the way they have developed as a company, listened to customer suggestions and refined their customer service.

Athlons new line of HERAS SPR Riflescopes pushes the envelope even further with features previously unheard of at this price point. The HERAS SPR offerings are incredibly versatile and cover a wide range of applications suitable to hunters, small-bore shooters, and air-gunners alike. This robust line is designed to handle the forward impulse of springer air guns, PCP and recoil from magnum centerfire rifles.

The Talos BTR Gen 2 Riflescopes
"It was hard to imagine a first focal plane rifle scope at under $400, but the first generation Talos BTR proved it could be done. The Talos BTR GEN2 builds on that reputation with improved turrets and the addition of a true precision zero stop. All while maintaining repeatable tracking and the affordable price! Fully Multi-Coated lenses and illuminated etched reticles enable the Talos BTR GEN2 to perform in a wide range of conditions."

Next I went to over to see Burris. To say I was blown away at what they showed me would be an understatement. I realize it's day 1 but I'm thinking the "Product of SHOT Show 2023" will be their new Veracity™ PH Riflescope 4-20x50mm. Featuring the new Burris PĒK (Programable Elevation Knob) System the Veracity PH takes speed and precision to the highest level. The Wind MOA was designed specifically for the Veracity PH and allows shooters to easily, dial to distance, compensate for wind, or quickly holdover.
Clean, simple FFP reticle with 1-MOA tick marks extending to 12 MOA on each side.
When crosshairs are set for zero at 100 yards each line on the lower vertical crosshair will be calibrated for 200, 300 and 400 yards respectively for the average big game caliber. Use the BurrisConnect app for an accurate reticle map for your prefered cartridge.
Progressively Thick Crosshairs (PTC) are very fine in the center and progressively thicker away from the center, for ultra-fast target engagement in low light at close ranges; effective at any magnification
Works seamlessly with the PĒK (Prgramable elevaltion knob) system and wind value in the Veracity PH heads up display. At $999.99 this scope is a winner. All these features in a standard designed riflescope (No odd bumps or whatnot in the design).

As if this introduction wouldn't have been enough next I checked out their new Signature LRF 10x42 Rangefiner Binocular (yes, LED with brightness control) 5 - 2600 yard range and priced below what I expected at only $999.99.

Just when I thought I couldn't be more impressed I was told about (They did not have one here) the Summer 2023 release of their coming Signature HD 15x56, Made in Japan binocular priced at only $799.99.

Burris, way to make Day 1 exciting, thank you.

As many of you know we went big halfway through last year with Revic Optics and Tripods. It was great meeting with them as I have been speaking with my rep for months and it was great to finally meet him. Their Tripods are excellent and so worth you taking a moment to investigate. We discussed their Acura Series Spotting Scopes with Reticle Eyepiece. My buddy said he really likes that the eyepiece is both MIL and MOS and not intrusive. The optical quality is superior to most. If you're not familiar with Revic Spotters you should be. Take a moment and check into them.

Next stop was at Pulsar to discuss what was exciting and new. I was not disappointed.

DXP50 - The world’s first multispectral hunting riflescope, the Thermion Duo combines the high-tech thermal imaging Pulsar is known for with the clarity and vividness of a full-color daytime optic.
Designed primarily for hunting, the Thermion Duo DXP50 has a detection range of 1800 yards. This highly versatile multispectral optic can defeat animal camouflage and fog on thermal mode and judge a prey’s trophy qualities in daylight with its full color mode. With its picture-in-picture feature, a hunter can simultaneously find an animal through dense fog or foliage with its 640x480 high-sensitivity thermal sensor while observing the area around it in full color 4k HD.
The Thermion Duo DXP50 boasts the wide range of practical features Pulsar products are known for, including one-shot freeze zeroing, 1024x768 photo and video recording with audio, Wi-Fi integration with the Stream Vision 2 app, and advanced image processing.

LRF XG50 which is the 1st thermal imaging riflescope with classic design and built in LRF. A standard 6ft tall object can be detected up to 2500 yards away in complete darkness. 5 individual shooting profiles and 50 zeroing distances.

Then I was shown the new LRF XL50 Thermal Rangefinder Binoculars. Holy Crap. This thing is amazing. Variable 2.5-20x magnification range, classic binocular design, built in photo and video recorder.

