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168BTHPM · 2025-07-12T02:28:07-0400

clcustom1911 said:
One of the local police units here has a DDM guy with a legit SVD. I had to fight the urge to steal it

I brought this one back from the great Taco Bell wars of the 90's, back when beef burritos were 79 cents.

vh20 · 2025-07-12T02:16:22-0400

sirhrmechanic said:
No idea the validity of this but it fits with a few posts above.

Could a software bug or error have done this? A virus? A sensor failure?

Seems like fuel feed cutoffs are the sort of thing that should be controlled by a real live toggle switch. With a cover on it. And a really strong spring to keep it from moving by itself?

I get what you're asking, but if the Pilot Flying PHYSICALLY moved them back to the Run position mere seconds before the crash, that would indicate to me that they HAD to have been PHYSICALLY moved to the Cutoff position prior to that correction. In other words, if it were a software bug that cut off the fuel, the switches would have still been in the Run position, because they can only be manually moved over the stops. So no, not a software bug or virus. Also, there is not a more strategic time for this to have occurred that would have been more devastating. It happened at the absolute most critical time for it not to be recoverable. A minute earlier - time to abort. A minute later - enough altitude for a re-light to have saved it.

I'm just a lowly SEL Private pilot, but it reminds me of the day I once had not one, but TWO engine "failures" in the same day in the same plane at about the same time in the takeoff sequence (about treetop level). It's a long story, but I'm very glad that both times I had enough runway left ahead of me to just land straight ahead.

Sean the Nailer · 2025-07-12T02:13:15-0400

This topic, to one extent or another, has been talked about, hashed, re-hashed, and re-resuscitated so many times over the years. Decades even. From many different tangents and perspectives. There are eleventy different "right" ways to do things, and at the same time there are eleventy different "don't-ever-do-this" type of things, because 'reasons'.

Let me add this one little simple point enter the discussion, and do with it what you will:

Where do you store your powder and ammo? WITH your prized possessions, to prevent theft/unauthorized contact and to keep them away from heat/fire OR/
Away from your prized possessions, to keep them away from your prized possessions in case of fire?

Now tell me, does THAT change your question and perspective?