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300Blk At Distance

Thats a great breakdown of some really good multipurpose cartridges. All nice information, but in a nutshell, if you don't like 300 Blackout (Blk), don't use it. The thread is not about any of those cartridges, it is about the capabilities of the 300 Blk. Every caliber you listed requires special magazines, special bolt heads, special this that and the other. They are also not commonly available many places, with little selection where you can even find them. They are additionally much more expensive. Several take a larger framed rifle to even use them. The Blackout will do what it will do, and will do it out of an AR-15 or small framed bolt rifle. All with easily found components at a reasonable price. At 500 yards you can place a 110 grain bullet on a reasonably sized target (lets say 2 MOA) with relative ease out of these systems. If you don't like the limitations or abilities, its just not for you.
Most importantly to me, the 300 Blk will do any commonly known 30 caliber subsonic BETTER than the 308, something discovered clear back since the development of the 30 whisper. Hunting is not the only reason to use this caliber, nor what it was developed for. It will however do the job nicely withing its range limits for medium game. 200 yards on a deer, if it walks or hobbles very far away, you made a poor shot. Inside 150 yards with subs, the 205 SGK keeps 1000+ fps if started at 1050. The 190 sub-x is limited to 100 yards there. The damage will be greater than a broadhead arrow can do at 20 yards. Is an arrow insufficient to kill deer? Whatever medium you are shooting, plenty of photos of real game killed show sufficient expansion and damage for hunting.
No one I read is advocating long distance shots at game in this thread. Tactical uses could vary. To ignore the many, many, many verifiable kills of game inside the 200 yard parameter with the 300 blk is your prerogative, but why? The 22 short all but wiped out the whitetail deer herds of Mexico after Santa Anna banned all larger calibers. A 190 - 220 grain bullet moving faster won't do the trick on a deer? Just like ALL hunting, know your limits in marksmanship, your weapon/calibers limitation, and game anatomy. Every single "they walked away from a heart shot" story I've seen, the marksman misjudged their shot placement. I have misjudged a few shots on game in my life, but was taught at a young age the bullet does not lie. The angles were not what they seemed. Range was mis-estimated. You made a poor shot. All will happen if you shoot at enough deer. So many are so quick to blame the arrow.....

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All good stuff and thoughts guys, I have gotten to the point that I dont ever trust box bc values but generally they are closer then im experiencing with this project. So that would point me towards something going on with the lower velocity. I was under the impression that hornady 4dof and ab cdm calculated in the muzzle velocity bc variation but I could be wrong on that, either way they have similar drop numbers to what published bc was. Ab cdm was the closest but still .3 off.
Like has been stated i bet a 7.5 twist would help. Mine is a 8 twist.

Vudoo closed the doors…

I heard over on a 2011 forum that Vudoo at the most recent show handed out business cards, that had no name or phone numbers. WTF?

Apparently lots of deposits and full payments were made on their handguns too before they shut the doors. How ethical of them.
There's a picture of that business card a few posts back, but the interest in it paled in comparison to the relevance of the tractor discussion. The court of public opinion has rendered a verdict.

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2 heavy bolt lifts and dirty cases

The hottest loads starting to show heavy extraction is normal.
The dirty cases, I’ve had it sometimes and I contribute it to the hot gases post firing mixing with the cooler maybe more humid air and immediately condensing onto the chamber, which gets transferred to the case body when it’s fired and pressed it the chamber walls.
Fold and wrap a paper towel around a jag so that it doesn’t jab through and jam it into the chamber and spin, I bet you see lots of soot come out of that chamber.

No idea on the primer crack.

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Interesting read

Dr. Luke Kemp
Luke is a Senior Research Associate at the Notre Dame Institute of Advanced Study, and a Research Affiliate at the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk (CSER) and Darwin College at the University of Cambridge. His research focuses on understanding the long run history and future of extreme global risks. Luke has advised the WHO and multiple international institutions, and his work has been covered by media outlets such as the BBC, New York Times, and the New Yorker.



He holds both a Doctorate in International Relations and a Bachelor of Interdisciplinary Studies with first class honours from the Australian National University (ANU). His first book on the deep history and future of societal collapse (Goliath’s Curse) will be published with Penguin in 2025.

Peer-Reviewed Publications:

Kemp, Luke. 2018. “Mediating the Climate Crisis”, forthcoming in “Handbook on Mediating International Crises”, eds Wilkenfeld, Jon., Beardsley, Kyle., Quinn, Dave.
Kemp, Luke. 2017. “Better Out Than In”, Nature Climate Change, 7: 458–460.
Kemp Luke. 2017. “Limiting Climate Impact of the Trump Administration”, Palgrave MacMillan Communications, 3(9): 1-5.
Kemp Luke. 2017. “A Systems Critique of the Paris Climate Agreement”, in “Pathways to a Sustainable Economy- Bridging the gap between Paris climate change commitments and net zero emissions”, eds Hossain, Moazzem., Hales, Robert., and Sarker, Tapan.
Kemp, Luke. 2017. “Is the Paris Agreement Universal and Useless?”, Australian and New Zealand Society on International Law (ANZSIL), Perspective 9.
Kemp, Luke. 2016. “US-Proofing the Paris Climate Agreement”, Climate Policy, DOI 10.1080/14693062.2016.1176007
Kemp, Luke. 2016. “Book Review: Justice for Future Generations: Climate Change and International Law, by Peter Lawrence”, Climate and Carbon Law Review 10(3): 239-240.
Kemp, Luke. 2015. “Framework for the Future: Exploring the possibility of majority voting in the climate negotiations”, International Environmental Agreements, 16(5): 757-779
Kemp, Luke. 2015. “Bypassing the ‘ratification straitjacket’: reviewing US legal participation in a climate agreement”, Climate Policy 16(8): 1011-1028.
Kemp, Luke. 2014. “Realpolitik and Reform at Rio+20: The Politics of Reforming the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP).” Earth System Governance Working Paper No. 30. Lund and Amsterdam: Earth System Governance Project.
Other Publications:

Kazagalis, Alex; Ward, John; Sammon, Paul; Evans, Stuart; and Kemp, Luke. 2017. “Net Zero in New Zealand: Scenarios to achieve domestic emissions neutrality in the second half of the century”, Report prepared for Globe NZ by Vivid Economics.
Kemp, Luke. 2017. Climate Report 2017: The Private Sector and Climate Finance in G20 Countries (Australia)”, Konrad Adenauer Stiftung.
Jotzo, Frank and Kemp, Luke. 2016. “INDCs and Low-carbon Growth Strategies in Developing Asia. Asian Development Bank.
World Bank Group. 2016. “State and Trends of Carbon Pricing 2016”, prepared by Vivid Economics and Ecofys, Washington DC. (Head author of “Chapter 4: Building an international carbon market after Paris”). Page 3 of 3
Kemp, Luke and Jotzo, Frank. 2015. “Delaying mitigation would be costly for Australia”, Centre for Climate Economics and Policy for WWF-Australia.
Jotzo, Frank and Kemp, Luke. 2015. “Australia can cut emissions deeply and the cost is low”, Centre for Climate Economics and Policy for WWF-Australia.
Kemp, Luke; Sackett, Penny; Jotzo, Frank. 2015. “Sub-National Climate Policies: How does the ACT compare?”, ACT Climate Change Council, Canberra.

It's constant the sky is falling with these people unless the left is in charge.