DarnYankeeUSMC said:

You really need to study on #1. Zionists are not what God was talking about.
How are Israelis/Jews that rejected Jesus as the Messiah any different than a Buddhist, Muslim or an atheist?

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This. In addition, being “friendly with” doesn’t mean they should control the US Congress and get huge volumes of free $$$$ collected from US/Canadian tax payers. The Bible does not say “pay billions to anyone who says they are of said ethnic group”. If “they”, who are self identified, are the group that cannot be criticized on pain of imprisonment by our own cops and judges, well the oppressors are clearly marked.

Longshot231 said:

Israel is not a perfect country. No country is perfect. Neither are we.

It comes down to three choices.

1) We support Israel.
2) We support Hamas and by extension all muslim terrorists.
3) We support neither.

I choose #1. Why? Because God says that whoever blesses Israel will be blessed and whoever curses Israel will be cursed. Reference Genesis 12:3 and Numbers 24:9.

That doesn't mean we give them a pass over everything. We should call out wrong doing whenever and wherever we see it. That doesn't mean giving aid and comfort to their enemies; who are also our enemies. More on that later.

Despite some of the bad things that they have done, they have still remained our best ally in the Middle East. Some would argue that the Saudis are a good ally. When friends like them, why do we need enemies?

If we choose #2 we are choosing to slit our own throats. There is no other religion in the world that has Christianity in its cross hairs more than Islam. That means the United States.

Some people over here may not think that we are a Christian country and that's a debate for another day. However, the muslim terrorists and the countries that support them believe we are a Christian country. So they contend that we must be destroyed.

Iran is the biggest supporter of Hamas. Remember that they refer to us as the "Great Satan." They want to destroy us as much as they do Israel.

So choosing option #2 is a suicide maneuver for us.

If we choose #3 that's just as bad as choosing #2. Sacrificing Israel is a bad idea for the reason that I gave for choosing #1.

Like I said, even if you don't believe in the biblical blessings and curses; by giving the Mediterranean goat-fuckers the country of Israel only results in strengthening them and encouraging them.

From a military and political perspective, keeping Israel alive provides a distraction for them. By spending their resources on trying to eliminate Israel, that's less that they have to spend on hurting us.

Let that last statement sink in for a minute. As long as there is a country in the Middle East that the Mediterranean goat-fuckers spend time, money, resources and people on the less they have available to attack us.

Even if they were able to wipe Israel off the map and kill every Jew in the world, the Islam-o-fascists won't stop there. They want nothing less than world domination, impose sharia law on our homeland, enslave your women and children then kill all white Christian men.

So whether anyone likes it or not, we have no choice but to choose #1. That's my two cents worth.

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You really need to study on #1. Zionists are not what God was talking about.
How are Israelis/Jews that rejected Jesus as the Messiah any different than a Buddhist, Muslim or an atheist?

corsairpilot62 said:

@TurdFerguson has the order shipped yet? Any luck contacting them?

https://www.spectergear.com/ Was these guys right?

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I called, emailed and got crickets, filed a report with PayPal and got a reversal… Not sure what’s going on there.

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IMHO the big guy held back when he struck back at the fat ass nigger bitch. He could have knocked her out with one punch and broke her jaw as well. More of this needs to be done or else don't go where niggers like that congregate.

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Ronin22 said:

A very well respected barrel maker: Gas port with 100rnds fired. Gave issues first 150rnds then "broke in". View attachment 8783334
A barrel with 100rnds that shot great out the gate.
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You might need a break in, or you might not. Depending on the metal migration at the gas port.

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I'll say the top picture for sure the gas port is hitting the driving side of the land but is it causing the burr in the gas port?

Bottom picture if I'm looking at the orientation correctly the port is hitting the trailing side of a land.

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Not a quad rail, but who’s counting?

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ROUS’s

nagantguy said:

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They took the DUI for profit game to the next logical step- arrest ticket everyone for everything and some will stick and generate revenue.
Every once in a while a real criminal might get arrested as well , but who cares ?

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"There's only a few bad ones ".

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Israel is not a perfect country. No country is perfect. Neither are we.

It comes down to three choices.

1) We support Israel.
2) We support Hamas and by extension all muslim terrorists.
3) We support neither.

I choose #1. Why? Because God says that whoever blesses Israel will be blessed and whoever curses Israel will be cursed. Reference Genesis 12:3 and Numbers 24:9.

That doesn't mean we give them a pass over everything. We should call out wrong doing whenever and wherever we see it. That doesn't mean giving aid and comfort to their enemies; who are also our enemies. More on that later.

Despite some of the bad things that they have done, they have still remained our best ally in the Middle East. Some would argue that the Saudis are a good ally. When friends like them, why do we need enemies?

If we choose #2 we are choosing to slit our own throats. There is no other religion in the world that has Christianity in its cross hairs more than Islam. That means the United States.

Some people over here may not think that we are a Christian country and that's a debate for another day. However, the muslim terrorists and the countries that support them believe we are a Christian country. So they contend that we must be destroyed.

Iran is the biggest supporter of Hamas. Remember that they refer to us as the "Great Satan." They want to destroy us as much as they do Israel.

So choosing option #2 is a suicide maneuver for us.

If we choose #3 that's just as bad as choosing #2. Sacrificing Israel is a bad idea for the reason that I gave for choosing #1.

Like I said, even if you don't believe in the biblical blessings and curses; by giving the Mediterranean goat-fuckers the country of Israel only results in strengthening them and encouraging them.

From a military and political perspective, keeping Israel alive provides a distraction for them. By spending their resources on trying to eliminate Israel, that's less that they have to spend on hurting us.

Let that last statement sink in for a minute. As long as there is a country in the Middle East that the Mediterranean goat-fuckers spend time, money, resources and people on the less they have available to attack us.