I was looking forward to my next meeting at Swarovski. I got to catch up with my buddies for a bit and then we discussed what's been going on with their new computer system and the issues with folks getting in contact. I was informed the best way to reach Swarovski is through your computer, not by calling.
To Request Service or Parts visit myservice.swarovski.com Remember to enter as much detail about your optic as possible to help them help you. Model, serial # who you are, your phone # and e-mail and they will get back with you. Please be patient while they settle into this upgraded computer system, which in the long run will make things better than ever.

Last years "Best of Show" IMO was the Meopta MeoSport R 3-15x50 RD SFP-4C Riflescope. Apparently many of you agree as we sold an insane amount of these scopes in the past year. There will be more additions later this year similar to this scope, but nothing to report on this quite yet. Stay tuned.
Meopta Introduced the MeoSight IV Red Dot Sight - This new red dot reflex sight is Meopta’s smallest, weighing just 1.2 ounces. Its ultra-low profile makes the MeoSight IV ideal for handguns. It can also be mounted to a primary riflescope for fast and accurate close-quarter target acquisition or mounted directly to an accessory rail.

Remember all week we are running a SHOT Show Week Sale so if it's not marked down already call, 516-217-1000, and we will hook you up.

If there is anything you're looking for please give us a call at 516-217-1000. It is always our pleasure to speak with you. Always give a call to discuss options and what would be best for your needs.

13,000 + steps later I arrived at the Gelato Shop and got a double scoop of Birthday Cake and ahhhhhh did that make my sore throat feel better.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. More tomorrow, Day 2. Have a great day & please follow us on Instagram at gr8fuldoug_

Thank you for your continued support.
If there is anything else that we can assist you with please let us know.

Camera Land
720 Old Bethpage Road
Old Bethpage, NY 11804
516-217-1000
Please visit our web site @ www.cameralandny.com

I have a couple triggertech diamond rem700 right hand flat shoe triggers I wanna sell. All of them are in great condition don’t have the boxes. These will be shipped and insured for the amount you send
$240

NXS 3.5-15x50, with badger ordinance rings and a scope level.

I took this on a trade recently, scope is in great shape, rings are in great shape, reticle is illuminated. Glass is beautiful. I wish I could hold onto this but Ive just found out that an oil leak on my truck is going to be significantly more expensive than I was hoping. So last in first out.

Scope + rings + level = $1200 shipped lower 48.

THE SITE HAS A 48 HOUR BUMP RULE. DO NOT BUMP IT AGAIN UNTIL THEN OR POST WILL BE DELETED AND YOU WILL BE BANNED.

.

I got a TON OF VARGET.
8 lb jugs
1 lb jugs.
Located in socal.
50 bucks a lb.
I can not ship.

SOLD!!! Used ambidextrous xlr envy pro chassis with the tr2 stock and the newer c6 stock. Weights,
Bag rider, timer, thumbrest, etc…minor surface scratches and typical wear from use.
1400 plus shipping

Or

Will also sell without the c6
Buttstock for 1150

I just got a NIB matrix that I thought I was going to use, however, I just don't care for the feel of it. I will continue with my JAE 700's.....LOL This matrix comes with all the stock accessories included, nothing extra. It has an awesome paint job. Looking to get $1200 shipped....thanks for looking.............. Jason 530-990-0539

For sale is a like new Impact Precision Rifle 6GTBA spun up by Impact using a Stuteville M24 1:7.5 Black Barrel and a 737R. Action and barrel has seen ~600rounds.
Gen 3 muzzle break

Stock choices
Manners TCS
Stock is a Carbon Fiber with 60% Black, Added full set of weights , the screw things for quick adjustment of check pad
A WIEBAD check pad has a sikes clutch on left side and short action two round holder on the right

Or with a

Brand New Stock
Foundation Genesis 2 (MG2) inlet for Impact 737R ($1180 MG2 w/ $200 Limited Black Finish)
360 precision Full Length Arca Rail ($110) Included
Hawkins Precision M5 DBM ($170) Included

Rifle shown stock of choice $3750 Shipped
Barreled action no trigger $2400 shipped
Either stock $1350 +shipping

Harris HBMR-S Bipod with Area 419 ARCA mount
Atlas V8 with Area 419 ARCA mount.
Harris- $200 shipped
Atlas - $300 shipped

Trigger tech diamond straight $230 shipped

The gun in the foundation with full weights weighs 16.7 LBS
THE MANNERS just the stock weighs 6.6LBS

Venmo and PayPal only.

