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Kickin45 said:

Since there’s already 4 pages of “hopes & dreams” of what this will be, do we have any confirmed dimensions? Bell size, weight etc?
Thanks y’all.

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You will get all that when they are ready to get on the market but the weight and power range being mentioned in this thread are right there. Other dimensions we will have to wait.

I'm patiently waiting for Vortex to drop a Baby Razor and updated Fury 5000+, they've earned my money.
I stripped my AMG threads on the illumination cap recently, which I admitted, and they paid for the return, the fix, shipping back in quick time, on an 8 yo discontinued scope, and threw some goofy swag.
The baby Razor is the only one pulling me away from buying another ZCO 4-20...

Run a 28" barrel if you want free speed and better brass life? Why so many 24" creeds these days? PRS vs NRLH vs hunting, what's the intended use? Curious.

Basic user said:

I wasnt really looking for any specific velocity as I have no idea what right looks like for this bullet/cartridge combo, as I've never shot the 153's before. This was my first serious load work up in it. I just started a little before book max and began working up slowly like normal. I'm just wondering why I'm getting pressure signs of this size when I was a grain & a half at least below book max.

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I shoot 153 ATips in my 28” with H4350 and get in the 2680fpa area.

Great deal. Love my mergers. Free bump and good luck with your sale.

I think you'd be a fool to overlook Meopta. The optika 6 in 5-30×56mm is a spectacular scope. I've used mine to shoot prs matches, tracks perfectly, and the glass is spectacular. Nothing in that price range is going to be as good as the meopta (it's my opinion, and it's correct). I think they are about $1,100 new, but I've seen them used for $750-$800.

Still available.

LuvDog said:

At this point, I'm excited to see what MB comes out with.

I'm also looking forward to DPG and L3I coming to market with their rimfires.

As for VGW, I won't go back. I have my 360 but I won't get another. And as much as I like my other Zermatt actions, I don't think a RimX is in my future either.

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Thanks, LD, very much appreciated. The response below is written in response to many such comments that have been made to me privately and not necessarily a direct response to your public stance above.

I wasn't going to say anything else about this, as I felt enough has been said and we've learned more about tractors than I thought possible , but after some prior remarks made over the weekend, I've received considerable outreach that has indicated that many, justifiably, are at a loss to understand the current dynamic.

While I won't speak about VGW the company, as I've made my position clear, many know that I'm supporting the rifles, which I refer to as V22s, for one reason. To not abandon this community. But part of the head scratching amongst many is due to a struggle to understand the glibness by which many in the community are speaking of the "closing of the doors."

Whether the remarks from the CEO at Three Sigma are being shared or the absence of a vendor that's in receipt of some amount of money without providing some level of comfort to those that paid it (and there are many other examples), there's a part of our community that is normalizing the bad behavior from companies that serve this community.

So why has this behavior become more common? Because there's enough in this community that allow it, and that forces those engaged in the behavior to think, "well, we got away with-it last time." It doesn't matter to me what side anyone is on, but if one has allowed the behavior, there's nothing to gripe about the next time it happens. "Normal" is defined by how the "standard" is treated. Demand a higher standard or take what they give you.

MB

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…or not.

Pete Cefalu said:

I signed up for David Lyndsay’s ELR class. It’s the weekend of June 13.

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David is a good dude. Very good shooter

Everyone saying “they won’t go back”

Famous Hide process:

Issue (real or fake)

Never again will I buy their product

Pile on - “They suck”

Mfg “makes it right”, what ever that means to each individual opinion

Next holiday weekend group buy, same guys buy the product because it’s 100$ cheaper

Whistle Pig is one of my favorites.
I like the 6 a lot .

I tried an 8? And another 12 I belive it was the conniac barrel one. Nope stick with 6 for me.

Ashes! Ashes! We all fall down!

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WeR0206 said:

The RTR’s are a fantastic option/value for the price. I may grab one myself soon. Was gonna grab the SOLGW SPR (curious to check out the 3 groove polygonal rifling) but they are out of stock everywhere.

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This is what kills me about barrels lately. Everything is out of stock. I usually just pick the best option with the shortest lead time, even if it costs more.

For a free app with basic features, the Arken ballistics app is decent.

The only thing that I haven't been able to figure out is if you can "true" the load at different distances.

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Basic user said:

I wasnt really looking for any specific velocity as I have no idea what right looks like for this bullet/cartridge combo, as I've never shot the 153's before. This was my first serious load work up in it. I just started a little before book max and began working up slowly like normal. I'm just wondering why I'm getting pressure signs of this size when I was a grain & a half at least below book max.

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I started searching this thread. I saw a 2640 MV from a 26" barrel and a few others close to that MV. I personally wouldn't want to be any higher than that myself or I'd probably be question myself all the time if my brass will last

Maybe back down just a tad and keep it 2610 ish?

dzz said:

I did call them and Beretta is not selling them for rifles released after 2022, so for all rifles made after 2022 you need to send them to Beretta. I created first parts request since this is very easy to replace the part and they refused it, they sent me shipping label to send them the rifle for warranty repair since my rifle is only about 8 months old. My rifle is at Beretta right now, but I know it isn only question of time when this issue will happen again.

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So, as I am not familiar with the T1X, can this part become an issue for a rifle that has been moved to a chassis such as the PDC or MDT XRS?

I did something similar. I started with 3 boxes of Berger 144 gr LRHT ammo for break in and to get used to the chassis setup. I then worked up a load and tested for how far off the lands with 1x fired brass.

I am up to ~300 rounds on the barrel. Yesterday I loaded up 30 rounds (now 3x fired brass) above and below the initial load. I did add neck mandrel sizing and neolube to my process. The preferred charge has not changed but the avg speed is up ~30fps and the SD has tightened (<7). I’m at just under 0.5MOA at 100 yards.

26 in CRB 1:8 twist on an Impact 737
Lapua LP 3x fired brass
Federal GM210 primers
41.6 gr H4350
0.030 off the lands
TBAC Magnus SR
Avg speed is now 2780 fps (10 rounds).

carbonbased said:

How much torque can you impart with that?

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I will be honest, I am not sure. I give it a snap and it requires the wrench to get the barrel lose again.

Personal anecdote:
When I first got the AI, I had to decide between keeping it or my DT SRS A1. I did a Return to Zero test where I shot 10 rounds at a single POA while removing the barrel completely between each shot. All were <0.7" which with whatever box Hornady match I was using at the time meant the deviation was within my shooting capabilities. Of course your mileage may very, so always test your own rifles to verify.