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Long Action feeding Short Cartridges (AICS)

But the question is which metal mag? Accurate mag offers one already set for 308 feed lips. But their follower sucks and wobbles all over because the follower isn’t CIP length. Perhaps a magnum magazine with feed lip adjustments from a place like MDT might be better.

As it stands, the market offerings (including follower/spring/spacer kits) for multi-caliber setups with long actions and CIP chassis/bottom metal is virtually non-existent and there is tons of room for improvement with magazine reliability. That said, I realize the market itself is rather small because half the small group of people interested are probably going with Barrett, AI, or Cadex anyway.

But once I have some spare time I’m planning to draw up a 3D model for a spacer for the 308 CIP accurate mag. It will just require trimming the follower back towards the spring and some test and analysis for the angle/height of a slight ramp built into the spacer.

I’m also going to look into an external front spacer for the Magpul 30-06 mag with a built in very very slight ramp that overlaps with the top of the front of the mag. I’m much less confident about that one, but will likely try it still.
What purpose would the spacer serve? Just a little food for thought:

I made a spacer kit for AW and AICS for a number of years and offered it for sale. The AICS kit was a spring, follower, and spacer and it had enough clever engineering in it that we got 2 utility patents issued on it. There was a cheap knockoff that pervaded the market because it was cheap and they were sold as a 3D printed product for a while before MDT basically copied that one and brought it to market in a turn key setup. We still sold several thousand kits based on the number of springs that I have ordered over the years.

The AW kit was resoundingly simple, it was just a spacer that used the factory flat spring and a trimmed follower to run Dasher and BR cartridges in the body. Anyone with a dremel, razor, or hacksaw could modify it. However, since it required modification of the factory follower and that modification was not reversible virtually nobody bought them even at $10 for the spacer due to not being able to turn the mag back into a standard setup.

On a long action there was no necessity in any of my personal rifles or rifles built for customers to require a spacer to properly feed 308's in a long action. It also works fine for Mausers and Tikkas as well as internal boxes. It was just needed for the super short Dashers and Grendel case bodies.

I think it was Cadex and AI that both offered a setup to change the bolt stop position and swap in a spacer for LA chassis to be able to run SA mags in a LA for swap barrel setups. Maybe Sako did as well, I don't recall for sure now. Perhaps you see a niche product slot that we didn't identify back in 2015 and 2016 when the development and patent work was being done.
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Elk Hunting Rifles, What are you Using?

Alamo Precision Rifles

Caliber: 7PRC

Barrel: Proof Research Sendero 24”

Action: APR VL

Bottom Metal: APR BDL

Trigger: Trigger Tech Special

Stock: AG Composites Carbon Fiber Ferrata

Optic: Leupold MK4 LR/T 6.5-20x50mm

Ammo: Federal Premium Terminal Ascent 170gr MV 2971fps
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Winchester Pre-64 FW shipped from the factory in 1954

Caliber: 300 Holland and Holland Magnum

Barrel: Winchester Featherweight OEM 26”

Action: OEM

Bottom Metal: OEM

Trigger: OEM

Stock: OEM Walnut with some internal tweaks.

Optic: Leupold Mk5 HD 3.8-18

Ammo: Handloaded (because factory loads aren't a thing) Barnes TTSX 180gr MV 2995 fps



With this load, it shoots like a custom $5k rifle. Nicknamed it Bug Spray. . . . . . . It kills on contact.

Any Auto Technicians Here?

1) There is no "central computer" on a modern car; in fact, quite the opposite (it's a distributed network).

2) Many of those modules are indeed pretty frickin important. Because of this, virtually every electronic module is protected against reverse voltage (-14VDC for 60 sec per ISO 16750-2 4.7) and either will not draw current (diodes are a remarkable invention) or will pop fuses as protection.

Alternators are notable exceptions - maybe the fusible link pops, or maybe one or more rectifier diodes blow (we joke that this is desirable in order to protect the fuse).

