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The only real issue I’ve had so far is feeding issues with the Hawkins magazine when I’ve stuck it in my Peak 44 stock. The bullet nose is up, but the rear is down too far for the bolt to pick up the next round. I’ve might have to adjust the feed lips a bit. Here’s a picture of what’s happening. I need to see what Hawkins recommends as a fix. Have any of you had this issue?

PM incoming. I can use this.

Gay frogs did Sandy Hook.

I should up date this from time to time. I’ve had it out to the range twice; 90 rounds down the tube so far. It’s sitting in my weighted out KRG-B stock right now for load development. I haven’t quite found my hunting load for it yet, but it’s definitely capable of surprising speed with R26. I’m getting no pressure signs and up to 2800 fps with a 210ABLR, up to 2900 with a 200 Accubond, and just over 2900 with a 180 Accubond and R16; H4831SC has been almost 100 fps slower than R26 with the heavier bullets. The best three shot groups I’ve gotten have been 3/4 to 1” with the 180 and 200 AB, but I need to load above and below the best ones to see how sensitive they are. ES’s and SD’s have been good with several SD’s in the single digits; yes, I’m aware a three shot SD of 4 is nothing other than showing the possibility of a decent load that needs further range time to prove its worth. The 210 ABLR’S have been the most frustrating with them often grouping two close together and one an inch or more away. They take after the RDF’s with a random flyer.

The only thing I’m a little frustrated with is the fact that I have to jump every bullet farther than I would like to so the rounds are short enough to fit in the magazine. I can’t load the ABLR’s any closer than .09” off and the Accubonds .05” off. I just loaded some 200 Partitions and they had to be .04” off. The only bullet I have on hand that could actually be loaded close and still fit in the magazine is the old Hornady 190 BT Interlocks. I’m about to do a seating test with the Accubonds between .05 and .10 off; hopefully I can find a length they like that will tighten the groups or at least make them consistently 3/4” or better.

The barrel ended up weighing 2# 6 oz. With the Peak 44 stock and a NF 2.5-10x42 on the rail it weighs in at 7# 9 oz. I plan to remove the picatinny rail from the Origin and use lightweight rings attached to the action which should save a few oz. With my Nomad Ti XC and 4 rounds it should be around 8.25# which should be handy for hunting although it’s a bit nose heavy. Here’s a couple pictures.

Ex E6 said:

Not that I was aware of . ANY SD in single digits is what I'd consider a WIN . Loads that are in single digit SD's will in theory group together better ,as obviously velocity dictates POI . Lessen the charge and impact becomes lower ,increase it climbs .

ALL depending upon bullet aerodynamics and distance to impact . Loads for LR shooting at 100 yd.-300 yd. makes little difference but at a K yd. is where it really shows up .

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Just before I started precision reloading I read that it was difficult to get .308 cartridges into single digit SD's, especially compared to the likes of 6ppc's or Dasher's. But, I was determined to see just how low I could get them, especially using a factory gun like an RPR (I think maybe the Krieger barrel helps a little ). My hope then was to just get an SD of 9. . . even for just 5 shots. I've come a long ways and typically get in the low 6's for a large series of shots (like 40 and 50 shots recorded). Last year I procured a box of Alpha brass and a fire forming session of 80 rounds, the SD was 6.5 and the 5 shot groups were good, but not great.

Now, if I don't get single digit SD's I know there's something not working, like I tried out some Remington 9.5's and 45 shots gave me an SD of 20.4 and groups were over 1 MOA. It wasn't one of my best loads I was playing with, but it should have been much lower than that. Tried another 10 rounds with one of my better loads that typically works well and still didn't get a good results with those primers (SD of 14.4).

And yes, you're right on. . . SD's can really show up in vertical dispersion on target at distance.

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Rob01 said:

Gas gun is a PRS division. Any match that is a PRS match you can shoot a gas gun in and be in gas gun division. Just like someone shooting open or tactical.

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I totally understand. But there is just a gas gun division. No bolt guns, just gas. None around the area @wyattgtx was asking. I'm sure that is what he meant. But, could be wrong.

Whenever I’m someone’s deadman switch I always announce it to the world. Seems legit.

White_Shark said:

MRGG-A will greatly outperform a lot of the 6ARC options, especially when coupled with higher pressure capable cases.

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No one is debating this. A 6.5 CM will always outperform a 6mm ARC. But is the increased performance worth the significant penalty in weight and bulk of the rifle, magazine, ammo, spare parts? And the increased recoil? For a DMR it probably makes sense to have a larger frame gasser slinging 147gr downrange.

But for a general issue infantry rifle? It becomes a much more dubious proposition.

I won't pretend to be an SME on DOD small arms procurement, but it strikes me that 6mm ARC (especially if it were in the ICAR magazines and reveivers) is a far more logical choice to achieve the army's stated goals of the NGSW program rather than the abortion of the new .277 Sig Fury rifle.

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Recent groups of Norma Tac in my T1x Ace.

30m: 5 shot group
30m: 10 shot group
140m: 30 shot group
211m: 30 shot group (I think 2 went over top of the plate though...)

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Rush Limbaugh pretty much summed this up by stating that the majority of women will vote for who they think will take better care of them.

Between the state and a man, they will overwhelmingly choose the state.

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Just hype to get an audience

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I've put around 1400 rounds through the rifle and shot my first match with it now.
Haven't had a huge amount of time to shoot since buying the rifle but it'll get used more and more from now on.

First match didn't go well, which I think was mostly due to my ammo (Eley Club which seems to vary alot between batches) however the rifle performed well, and have no additional complaints about the rifle.

Managed to pick up some Norma Tac ammo very cheaply (cheaper than everything else, even bulk HV crap) and it's shooting that very well.
My 30m groups are all easily into one ragged hole and almost always under .25".
The ES/SD is fairly good so I'm printing decent groups at 150m and 200m isn't too shabby, it's not anything close to Eley Tenex accuracy but it's really not bad.

Have another match in a few days which will hopefully be the first real test of the rifle.

ShootnFool8 said:

Believe all east coast area.

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Gas gun is a PRS division. Any match that is a PRS match you can shoot a gas gun in and be in gas gun division. Just like someone shooting open or tactical.

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“Would Split Her”!

Dick measuring with a side of pissing contest