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lash said:
I wish I could leave my steel set up, but each time I run a match, I have to set up 30-40 targets and since the the range is used the day before. I have to set up my targets and stages starting at 5:00 pm the day before. A bit of a royal PITA.
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You MD's don't get paid near enough! Hopefully you have lots of help or at least some.

We have a small FT club but the MD and half a dozen other guys, including me, had our 24 steel targets set up in 45 minutes and half that time to put it all up.

Many of us camp out at this location, a beautiful place in the forest that we lease from the FS, so we're already there hanging out anyway.

The cool thing is we have a Silhouette side match on Friday evening, also Saturday evening after the main match, and can shoot through the course for practice on Sunday, or plink in the gravel pit which is good for long range airgun or 22rf out to 200 yards.

This location is at 7200 ft elevation so we only shoot there from June to October and then the club goes down to Ben Avery shooting range in Phoenix for the winter months.

At the UFT match, which is only during the winter months in Phoenix at PRGC, the MD is able to leave the targets out since it's away and apart from the shooting bays. Sometimes in the late spring and early fall we have night matches to extend the season which is really neat to do. This match allows 22rf too but every time a "new to this sport 22rf shooter shows up"(not inexperienced plus having decent gear) they can't figure out why the airgun shooters outscore them. Then we may see them one more time but it gets a bit hard on their ego the 2nd time they end up middle pack.
I mention this hoping some "accomplished" 22rf shooters will show up next winter to see how well they do. :p Who knows they might like this sport after all??!!

Sorry but it gets a bit boring in the airgun forum so here I am.
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House Budget Proposal to remove Tax on Suppressors but not remove it from the NFA

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lash said:
Okay, so it’s a token nod to the base, but still keeps the registration and reporting requirement. Not a win in my book.

Or am I missing something?
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It's like a rape victim getting flowers and a box of chocolates from her rapist.
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House Budget Proposal to remove Tax on Suppressors but not remove it from the NFA

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doubloon said:
Things that make you go hmmmmm

new article today ... registration required, no tax

New Senate Budget Language Would Scrap Taxes on Suppressors, Short Barrel Firearms​

By Cam Edwards | 10:01 AM | June 28, 2025





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SEC. 70436. REDUCTION OF TRANSFER AND MANUFAC8 TURING TAXES FOR CERTAIN DEVICES.
(a) TRANSFER TAX.—
Section 5811(a) is amended to read as follows:
(a) RATE.—There shall be levied, collected, and paid on firearms transferred a tax at the rate of— ‘‘
(1) $200 for each firearm transferred in the 14 case of a machinegun or a destructive device, and ‘‘
(2) $0 for any firearm transferred which is not described in paragraph (1).’’.
(b) MAKING TAX.—Section 5821(a) is amended to read as follows: ‘‘
(a) RATE.—There shall be levied, collected, and paid upon the making of a firearm a tax at the rate of— ‘‘
(1) $200 for each firearm made in the case of a machinegun or a destructive device, and ‘‘
(2) $0 for any firearm made which is not described in paragraph (1).’’.
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Okay, so it’s a token nod to the base, but still keeps the registration and reporting requirement. Not a win in my book.

Or am I missing something?
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🚨 NFA language BACK IN!!! (Post #121) HPA/Short Act Update 7/1 ☎️ these 💩 and yell at them more

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Mongo68 said:
I actually hope the bbb falls on its face now. It was jacked up to begin with like all other bills. But at least it had something fun in it ( even though I’m in Kalifornia Stan and it doesn’t matter).
Now I just want to see it all burn down. Metaphorically not actually peacefully.
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If it burns all down they'll just write a continuing resolution that's "bipartisan" and do all the same shit anyways
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Shooting on BLM Land/National Forrest - Wa State

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Mooseknuckles said:
I’m an about 4 hours south of you, we have a couple spots on state land to get out to 1000 plus. We leave our t post and most people don’t mess with them. We have one spot we can get to 1875 but it’s on my buddy’s property. The Weyco land is a no go for shooting. Need a permit to access. If you ever make it down this far south let me know and I can take you out to some good shooting spots.
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Thanks so much, I’m not getting out there till next year but I’ll definitely hit you up. I’m excited to get to shoot in the mountains and not just flat ranges like in the SE
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Shooting on BLM Land/National Forrest - Wa State

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I’m an about 4 hours south of you, we have a couple spots on state land to get out to 1000 plus. We leave our t post and most people don’t mess with them. We have one spot we can get to 1875 but it’s on my buddy’s property. The Weyco land is a no go for shooting. Need a permit to access. If you ever make it down this far south let me know and I can take you out to some good shooting spots.
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Short Barrel Ranch Rifle Cartridge Choice

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DRAKENBURG said:
The minimum barrel length to get 100% powder burn out of a 6.5CM is 21", and the smaller Creedmoor calibers like .25cal, 6mm and 22 cal will need longer barrels. If you want to go shorter than 21", the 308Win will be best if you want maximum energy on target and are okay with a bit of recoil. If you want low recoil and okay with less energy on target, then .223.

100% Powder burn in my opinion is the most under discussed topic in rifle shooting at the moment. If you are not burning 100% of the powder, you are just creating additional recoil for absolutely no benefit. At the same time you have lower accuracy potential and fouling up suppressors more than need be.

Companies are constantly following what the market wants, not needs. Hence the reason you see so many sub 24" magnum rifles out there.
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I agree, more blast and recoil is true as well as worse es/sd. Plenty of big name factory and custom guns are putting in work while not burning 100% in the barrel. The owners of said rifles could care less 2 or 5% escaped.

You DO gain velocity running a 6creed vs a 6BR at 16". At 400yd the es/sd won't be a problem. Unless it is subsonic they all have plenty of blast.
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Sumac has entered the chat

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So I’ve got about an acre that’s full of sumac. I recently cut down what was in a 75’ circle. They’re mostly 1-2” diameter so nothing big.

Ever since, they’re spreading like wild fire.

They’re popping up in my grass as fast as I can cut them down.

I think they’re related to the coyote family and know that the population is down so they’ve increased production.

Trying to get rid of it, I’ve tried burning and the 41% glyphosate shit that you’re “supposed” to mix like 16:1 with water. I went about 50/50 because I’m done being nice.

The glyphosate works on the stuff that I can see, but in two days there will be new growth right next to the shit I sprayed.

Have any of you found a way to kill it off?
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Suppressor with a brake on it, does it help or not?

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redneckbmxer24 said:
A typical suppressor will reduce recoil by about 30% and a suppressor with a brake about 40%.

The brakes work but it’s not as dramatic as a normal brake because the muzzle pressure is obviously way lower.
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So.... 40% is 33.3% higher than 30%. That's fucking huge.

Of course, in your typical fashion, this is also a complete and total fabrication. I've seen them tested with recoil testing equipment, and the difference produced is inside the margin of error of the testing equipment, so the difference is statistically irrelevant.

Did you know that 67% of statistics are totally fabricated on the spot?
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Maggie’s Funny & awesome pics, vids and memes thread (work safe, no nudity)

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Dead Eye Dick said:
I have no idea what kind of a mushroom this little fellow is. spreading it all over the internet so if you see it elsewhere, I’m the guilty party.

Found him while planting flowering trees along our drive this morning. Not a big fan of mushrooms but this one is so different.

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Seen any chicoms in your AO?
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