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Dillon 650 Setup Confirmation/Advice

Thanks for all the follow up advice everyone. I’ll probably grab a set of primer pocket gauges I like tools to rule out uncertainty.

I’m still waiting on a few parts. Dillon should be dropping the new decapping die this month. From what I understand that’s the fw design that everyone really likes that they don’t make now. I want to use that on my trim die set up.

I like the idea of sorting similar brass to start and mixing in some known randos and checking things as I go. That’s the advice I’m after forsure.

I’ll get the sage it and just be careful.

I could see automating the 650 for pistol but would probably get a new press if ever to that point in my rifle loading. I shoot pcc alot in pcsl matches so 9mm still my main jam for now. But have been shooting some long range more lately and have been disappointed in the velocity spreads I’m seeing.
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Ukraine war Bullshit.

I’ve never denied billions of aid have been sent. You said trillions.

Most of the value is accounted for weapons we already made in the 1980s and 1990s though, not true high-value current production systems. Any profits made on those demil scheduled munitions was made in the 1980s and 1990s defense budgets.

You want to see MIC profits that are actually current, look at FMS to Japan, Australia, UK, Germany, Finland, Saudi Arabia, and other nations who are at the top of the industrialized nation list with large militaries and regional rivals to justify them.

Ukraine is a weak side-show way down the line in terms of monetary figures, and the Europeans are sending a ton of weapons value to Ukraine, much of it outdated as well, already bought decades ago. The old school F-16As from MSIP partner nations is a perfect example of that. The US hasn’t had any profit potential from those in generations.

House Budget Proposal to remove Tax on Suppressors but not remove it from the NFA

don't use them-no need. but for guys that see a benefit and need,there is no way that tying up ownership in surveillance,tax $ and bureaucracy is consistent with 2A in any way at all. just more deep state abuse of long standing.
this BS started as an excuse to prevent "hit men" for being stealthy.

XM7 worries from the field.

SIG keeps winning Army contracts because they keep delivering exactly what the Army asks for. Nothing really sinister about it.

Competition would win if they did the same thing, but aren't.

Jason St. John came from 3rd Ranger Battalion and the Army Marksmanship Unit. He, Robby Johnson, and Jared Van Aalst were some killing muldoons with sniper rifles. The three also served on the Army Rifle Team, Pistol Team, and Combat shooting teams.

The XM7 has some problems. I'm curious to see if it ever gets out of experimental stage. Army just killed M10 Bradley and a number of more expensive programs.
Seeing how poorly NGSW has been managed, I think it’s more than fair to say just about every dollar on the program has been a waste of resources that could have gone to things that actually produce results, and will produce results in the future.

I agree that all the contenders were handed a bit of a turd when the requirement was to get a .277” 135gr EPR to penetrate some type of armor at 600m. That drove the back-end baseline carbine or rifle to be a heavy beast with excess pressure built into the system, with a significantly-reduced basic load.

7.62x51 type basic load equals no ability to maintain fire even on the offense, as demonstrated during the observed live-fire events that any of us have been talking about since we saw the cartridge configuration.

At this stage, I would rather see almost every dime of this program go to JSF, Long Range Fires, EW, UAS, and just do a new Block upgrade M4A1 with anodized FDE and a new intermediate DM cartridge to augment/replace 7.62x51, increasing the overall round count among Squads and Platoons for equal or better effects.

Since we have already seen UAS employed in COIN, Infantry will need counter-UAS systems at the Platoon and Squad level. That’s where we are seeing a void, though there are some new large scattergun systems being RFP’d and competed last I saw.

XM7 is proof Big Army can’t be trusted to solicit or manage a small arms program.

Apparent over pressure from mild load

Turns out these surplus primers I have been using were very hot. Who would have thought bottle cap primers made in India would be crap :ROFLMAO:
Hmmm??? I know if it was in India or Pakistan that a video was posted a couple months ago with workers squatting on the floor processing 9mm cases and the cases being filled with powder by simply hand dropping and simply leveling the powder off at the case mouths. . . no weighing of any kind. And the boxes that the cartridges put into had words in English. Seeing and hearing such things from that part of the world leaves me not trusting anything like that due to apparently little, if any, quality control. :eek: 😵‍💫

PS: I found the YouTube and here's a pic:
9mm powder fill in the East.jpg

9mm powder fill in the East 2.jpg

Ukraine war Bullshit.

resp re #1848
so the billions spent on containing them (which you have denied) is well worth "trading" with entities that have allowed our (yes neocon is the commonly used and understood term) neocons to profit from in a scheme where we pay for all the gear,personnel and bases to keep them safe
and the money goes to our def co elites and stock holders. add in the payments which find their way into the coffers of congress,our def bureaucracy and yes many of our retired 08s and higher. great deal for the tax payer. we get to spend over there instead of here on people that hate us and that we have bailed out 3Xs in the 20th.
another qualification for being a neocon is getting into these juvenile dick measuring contests with the Russians and now the Chinese. you all keep blathering about the Russians and Chinese are stupid have shitty nucs and missiles and ours are just the cat's meow. great! we can kill 300 or 400 mil of them and they can only kill 100mil of us. Germans killed Russians at about 3 to 1 in ww2. think the Japs killed at about that rate in China from '37 on. how did that work out for them in '45? for sure we don't need to spend any money in Maui,FL,So.Car,LA when we can better use it to defend our friends in Europe and help Z by a few mansions. not saying that we don't need overwhelming deterrence for DEFENSE of America,which i am not sure we have as of Clinto & Obiden et al. another neocon qualification is having no fucking clue what being broke and 30+ tril in debt means. can always jack up the tax slaves for more by making up a new boogey man.
at least 1 thing you are right about is the treason of 90% of congress,quite a few our recent presidents,the universities and many corp elites. and,the infiltration and subversion of our society at multiple levels by the Russians and now the Chinese and ongoing by the Isralis. BTW,despite what you might think,that is old news which has never been,nor will it ever be,addressed. common knowledge for anyone that can read and think for themselves.

SOLD M44 Mosin carbine + ammo price drop 5 20

selling the good ol Mosin Nagant . plus 160 rounds of 54r
I'm not going to lie the barrel is heavily pitted however there is still some semblance of riffling
the rifle is rust free , I did a full cleaning and oiling on it so its ready to shoot
I can provide more detailed photos upon request


for everything: 280$

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XM7 worries from the field.

Not in a real war. A war where you have to worry about near peer or heavily armored combatants such as the very purpose of this rifle. In such battles very little casualties will be produced by service rifles. It's also why you need organic HE down to the squad/platoon level. Special operations becomes less important and prevelent in a near peer.
In LSCO, I don’t see US Infantry anywhere near the areas of temporary contest.

In COIN, Infantry are critical when leveraged correctly with Intelligence, SOF, and limited Air assets and their support. Then precision and limited collateral are key.

Because of our superiority in combined arms forces at levels so far away from Infantry, our adversaries will do everything in their power to initiate more destabilizing asymmetric warfare operations that make more COIN operations likely, so we need to think about Infantry that way, not how what we’re seeing happen in Ukraine between under-equipped Russians and Ukrainians who have no modern air assets at-scale.

The XM7 is neither relevant in LSCO nor COIN, so the Army managed to get it as wrong as possible, without going to a bolt gun. They need to be thinking more lightweight, more precision, and more training culture built into units at the Battalion, Company, and Platoon levels.

The XM250 seemed interesting until the suppressed feedback of course made its way around the attempts at censorship, and it turned out to be a POS too.