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That sucks!! Welcome to the forum from L.I.

CTM1 said:

Why not just stick with the dovetail already on the UTM and use the Wilcox FTS mount?

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Thanks a ton for the pics!! I guess that’s what I’ll have to do. The CTM was appealing because I wouldn’t have to have a FTS for every rifle, just one for the thermal.

We are all just grateful @Dirty D is okay.

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I have a drinking problem ......

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5002 still up for grabs?

The old guy is Martin. He died back in October. He was a great dog. The little dachshund is Auggie. I didn't really want another dog, but the family did so we compromised and have another dog. He's alright, just not the goodest boy old Martin was.

Gray Ops for bolt guns. Badger Ordinance for AR's.

91Eunozs said:

Honest question because I have almost zero experience even eyeballing them, let alone shooting with them, but has ZCO finally surpassed TT for top dog Alpha scope?

I have a couple S&B scopes and LOVE them, as well as a couple mid-tier Nightforce, one Swarovski and one Zeiss scope, plus quite a few Leupolds for comparison, but finally looking for new glass for my 280AI. I’m leaning towards another S&B (probably a 6-36), but wondering about current thoughts on the latest offerings from ZCO and TT.

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small world, I'm thinking about a scope for my 280AI this season myself. what load are you shooting? mine likes the factory 160 gr nosler partitions, but i might work up a load with the Barnes TTSX, i keep hearing the 140 gr is the sweet spot for the 280ai. I'm still on the fence about the scope I want to put on there. I'm hunting big whitetail and hopefully elk in the near future. I'm looking at more of a mid range scope, my shots are 200-600 yards, and low light is always a factor. I'll post a couple i've been thinking about below. As for Schmidt and Bender, I have a 1.5-8x42 on my 30.06 browning blr, and I like it, schmidt has some awesome glass, but things are kind of in flux for them right now from my perspective, so personally i'm going to wait and see what happens before i invest in another schmidt. to my eye, i like the zco better than the TT, but different strokes.



in no real order, I like to shoot moa scopes when i'm hunting and mil if i'm taking a class or if i get lucky and am able to shoot a match, I can use either system well enough to speak to it.


https://cstactical.com/swarovski-z8i-3-5-28x50-4w-i-68406/

I have a 3-18x50 z6i on my 300 win mag, and I feel it's a great all around rifle/scope, sure 300 wm is large for some applications, but I've become very proficient with it, and I have a custom ballistic turret so it's a no brainer when it comes to distance shots. I like the reticle, I had a tiny bit of input when it was being developed, and it matches the custom ballistic turret. I feel this is the next iteration of that scope, the weight is good and it has enough adjustment to do what i need to with it. only drawback is it's second focal, but I personally don't mind it for hunting applications. it's got a 30mm tube and is one of the lighter scopes of the one's I'm thinking about, which could become a larger factor to consider if I start hunting in tougher terrain and in mountains.


Optically this scope is top tier and i like everything about it. playing with one in low light I was very impressed. the 36mm tube is a little large, but the optical performance alone makes this a big contender for me. close range I feel you could get on target and i felt I could do well if i had to make a quick shot with the scope on low magnification. I like the way the turrets felt, the parallax, and viewing at distance was a no brainer


I shot an nxs 5.5-22x56 moar for a long time, really enjoyed it, shot it a lot and killed a few deer with it. this is a step way up from that scope, and gives better performance on the low end in case there is a close shot and better optical performance. I've always been impressed with these scopes, ever since I saw the first one years ago. could get a custom turret for it, I'm familiar and comfortable with these scopes, and I like the reticle having used it a good bit already.


I'm trying to get my hands on one of these, I had an older victory diavari 3-12x56 on a rifle I sold a few years ago out of necessity and I really like it, i'd be interested to see one of these new scopes in action and looking at specifications alone, seems like it could be a really interesting option.


for my purposes, i also looked at the lht https://cstactical.com/vortex-razor-lht-4-5-22x50-ffp-xlr-2-moa-rzr-42201/ I've got several buddies and customer's using the lht scopes, and I have one on a 270, I've been very pleased with mine. haven't killed anything with it yet, but that's my fault, not the rifles.