Since he didn’t tell us what it is or year… I didn’t assume Canbus…. But I get your point.

That said, I had a wonderful 1998 MB 300SL. The last of the straight six wedge drop tops. It does over the winter and so I sent to the dealer to start it. They must have jumped it wrong because their explanation was “all 5 computers failed simultaneously and sorry, it is 2 weeks out of MB Certified used warranty. That will be $5k please.

The Conti-R Bentley I had and sold last year… if you jump started it with the drivers dooor open, it would fry the main computer. New ones in 1998 were $30,000. Fortunately there is now a guy in NJ who uses a Subaru computer, wipes it and puts in new code. So if you zorch your Turbo Bentley it’s only a cheap $5k or so now!

But, yeah, probably todays cars are better protected.

That said, I never even attached a trickle charger without taking the battery posts off! And cut off the main switch before reconnecting. Paranoia runs deep!!!
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Optics Vortex Impact 4000

As in the Header, selling a Vortex Impact 4000, Like new, mounted on rifle but never used. comes all accessories form factory include origenal box.

Asking 1000$ OBO.... Be fair($2000.00 NEW). Not really interested in trades.

PayPal Friendly, you can use F&F, or Services( You pay the 3% fee.) Im ok with either one.

Buyer Responsible for Shipping......
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Optics WWT/Zco

Hey guys want to trade i have a like new ZCOw rings I took on trade model- ZC527 5-27x56 MIL WR,RETICLE-MPCT 2, ITEM#-60000003. It has a few safe rub marks nothing permeant. I am looking for a like new MH25w pvs 14 box would make up w cash for duals. Also want to try a S&B w tremor 3 or H59 ret. and possible night force w H59 or trem 3. May also look at SIGs new thermal clip-on. Keep prices the same ie if what you have is less then a couple scopes or cash to make up difference.If you want pics shoot me your cell w pics of your trade.I have done 1000s in trade here with no problems i can travel within reason from the Bozeman MT area.Have a good one. Stay savage boys we will be hunting humans soon.

Josh
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Tell him to use an AAA gun to get his point across

To me they walked off their jobs, is Texas that blue now the people will put up with that? Seems to me a recall election should be started & now that many of the "voters" have been removed from the rolls or ability to cast a vote, things could go differently? Or is the blue that deep?
Not far from it. Texas will go blue soon, if not the next election the following. The 6 cities that rule are packed with hispanics looking for free shit.

I heard somewhere they're considering renaming Austin to 'Nuevo San Francisco'.

Yes they will vote them back in. Every time.

Obama could fuck a baby on live TV and Steve Colbert would praise him and celebrate the act.
He would just be jealous that he wasnt getting any O'dick.
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CCI pistol match

I don't shoot groups for proof of accuracy.
Groups lie to me.
Makes me look like I am doing better than I am.
Groups wander relative to point of aim.
Actual target aggregate group size is 2 or 3 times average group size.
For that reason, shooting for score is my method of conparing accuracy.
For that reason, I reiterate:

No rifle can fix poorly made ammunition.

No ammunition can fix a poorly made rifle.

No two cartridges are identical as they roll off the assembly line.

Cartridge quality/uniformity determines results.


Try shooting for score with your rifle's "preferred" ammunition.
Not groups. What happens when punching center?
Inexpensive cartridges can't get the job done.
Too much velocity variation, too many strays.
Try it, 50 yards, for score. Compare results.
Actually most of us have had experience with great lots of relatively inexpensive ( SK, wolf, ect, not “bucket bullets”) that shot really well and some expensive rounds that were shit ( Eley Ultra long range ). What’s lying to you about groups that they are telling you a different story than what you think they are. Both tell you about ammo consistency, groups are about maintaining a zero over the span of 5 shots. Score is about first shot precision. A great shooter with top shelf gear can shoot both really well. Ah well we will continue to disagree but can both say that there is joy in putting rounds down range.
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