Gotcha, so when Jesus said “he that… is baptized shall be saved”
And peter said “be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ”
Were they were just making suggestions?
And i agree, thats pretty clear that works don't save, but if i don't do some action, ill call it obedience, then my faith is actually dead?
Didnt noah save he and his family by building an ark? Was it works or faith or obedience?
Well on thin about what Peter says in Acts when he says be baptized for the forgiveness of sins. The word “for” (eis in Greek) can be transactional, like I’ll give you $20 for that box of ammo. But it can also be used in a non transactional way. For example, have you ever done anything “for” your birthday? Doing that thing does not grant you or give you your birthday, you do it to remember your birthday.
Now to the Mark quote again, you must read that whole passage.
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever
does not believe will be condemned.” Mark 16:16 ESV
Jesus doesn’t say you are condemned if you don’t get baptized, he says if you have unbelief you are condemned.Baptism is import yes, but it does not save or condemn us
To Noah:
“By
faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.”
Hebrews 11:7
Works are the fruit of faith, not the root of faith. True faith produces fruit, but they do not save us. As James talked about a faith without works is dead. He didn’t say you are saved by your works, rather he is illustrating that true faith produces fruit
