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you can't make this shit up.

An entitled passenger triggered chaos on a plane when she blocked the aisle and refused to move while others were trying to disembar​
The flight attendant, trying to de-escalate the conflict, suggested the woman step aside and wait for her daughter to make her way to the front.
'Why they can't let her come pass?' she snapped back, as passengers jumped in once again, trying to explain that she came from the back of the plane, and it would make no sense for her daughter to cut through as well.​

Not a woman, but a Amish Gorilla! (y)
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Maximum distance you can reliably first-shot impact 1MOA, 1/2MOA target?

100% agreed, just illustrating that from a pretty stable position, with environmental information likely already figured out, less than 25% of high level shooters can hit a 1.5 MOA target at 400 yards 10 times in a row. This is a simple practical application example.
I posted this and have a separate post opening up Benchrest / F-Class average performance and group sizes at 100 yards, but it's been taking more time that I initially thought to find good references. World records and match winners aren't really the info that best applies to this. I can say that my observation of PRS and NRL Hunter zeroing day targets, less than 1/2 of all competitors I have observed will put the first shot within 1/2" of the aiming point. Lots of variables within that, but I don't think that there are a lot of people out there that would bet $1,000 on getting a first round impact on a 1/2" target at 100 yards over multiple days. Whatever the percentage of takers, I believe that the success rate of even 1 MOA targets dips significantly with each 100 yard increase, just from the unknown wind effect.

A 0.1 MRAD error in wind is right around 0.35 MOA. Inside the gun number range, wind that shifts from 10:30 to 11:30 alone on a 6MPH gun will be almost 0.1 MRAD difference. A 3 MPH wind error will be right around 0.1 MRAD difference. The further away from the target we are, without down-range wind speed and direction data, the higher the probability of an error in speed and direction. This is all also assuming that range to target is correct.

Due to the above, I believe that focusing on gun/ammo/shooter performance at 100 yards will give a better indication of performance than anything further, and that longer ranges for working/evaluating wind and other practical skills compared to that 100 yard gun/ammo/shooter baseline performance will paint a better picture. I do not think that 1 or 0.5 MOA target cold-bore shots at anything past about 100 yards is in the same kind of performance evaluation as front-squatting 440 on demand.

to piggy back on this, there is a lot more error potential from lighting/environmental factors than most people are aware or give credit to...things that they adjust for on the zero range, and then throw the rest of their dope off once conditions change or they change direction of fire. its why you see so many people chasing their tails with zero/dope all the time. if the zero range has bad lighting or mirage and shifts the shooters zero 0.2mil high and they adjust for it....now they move to another stage/direction of fire/different mirage, theyre going to be 0.2mil high because there was no actual physical change with rifle/scope zero.

you can see some really weird things early morning or late evening when the sun gets low depending on terrain and direction of fire in relation to it. variable cloud cover can also get tricky

id be willing to bet the vast majority of shooters have a zero with a built in bias for the location they zero'd and arent even aware of it...whether its slight wind, lighting, mirage, etc. And also the shooting position...think of the % of shooters that say they have a different zero for prone vs bench vs positional. when they get to a new location, possibly with a different bias...the question is whether that bias stacks and gets worse, or they get lucky and it happens to cancel out so they dont notice anything is off

Official Mark 7 Apex10/Revolution **All things Mark 7 Thread**

Been running a Mk7 for awhile and it's been a learning curve...

The Primer Xpress was a joke. Never worked correctly. Replaced it with a Hit Factor collator, what a god send. Highly recommended.

Hated the Mk7 power checker, pulled powder out of the cases and made a mess. Replaced it with a laser powder checker along with a different laser bullet checker. The original laser sensor is a shit-show involving a mirror, gross adjustment screws and you always bump it out of alignment while working around the shell plate.

I also HIGHLY suggest the range panda CNC bullet feeder adjustment to replace the BS factory Mr. Bullet feeder shim system. The engineer at MBF should be kicked in the dick for that abortion.

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He "learned this in SERE school"! Holy crap this guy is legit. We need to get his thoughts on the ballistics surrounding Charlie Kirk's assassination.


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Obesity must be a family trait. A middle aged guy with a few extra pounds, no problem. A “leader” who is obviously obese; equals a deeply personally compromised and untrustworthy individual. If they cannot restrain themselves from becoming a fat sack of shit, they probably cannot meet any other difficult goal without behind the scenes issues.
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Remember when “Global Warming “ caused the Palisades fire ?


I think they found the person that caused so much “warming “ it was a mostly peaceful but fiery fire .

Is Arson/ domestic terrorism the same as climate change ?
The NPCs have long ago completed their knowledge intake for this news item. The truth is irrelevant to them. The original story has morphed into long established lore in their memory banks.
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This one of my favorite stands,been hunting this spot since i was a kid, with good success, but if you don't walk in, in 5he dark, they for sure will spot you. Its 1 mile from the house i grew up in, and about a 300 yard walk from where I usually park. There's a cemetery about 3 miles in the direction of this picture, thats good, and there's a ditch i walk in, as long as the water is down
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I always wore a metric ton of bug spray, and then just hunted into the wind (although never purposefully for coyotes). If you don't have the open land that allows for that though, then it is a worthless idea.
I have about 40k acres of rice farms to hunt, there's a ton of coyotes, but hard to hunt. There's not may tree lines or woods to sneak in on. I have been trying to get more land in hill country, they are definitely easier to hunt there.
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Maximum distance you can reliably first-shot impact 1MOA, 1/2MOA target?