Doug from Camera Land's Day 1 SHOT Show Report

SHOT Show Day 1 was a very busy day. I actually started yesterday with a Monday meeting with Kowa Optics. At this time Kowa is only revealing that we will see some new editions before the year is out. They have been on top of getting their new Alpha quality TSN-99 Series into us and they are extremely well reviewed.

A little out of the ordinary way for me to start SHOT Show this year, I met Rod of Astra Optix outside the main hall to discuss their HBX 1600B 10x42 Rangefinder Binocular. We spoke before Thanksgiving and Rod sent his HBX 1600B 10x42 Rangefinder Binocular into us to check out. It's a 10x42 1760 Yard LCD Laser Rangefinder Binocular. Nothing fancy, however, it does have Angle mode, Archery mode, Ballistic mode and Scan mode. It grabbed our interest because optically it was very pleasing and it's only $499.99. There's absolutely a place for a good optical quality 10x42 Rangefinding binocular that's only $499.99. It would great to meet with them and have a discussion and I believe we will be bringing these in. Stay tuned for more details.

I entered the show and headed over to a meeting with Athlon. Great to see my friend and rep Drake. After catching up he showed me the new HERAS SPR Riflescopes and their new Talos BTR Gen 2 Riflescopes . The Outdoor Wire was nice enough to post this Athlons Twenty-Four New Products Revealed article, which makes my writing easier. In my opinion Athlon is doing everything right to become a top optics brand. Every year Athlon refines and grows, without trying too much at once. They are impressive in the way they have developed as a company, listened to customer suggestions and refined their customer service.

Athlons new line of HERAS SPR Riflescopes pushes the envelope even further with features previously unheard of at this price point. The HERAS SPR offerings are incredibly versatile and cover a wide range of applications suitable to hunters, small-bore shooters, and air-gunners alike. This robust line is designed to handle the forward impulse of springer air guns, PCP and recoil from magnum centerfire rifles.

The Talos BTR Gen 2 Riflescopes
"It was hard to imagine a first focal plane rifle scope at under $400, but the first generation Talos BTR proved it could be done. The Talos BTR GEN2 builds on that reputation with improved turrets and the addition of a true precision zero stop. All while maintaining repeatable tracking and the affordable price! Fully Multi-Coated lenses and illuminated etched reticles enable the Talos BTR GEN2 to perform in a wide range of conditions."

Next I went to over to see Burris. To say I was blown away at what they showed me would be an understatement. I realize it's day 1 but I'm thinking the "Product of SHOT Show 2023" will be their new Veracity™ PH Riflescope 4-20x50mm. Featuring the new Burris PĒK (Programable Elevation Knob) System the Veracity PH takes speed and precision to the highest level. The Wind MOA was designed specifically for the Veracity PH and allows shooters to easily, dial to distance, compensate for wind, or quickly holdover.
Clean, simple FFP reticle with 1-MOA tick marks extending to 12 MOA on each side.
When crosshairs are set for zero at 100 yards each line on the lower vertical crosshair will be calibrated for 200, 300 and 400 yards respectively for the average big game caliber. Use the BurrisConnect app for an accurate reticle map for your prefered cartridge.
Progressively Thick Crosshairs (PTC) are very fine in the center and progressively thicker away from the center, for ultra-fast target engagement in low light at close ranges; effective at any magnification
Works seamlessly with the PĒK (Prgramable elevaltion knob) system and wind value in the Veracity PH heads up display. At $999.99 this scope is a winner. All these features in a standard designed riflescope (No odd bumps or whatnot in the design).

As if this introduction wouldn't have been enough next I checked out their new Signature LRF 10x42 Rangefiner Binocular (yes, LED with brightness control) 5 - 2600 yard range and priced below what I expected at only $999.99.