Even if they were able to wipe Israel off the map and kill every Jew in the world, the Islam-o-fascists won't stop there. They want nothing less than world domination, impose sharia law on our homeland, enslave your women and children then kill all white Christian men.

So whether anyone likes it or not, we have no choice but to choose #1. That's my two cents worth.

Damnitt, I was in Kennewick last Thursday...

GLWS

Here is another thought for you... if the barrel has a hard chrome plated bore... is it a plating/adhesion issue?

Charger442 said:

his picture said Ghana?

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On my phone all I see is a dude taking a selfie

hairy_pineapple588 said:

Is anyone using 6gt brass in 25gt? Have the SAC Gt die also.

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Sort of, I ran some new cases through my .0025 undersized neck expander mandrel and they worked fine. Were you looking for something specific?

I have been considering purchasing some powder for the 3 oh hate , both a bolt action and semi auto platform. Any recommendations on which American reloading powders to consider in this endeavor?

Makinchips208 said:

TLDR?
Grok short summary.

“Tech-heavy K–12 creates illiterate college students, Bookbinder warns.”

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Grok didn’t get it then.

Rob01 said:

Have fun with them but just trying to help him to get more performance for his money.

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Mine are long gone, and they aren't making more. So if he has them, not using them wouldn't be very economical. I mostly got them plink with my 308. I.E. "practice."

There are way better performing 30 cal bullets for sure. There are 168s with a higher BC.

6.5SH said:

The issue is much, much older and has roots in the "progressive" movement of the late 1800's. There is even a shooting related tangent to it.

Don't Read, Don't Tell

Clinton's phony war on illiteracy

www.hoover.org

If you didn't pick up on the tangent, Horace Mann was F.W. Mann's father; author of "The Bullet's Flight"

ETA:
Apologies he was an Uncle.

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Quote from the article:

“The National Adult Literacy Survey (NALS), released in 1993, revealed that between 40 million and 44 million Americans are unable to read phone books, ballots, car manuals, nursery rhymes, the Declaration of Independence, the Bible, the Constitution, or the directions on a medicine bottle. Another 50 million Americans recognize so few printed words that they are limited to a fourth- or fifth-grade level of reading. Illiterates account for 75 percent of unemployed adults, 33 percent of mothers receiving Aid to Families with Dependent Children, 85 percent of juveniles who appear in court, and 60 percent of prison inmates.”

This was the early ‘90s.

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supercorndogs said:

There is another thing I see in those photos that I have heard batted around. One gas port is almost completely in the groove and the other almost completely cut through a land.

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Well it's debatable!

My .02 on the situation of the gas port touching the land or in the groove. Thoughts in random order...

Does the barrel/gun maker have a timing fixture to make that happen? You will need a fixture/set up to do different gas port lengths as well as twist rates not to mention the option of the number of grooves.

Size of the gas port vs the groove width? If the groove width for example on a .224/5.56 in a six groove barrel spec is .074" and the gas port is .092" there is no way that is going to happen. A 5R rifled barrel or a 4 groove because the grooves are wider it gives you more room to time up the port to fall in the groove.

The spec for ammunition test barrels with gas ports is the port has to be timed to fall in the groove. The front pressure port on a 224 type barrel is .060". On a .074" wide groove that gives us a total of .014" for clearance or if you will .007" per side. So yes we have timing fixtures/set ups so we put the port in the barrel in the groove. We have to time the ports for .224/5.56, .308/7.62 and .270cal, 6.5mm and 50cal etc...

I've seen gas ports in the groove or on the land and it didn't make a hill of beans difference. Not just in terms of accuracy but for abnormal port erosion.

Ideally if the port is going to hit the land I don't want to see it hitting the driving side of the land. When the bullet is going down the barrel it's being forced up against the driving side of the land. That's going to leave a sharp edge and along with if and when you start getting gas cutting effect in the port... the driving side of the land is going to beat the bullet up more. This can lead to bullet damage, copper fouling from the port towards the muzzle and in the end accuracy issues or bullet failures possibly but not in every single instance does it happen.

Some powders are more abrasive then others. I feel this can cause issues. As well as if you have a really high gas port pressure (higher than normal) it will also cause more erosion.

Some will say it's in the steel being soft or bad etc.... From what I've seen... there is no way to measure that. I've seen barrels that we've made done it but out of the same lot of steel...others have not. Statistically from what I've seen here the problem is really low if it happens.

Here is a kicker for ya.... in all of the ammunition pressure test barrels we've made with a gas port in it so they can measure bullet time / pressure at the port.... I haven't seen a single one where the ammo maker calls up with a problem. So with that being said... I rule out it being in the steel. In regards to the ammunition test barrels about 99% of them are being made out of SS now. Hardly any CM test barrels being made.

Some say CM steel barrels hold up better or don't do it but the SS barrels it is more prone to happen. Yet I have seen no data to support that anywhere. Read my last sentence in the previous paragraph.

I've seen it happen in button made barrels, cut rifled barrels and hammer forged barrels. Some will argue that the button barrels because the process work hardens the bore you have a less chance of this happening. I say no to that. So?

The only thing I can chalk it up to for the abnormal port erosion where it causes accuracy/bullet issues.... is the type of powder being used from abrasive types of powder and port pressure at the pressure port but I cannot tell you which powder and what pressures where that comes into play.

I do feel we still deal with a gas cutting effect from the powders when the bullet leaves the muzzle. That's why I don't like a 90 degree/sharp edge crowns. Gas cutting and easy cleaning rod damage. That's why all of our muzzle crowns get a 60 degree chamfer put on the barrels regardless if it's a bolt gun or gas gun. Also the 60 degree angle is on all ammunition test barrels for the military. It's a standard spec.

My thoughts on it.

Later, Frank
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