100% agreed, just illustrating that from a pretty stable position, with environmental information likely already figured out, less than 25% of high level shooters can hit a 1.5 MOA target at 400 yards 10 times in a row. This is a simple practical application example.
I posted this and have a separate post opening up Benchrest / F-Class average performance and group sizes at 100 yards, but it's been taking more time that I initially thought to find good references. World records and match winners aren't really the info that best applies to this. I can say that my observation of PRS and NRL Hunter zeroing day targets, less than 1/2 of all competitors I have observed will put the first shot within 1/2" of the aiming point. Lots of variables within that, but I don't think that there are a lot of people out there that would bet $1,000 on getting a first round impact on a 1/2" target at 100 yards over multiple days. Whatever the percentage of takers, I believe that the success rate of even 1 MOA targets dips significantly with each 100 yard increase, just from the unknown wind effect.

A 0.1 MRAD error in wind is right around 0.35 MOA. Inside the gun number range, wind that shifts from 10:30 to 11:30 alone on a 6MPH gun will be almost 0.1 MRAD difference. A 3 MPH wind error will be right around 0.1 MRAD difference. The further away from the target we are, without down-range wind speed and direction data, the higher the probability of an error in speed and direction. This is all also assuming that range to target is correct.

Due to the above, I believe that focusing on gun/ammo/shooter performance at 100 yards will give a better indication of performance than anything further, and that longer ranges for working/evaluating wind and other practical skills compared to that 100 yard gun/ammo/shooter baseline performance will paint a better picture. I do not think that 1 or 0.5 MOA target cold-bore shots at anything past about 100 yards is in the same kind of performance evaluation as front-squatting 440 on demand.
I shoot a lot of Rimfire, so normal environmental effects on Centerfire results at 300 and under seem almost irrelevant, outside of BR/F class. The shooting position is an absolutely critical part of this discussion. Add in a competitive time limitation and those 2 things completely overshadow any other impact on results. Apples to apples is important. Without time pressure and in a position chosen by the shooter 1 MOA is not unreasonable. This group was shot with a T3x in 6.5CM using S&B 142gr HPBT off the bench using a 1-8x Cabelas cheapie at 400 yds using an old wobbly free bipod. 6 shots by my 13 yr old. Less than 100 CF trigger pulls in his life at this point.

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PortaJohn

you can't make this shit up.

An entitled passenger triggered chaos on a plane when she blocked the aisle and refused to move while others were trying to disembar​
The flight attendant, trying to de-escalate the conflict, suggested the woman step aside and wait for her daughter to make her way to the front.
'Why they can't let her come pass?' she snapped back, as passengers jumped in once again, trying to explain that she came from the back of the plane, and it would make no sense for her daughter to cut through as well.​

Not a woman, but a Amish Gorilla! (y)

Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

Because lobbyists “are” us. And it’s a First Amendment Right to speak to and to petition the gummint as an individual or on behalf of people.

I don’t have time to go to Washington every two weeks to tell my representatives what’s on my mind.

But I can join organizations that will do it for me. Representing personal and professional interests. And when millions are in those organizations, they speak with some clout!

The problem arises when the lobbying is massively funded for issues that go against the wishes of the American people. Or go against their best interests in the pursuit of profits. Or represent an ideology that is counter to American Constitutional Republic laws (especially when it misleads its “members” with one message and its executives push another (AARP, Unions, AMA — all massively socialist and woke).

Though remember… when it comes to big business… with those profits come jobs, factories, tax revenue and economic strength as well as return for shareholders, who are also “the people.” But then it also can come with “let us pay slave wages, dump waste in rivers and it’s ok if those gas tanks explode or we get a few flipper kids for our miracle drug.”

I’m not against lobbying. It is one of the miracles of our system. I am against lobbying when it is huge money being used as a weapon against the best interests or the wishes of the vast majority of Americans. And when it buys votes. And when it is being hidden (ie all that USAID money and Green New Deal money and Covid Relief money was channeling back into one party’s coffers… and that one party was determined to fundamentally change America… by destroying it.

And this is not to say that tiny minority opinion should not be represented by lobbying. Heck, it should Especially be represented by lobbying in a republic. But when huge activist $$$ is making tiny minority opinion look like grassroots mass approval (astroturfing) it should be made clear to the American People and to our Representatives what it really is. So they can ignore it or shut it down as fraud.

That’s how transparency works. Or should work.

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Well said. But it seems to me lobbying doesn't scale well. A lobby will always grow, and money (what makes them function) will always manipulate their actions...therefore, I'm saying the corruption is inherent in the process.

Do you think 100% transparency in funding is realistic? It would require politicians (trying to get rich) and lobbies (trying to make them rich) telling us exactly where all the money is coming from. Hiding the source of money is easier than hiding its existence all together.

Given the ease of communication today, could our representatives get back to actually speaking (phone, stream, town-halls in THEIR district/state, etc.) with their constituents instead of being busy getting wined, dined, vacationed, and their next campaign funded (another issue...term limits!) by said perpetually-corrupted lobbies leveraging their greed and desire to stay in office?

The first struggle is obviously finding a moral and ethical non-psychopath to elect...which highlights the real issue, that you and I are discussing subtle differences in fighting symptoms of the same disease.