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DeLane Development Group Rimfire Ventures

I am not familiar with that Name, care to fill us in?
a lil side note, For some reason, hot rodding got my attention when I was young and despite not having anyone in the family that did it, I found it challenging and rewarding, built a few back yard projects and then the Fox body came out and we started modifying, adding parts, superchargers, turbos etc that grew into a sport and community, then the 7.3 Powerstroke came out and same thing till the EPA took that away. The gun thing was quite the unintended direction. In 17 a few of us were shooting CZs, RPRs , Kidds then in 2018 Vuddo hit the spotlight and we were like, they are crazy no one will spend that kind of money on a .22, shortly after getting beat by a Vudoo, I quickly jumped online an got a hold of Cole and asked for a discount if I bought 2 at the same time, he countered with buy 3 and we will set you up as a dealer. After providing the shooters at TX Precision the largest PRS club at the time, we quickly saw the need for changes and ultimately balance. being the hot rodder, I made some parts, learned how to run a lathe then added a 1.250 barrel at 25" . At the time I had no idea what was fixing to happen. During that time I created a group on FB to simply talk about the style of shooting and the quest for precision. Now, a whole new sport has emerged that has brought people together from all over for the common love of the sport.
You probably had no idea what it would become so again thanks for the hard work, maybe one day I can shake your hand and personally say thank you.

Another lil side note many don't know about, .22 was so dead in 2017 Federal quit selling .22 ammo, what gave you the idea to even bring a .22 to market at the time?
Sure....Jay was a co-founder and pretty creative guy. He designed what has remained to be the Vudoo logo. He worked at Barry's in St George and had never built a rifle in his life and neither had Paul. At any rate, following what ended up being a product launch at the NRA World Championships at Peacemaker in Sept 2017, I completed the manufacturing package and stood up the machines that were in St George at the time. It wasn't much, just a Haas TL1 and Bridgeport style manual mill with a cadre of finishing type tools.

Within a short time, Jay and Paul were building some of the best rifles that came out of Vudoo. At the time, the CNC lathe work out ran the extractor cuts in the manual mill, as would be expected, and most of that work was done by Jay. In parallel, I was also the Director of Engineering at Savage and made regular trips to St George. It was pretty awesome times as Vudoo literally became one of the top five hottest names in the industry in a very short period of time.

Paul then brought in a sales guy and that didn't work out so well, so he was terminated, and Jay didn't make it much longer after that. I'm sure @jbell remembers Jay....he was a good Dude and for a while, his son continued to work at Vudoo as a builder after senior departed.

As far as what started the journey....During the 2009/2010 timeframe, I was playing with a few things in rimfire after having built quite a lot of CF rifles. I tripped over a group in Colorado that eventually called themselves the "40X Mafia;" @Hoser seemed to be their ringleader, and they were on a path with single shot 40X's that sent me in the direction of developing a 40X repeater that actually worked. The project was deemed a success in 2010 after the magazine design and testing was completed.

So of course, what better place for this functional 40X Repeater than Remington Arms, right? Well, this was all at the beginning of Remington becoming very adept at declaring bankruptcy, but the window opened with them in 2012. Frankly, they doinked me around for four years and missed my final deadline in September 2016, so I departed the sandbox with my stuff and ventured out into the same unchartered territory that you found yourself in. And believe me, there was a lot to overcome between 2012 and 2015, but being tenacious paid off.

The interesting thing is, falling back on what I said earlier about how interconnected things are, Jacob Herman and I were in AZ at what was at the time, the new Surgeon Rifles facility. Part of what I discussed with Mark Johnson was any interest he may have in launching a high end rimfire. They politely chuckled and said no, but Paul Parrott was in the room, but didn't say much. So, I left and continued on my way but a little while later I ran into Paul in the SAC booth at NRA and he asked if I ever did anything with my rimfire. It was during this time that things seemed positive with Remington, so I told him I was working on something with Remington but the deadline was near and I'd let him know if they missed it, as I'd be walking away from them for good.

Sure enough, as they had so many times before, they missed the deadline and I called Paul. By August 2017, we had TEST actions produced and I started this thread on the day I built the first rifle to be tested, which is pictured on the first page of this thread. After building that rifle and it getting a bit of press, and this happened because of Jay Phillips, Lapua called and asked (because I designed the 22LR RAVAGE chamber around Center X) if we'd be interested in working with them at the NRA Championships and we immediately said, "YES!"

