Weight?

SRPowah said:

None of the above.
How is Craddock not on the list?

Most of those are unlikely to disappoint tbh.

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oldrifleman said:

Yeah Craddock Bartlein is my go to.

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Dang. I meant to put Craddock on there. My biggest concern there is waiting 8-10 months. They are my first choice too but the lead time kinda kills it for me.

B4forever said:

How about the Geissele SPR? Cut rifled/$450

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I was looking at this one but couldn’t find one in stock anywhere.

GBMaryland said:

Pilot Theory:

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LeMay theory:



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Closest reasoning i would believe in is the stats that folks are not forming relationships at all and much has to do with carrer and school aspirations of modern women , study till 26-28, then chase career till their 40's when they realise their time is up.

Lawless said:

Waiting til his Bday in December is going to be difficult


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I picked up the stainless steel version of that for my son a week before he was born. I ordered it as soon as we found out we were having a boy.

mosin46 said:

have no dog in this fight but have always believed that the companies that make suppressors are complicit in the NFA BS. in my limited knowledge,i see no reason that these are priced so high ie despite the gov rip off. there is no real open competition in the biz. if it was opened up like guns,ammo,scopes,mags competition would seem to be increased as a guy could have tried several,decided and posted what works best for him. when you have 4-500$s in something,dumping it when it is a POS is tough as is admitting it. look at scope numbers,prices and resulting wide open everywhere competition.

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Exactly , without tax stamp costs , 300$ centerfire and 100$ rimfire suppresors would become quite common not to mention vendors offering them , massively cutting into SC market and overhead.

We have unregulated suppressors and so everyone can and does sell them there is no chance for such business model

These are splitting because of the case drawing operation had a problem. The brass gets thin on one side and this happens. It happens to EVERY brand of ammo. Some it just happens more often. Most people don't reload and don't pick up their brass so they would never know about it

hafejd30 said:

Seeing some chatter that Vudoo closed up shop

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Dead Eye Dick said:

Four weeks, Six weeks, Eight weeks, a dollar
All who doubt the future of Vudoo, stand up and holler.

(Paraphrased high school cheer from the 1960’s

I hate to be a doubter, but it’s hard to be optimistic over this situation.

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So, I've been following this Vudoo mess a few days now since it showed up on my radar. Wow, sure have learned a lot about how things ran at Vudoo between this and Mike's thread. Since, like everybody else, I couldn't seem to get a hold of the Vudoo people I contacted Three Sigma manufacturing, the company who basically builds the Vudoo action (not technically, they just make all the parts that matter but effectively the same thing.) What I learned from the CEO of Three Sigma is that he has been on the phone with Vudoo ownership within the day and that they are planning to continue selling Vudoo .22lr actions and rifles after the move to OK. Furthermore, as many know, Three Sigma also manufactures the same .22lr action for MPA for their Matrix Pro Rimfire rifle and that relationship is also ongoing.

Of course, Vudoo and MPA are Three Sigma's customers so he did not go further into their buisness relationship. I did ask if he ever intended to sell direct to the public and, unsurprisingly given they are a pretty large scale aerospace manufacturer, that is not a buisness model they are interested in. So, you can expect to continue to see Vudoo type .22lr actions come out of Three Sigmas shop and be sold through Vudoo and MPA.

Obviously, I am less than impressed with the way Vudoo seems to be handeling the move, their former employees, and their communications with their customers, especially those with currently ongoing orders. Their PR, if they didn't fire all those people, also evidently has a complete lack of basic google alerts as they are blowing up and have issued no response at all. I also don't love when "investors" show up anywhere as a general rule. However, I do not anticipate an extended time where you won't be able to buy these actions with the quality of manufacture the Three Sigma is putting in to them, a quality that, from what I have seen, has been maintained despite all the turbluance on the retail side.

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akmike47 said:

Thing couldn’t hold up the bitches @Dirty D fucks

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Agreed, your mom would turn that thing into toothpicks faster than you can make $5 at the Flying J.

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BuildingConceptsllc said:

It's hard to beat the mpx all around for me but the MP5 will always be king of the hill.

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That's the inconvenient truth I'm reluctant to accept. Out of the box it needs an upgraded trigger, handguard, and optics rail just to be competitive with modern weapons. Call me one of the poors, but I just don't see $2,500.

I'm leaning towards the 8" Banshee. Maybe the new FE models will have solved issues from the previous generation, or maybe the SP5 clones are worth a look.

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