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Brass Annealing Guide

Are you sure about 650C . all I have ever saw was to get 750F Templac to determin you target temp. 650c is 1200 deg f. I would think that would fry the cartridge.
Yes, I'm very sure.

I've heard all that about 650°F and 750°F and would do annealing with that too since those numbers are so often stated is various shooting forums. Then I came across actual research papers and found that what appears to have happened is like what happens in the telephone game and what was supposed to be Centigrade was stated as Fahrenheit.

That's right. . .650°C is at 1,200°F and that's were you see the brass glow red. It's not going to fry your brass as you might think as you're really only dealing with a second or so at that temperature (it's not like you get to that temperature instantly). Remember, the annealing process is a function of both temperature and time; very hot for short period less hot for much longer period.

Here's a pic that give you some idea of color to temperature for brass:
Brass color temperatures httpswww.instructables.comMelting-Aluminum-and-Brass-Differences.jpg


I'm attaching a couple pdf files about some studies that you can read through if you're so inclined. Or just take a quick look on page 24 of Ryan-Stevenson Dissertation file and page 5 of Recrystallization Behavior.

Note too there's been a couple test engineers on this website that have also tested this and had actual lab testing done for hardness of the brass cases. They found the same thing I found in my own testing.

PS: What inspired me to look more deeply into this issue was when someone posted their AMP machine annealing their brass and I saw how very red the case necks got, even for just a fraction of a second. It was obviously way hotter than what I was doing at 650°F (only 340°C).

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Thou shall not take the king's fish(bluefin)

What a load of horse shit.
No regulations covering this phenomenon. So they send officers to shut it down.
Pier fishing and kayak fishing are hard enough.
Leave them alone. They should keep the fish.
I assume theckayak fisherman kept his tuna. Good for him.
Peasants aren't allowed to find the loopholes i reckon.

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Rifle Scopes Athlon Ares ETR Gen2 vs DNT The One

I'm looking to pull the trigger on the GEN 2 ETR 4.5-30; after having yours for a little bit do you have any further feedback about it? Very interested in feedback on this gen 2..
Other than initial impressions nothing much to add. I am still waiting on rings, and took forever to get the KRG Bravo 10/22 chassis to work with the Kidd receiver and trigger housing. I cant really give a comparison to other scopes as the only other optics I own are a first gen PA 1-8 Raptor and an Arken EP-8 and a few 3x prism sights. Hell even though I own one I'm still dying to see some reviews of it on youtube and there is still nothing out there on this thing.
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It is hard to find many comments on this SFP scope

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Also, how is the tracking? ... and how do the turrets feel (mushy?)

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Cut rifled AR10 barrels.

I’ve looked at proof,(steel, not interested in a CF)

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This has been known about for months and months. They knew it was an issue but kept selling these, then didn’t even really come clean with the fix. It’s still broken. They need to reimburse all the buyers impacted. Come up with a real legit resolution, then get back to making what was a pretty good rimfire action.

All that BS about calling the manufacturer! It didn’t resolve anything. That was some highly biased crap.

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