But, there was one test rifle and the parts weren't heat treated, and no "production" rifles and no functional shop yet in St George, but I had the CNC Lab in my garage in CT. We were able to get a few actions made and I built nine rifles in seven days, fired them into the ground out the back door of the shop, packed up a rented Suburban and drove to WV with largely untested rifles with no finish on them and they were the hit of the entire event. That's how we launched and the rest is history....

MB

So.......

@Gunfighter14e2 has the best response, short of rapture, nothing will satisfy me.

We could try to stick together as a cohesive unit, but there are too many freeloaders gaming the system stacked against us to try and make a difference. Every politician, save a handful, are not doing work in our best interest.

I think it would take provocation from a third source to unite the country as a whole to shed blood for change.

That tree of liberty also requires blood of patriots.

X - Vectronix Shooting Solutions

I finally broke open the box of the replacement Calypso last week and it connected once and is bricked again (will not connect) just like the first one. I have yet to reach out but at this point, I'm about to chalk this up as a $300 loss.
Guess I need to try and pair my new calypso with the Vector X. It works with AB Quantum with no issue so far. My only complaint with the calypso so far is there is no off button.
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Did you shoot the January ELR match at Arena this year?

If so, how did your scopes do with regards to seeing trace?
Early and late, I found it almost impossible to track.
The targets we shot during the little bit of sunlight during the middle of the match were no issue.
No, I shot two matches, in March, 2019 and March 2020. The 2020 match I shot light and heavy. Mirage was worse at the 2020 match if I recall correctly.

Heavy was a 28 pound 416 Barrett with an older S&B PMII H2CMR, and the light gun, a 338 LM had the Gen2 Razor. I could control the recoil better with the Lapua, so I could pickup more trace with that one, which wasn't really due to the optic.
When at the practice range with the Barrett, I could manage the recoil enough to see the target and dirt splash (at targets 500 yards and further), and I never really could pickup trace.

I'm disabled, with spinal cord tumors, so I'm compromised, (not a complaint, just how it is. I'm alive) and during the competition, to save time on the clock, and run the bolt, I relied on my spotters more than I should have, but Corbin S. and Randy P. both were amazing, and I came in 13th in both divisions out of 25ish shooters in each division.

The Barrett is a M99 24" barrel, and I only have a functional left arm, and it wasn't strong enough to reach over the scope and pop the bolt open every time, so I would pop up on my knees and open the bolt and then get back behind the gun. It was fun, but, but now I have a new build 416 Barrett, and brass from Dan Warner that actually extracts nicely.

Inside 1000 yards, I felt like the Gen2 Razor was optically very good, and I liked it almost as much as the S&B PMII. Past 1200 yards the two brands began to diverge in optical quality, not that the gen 2 was bad, I just preferred the older PMII glass.


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DeLane Development Group Rimfire Ventures

Jay Phillips

Thank you, David. It's amazing how things unfold and truly, how interesting it is that things are so interconnected.

MB
I am not familiar with that Name, care to fill us in?
a lil side note, For some reason, hot rodding got my attention when I was young and despite not having anyone in the family that did it, I found it challenging and rewarding, built a few back yard projects and then the Fox body came out and we started modifying, adding parts, superchargers, turbos etc that grew into a sport and community, then the 7.3 Powerstroke came out and same thing till the EPA took that away. The gun thing was quite the unintended direction. In 17 a few of us were shooting CZs, RPRs , Kidds then in 2018 Vuddo hit the spotlight and we were like, they are crazy no one will spend that kind of money on a .22, shortly after getting beat by a Vudoo, I quickly jumped online an got a hold of Cole and asked for a discount if I bought 2 at the same time, he countered with buy 3 and we will set you up as a dealer. After providing the shooters at TX Precision the largest PRS club at the time, we quickly saw the need for changes and ultimately balance. being the hot rodder, I made some parts, learned how to run a lathe then added a 1.250 barrel at 25" . At the time I had no idea what was fixing to happen. During that time I created a group on FB to simply talk about the style of shooting and the quest for precision. Now, a whole new sport has emerged that has brought people together from all over for the common love of the sport.
You probably had no idea what it would become so again thanks for the hard work, maybe one day I can shake your hand and personally say thank you.

Another lil side note many don't know about, .22 was so dead in 2017 Federal quit selling .22 ammo, what gave you the idea to even bring a .22 to market at the time?

PortaJohn


ASGH

It's too late. We might get a temporary respite with orange man but the NWO is not stopping.