Just when I thought I couldn't be more impressed I was told about (They did not have one here) the Summer 2023 release of their coming Signature HD 15x56, Made in Japan binocular priced at only $799.99.

Burris, way to make Day 1 exciting, thank you.

As many of you know we went big halfway through last year with Revic Optics and Tripods. It was great meeting with them as I have been speaking with my rep for months and it was great to finally meet him. Their Tripods are excellent and so worth you taking a moment to investigate. We discussed their Acura Series Spotting Scopes with Reticle Eyepiece. My buddy said he really likes that the eyepiece is both MIL and MOS and not intrusive. The optical quality is superior to most. If you're not familiar with Revic Spotters you should be. Take a moment and check into them.

Next stop was at Pulsar to discuss what was exciting and new. I was not disappointed.

DXP50 - The world’s first multispectral hunting riflescope, the Thermion Duo combines the high-tech thermal imaging Pulsar is known for with the clarity and vividness of a full-color daytime optic.
Designed primarily for hunting, the Thermion Duo DXP50 has a detection range of 1800 yards. This highly versatile multispectral optic can defeat animal camouflage and fog on thermal mode and judge a prey’s trophy qualities in daylight with its full color mode. With its picture-in-picture feature, a hunter can simultaneously find an animal through dense fog or foliage with its 640x480 high-sensitivity thermal sensor while observing the area around it in full color 4k HD.
The Thermion Duo DXP50 boasts the wide range of practical features Pulsar products are known for, including one-shot freeze zeroing, 1024x768 photo and video recording with audio, Wi-Fi integration with the Stream Vision 2 app, and advanced image processing.

LRF XG50 which is the 1st thermal imaging riflescope with classic design and built in LRF. A standard 6ft tall object can be detected up to 2500 yards away in complete darkness. 5 individual shooting profiles and 50 zeroing distances.

Then I was shown the new LRF XL50 Thermal Rangefinder Binoculars. Holy Crap. This thing is amazing. Variable 2.5-20x magnification range, classic binocular design, built in photo and video recorder.

I was looking forward to my next meeting at Swarovski. I got to catch up with my buddies for a bit and then we discussed what's been going on with their new computer system and the issues with folks getting in contact. I was informed the best way to reach Swarovski is through your computer, not by calling.
To Request Service or Parts visit myservice.swarovski.com Remember to enter as much detail about your optic as possible to help them help you. Model, serial # who you are, your phone # and e-mail and they will get back with you. Please be patient while they settle into this upgraded computer system, which in the long run will make things better than ever.

Last years "Best of Show" IMO was the Meopta MeoSport R 3-15x50 RD SFP-4C Riflescope. Apparently many of you agree as we sold an insane amount of these scopes in the past year. There will be more additions later this year similar to this scope, but nothing to report on this quite yet. Stay tuned.
Meopta Introduced the MeoSight IV Red Dot Sight - This new red dot reflex sight is Meopta’s smallest, weighing just 1.2 ounces. Its ultra-low profile makes the MeoSight IV ideal for handguns. It can also be mounted to a primary riflescope for fast and accurate close-quarter target acquisition or mounted directly to an accessory rail.

Remember all week we are running a SHOT Show Week Sale so if it's not marked down already call, 516-217-1000, and we will hook you up.

If there is anything you're looking for please give us a call at 516-217-1000. It is always our pleasure to speak with you. Always give a call to discuss options and what would be best for your needs.

13,000 + steps later I arrived at the Gelato Shop and got a double scoop of Birthday Cake and ahhhhhh did that make my sore throat feel better.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. More tomorrow, Day 2. Have a great day & please follow us on Instagram at gr8fuldoug_

Thank you for your continued support.
If there is anything else that we can assist you with please let us know.

Camera Land
720 Old Bethpage Road
Old Bethpage, NY 11804
516-217-1000
Please visit our web site @ www.cameralandny.com

I am wanting to have a new 308 built to put on a Zermatt origin action, Kreiger Barrel, McMillan A5 stock. I need a reputable gunsmith who will help me get this rifle to be super accurate to hunt with and to bench shoot out to a 1000 yards. I've been told Long Rifles Inc is good, but is there someone else out there that's better? What are your experiences with Long Rifles Inc ?

I just wanted to know……