No offense to you...but that stock is about the worst design ever made. Too many issues to list.

My always "on" Border Collie Django really surprised me today.
The missus said "get him outta the house " or you're gonna have to pay for therapy for the cats
So I took him in the swather for the first time.
He was really laid back and spent the afternoon watching the goings on through the big front window.
Guess I got me a new haying partner




Just dawned on me
A few posts up is my youngest son with his new pup in the hay field
Like father like son I guess

W54/XM-388 said:

No it wasn't some B.S. about "chaotic" it was clearly cold blooded murder.
The actual hero was on his knees with his hands in the air, completely unarmed and pleading that he was an Israeli citizen when the soldier decided to murder him in cold blood.

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It's not like we have video of this, don't believe your lying eyes.

kindabitey said:

My little murder muffin passed away last Monday. We had 9 years being together 24/7. She was shop dog/ head of security at work
and pretty much my shadow. She will be missed terribly. This was the last pic I took a few months ago at Pigg River when she was still able to get around and enjoy it.View attachment 8749108

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Very beautiful animal.
Nine years of irreplaceable memories.
My sincerest condolences on your loss

Maurygold said:

how do we ban someone??? What the fuck are you talking about with these suggestions? I would normally let Athlon slide, but these others are just senseless, no-name companies.

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Mate, I like this forum, and I try not to argue about shit with strangers on the internet, but I swear you are collecting the infinity stones of retarded posts in the last fortnight.

Normally the dogshit takes are shared between a few posters on here, but somehow you’ve had a monopoly on them lately

A few comments.

Vortex does not currently make a 56mm objective scope in the $1000-ish price range, which is more or less where you need to be in order to offer some sort of an improvement over DNT The One. The closest Vortex has at the moment is the Strike Eagle 5-25x56, which is a nice scope, but DNT probably has a bit of an edge over it. Next step up from Vortex is the Gen2 Razor, which is quite a bit more money.

Athlon ERS ETR 4.5-30x56 and Delta Javelin 4.5-30x56 are very similar scopes made by the same OEM, but with different turrets and reticles. Reticles are individual, so it is good to look at both. Delta Optical has been around for a while. I think they started in early 2000s, which makes it older than Athlon, Vortex (I think), Maven, Tract, GPO, March. etc. It is not a big company, but they are growing and are pretty well known in Europe. They are slowly growing here as well.

Telson is indeed new.

Athlon is, indeed, a very recognizable name in the US market.

As far as small companies go, I remember back around 2006-2007 or sometime around then, a few people took a chance on a new optics company. They had no name recognition, a limited product line and iffy future. I distinctly remember someone asking me why I would get a scope from some new outfit instead of a well established brand with known support and reputation, like Leupold or Bushnell. My basic line of thought at the time was that the guys at that company seemed like nice people and if noone ever takes a chance small companies will never become big companies. Competition is a healthy thing and big players need an occasional wake up call. Apparently, I was not the only one who thought they were worth a shot, since that little optics company grew, iterated their product line, developed new products and eventually became the largest player (by a solid margin) in the riflescope world. If you havn't yet figured out who I am talking about, the company is Vortex.

Some people are willing to take a chance on a new company. Some are not. That's why we have options.

ILya

My factory barrel shot like crap. Was a bart mtu, would not group the lots I was testing, bought a tuner, worked until it didn't. One on 20 would stick in the chamber. Had Larry Dease of Walker County Precision spin me up one of his Kreiger 23", 1:16tw, 1.250 DD bbls and it was like it unlocked a gate. All lots shoot fantastic now. Hit steel at 800 yards with a charlie. The second time around, i did not thread the muzzle.