Latest activity

Hot Threads

Latest activity

 Posts Forum list
 

Filter

LPVO-second focal options

Rob01
Petro712 said:
TonyAngel-

Thanks for the detailed response outlining why you made the decision you did. As I’ve been scouring the web for options to test and evaluate, it’s obvious several others feel the same way you do about the Gen II Razor 1-6. It’s an optic that sets the bar high for other manufacturers.

The optics you use are all well outside the criteria laid out for my consideration. The ACOG is a fixed power, not variable. The NX8 is first focal, not second. The recommended Delta Stryke scopes are MIL based.

When administrations like to see “options” before a selection is made, I like to compare a minimum of three. Right now the Gen II Razor 1-6 (VMR-2) and Tango6T 1-6 (HELLFIRE MOA) are the only two that meet the criteria I laid out in my initial post. Ikeman83 suggested the Kahles 16i (SI1) and that may just be the third option. The capped mil dials will likely be ignored outside of adjusting a zero, so an exemption to the selection criteria could be justified.
Click to expand...

What you putting it on and use? I have had Razors for about 12 years now on my ARs and it’s a great optic in your specs. Used it for a few years in 3 gun and more for just fun range use. Been tossed in many barrels at matches and no issues so I know it’s tough but if there was and I slammed it into something harder than I should or drop it then I know I am covered which is great also.

IMG_0204.jpeg
IMG_0206.jpeg
IMG_0205.jpeg
Click to expand...

Do you drink anything while shooting?

Basic user
JerkyFreak said:
Recomended by who and how did they get to that recommendation?

Secondly, not all sodium is the same, else sodium bicarbonate would give you the same increased blood pressure as sodium chloride. (It doesn't)

On cold days, coffee. On warm days, water mixed with whatever isotonic sports drink I feel like. After shooting, the coldest beer I can find.
Click to expand...
By who? Trained athletic coaches. Where do THEY get their info from? Where does ANYONE get their info from? College degrees in sports medicine? Where do THEY get their info from? The proven bad actors of the USDA or FDA? I dont know lol. And I dont know ANYONE that takes in too much sodium bicarbonate lol.
It's also already proven MOST of us (that dont grow our own food, and livestock) take in too much sodium. It's not hard to verify that. Salt is in EVERYthing. EVERY thing. Too much of it too. It's how most food is processed.
Click to expand...

Ukraine war Bullshit.

L
Gunfighter14e2 said:
Everything I've seen in the last 3-4 hrs says this attack on Russia might be the straw that brings two things to a head. First what trump is,... NOT,.. saying to Putin. And second the final war with the left & nwo may be on the table, with nothing off limits. Pray the deep state here, gets totally decapitated as well.

I see Trump giving the go ahead to some people disappearing, while getting his popcorn ready to watch what the Russia does to the ukes while saying,... Oh that looks bad.
Click to expand...
This was another attempt to cause Russia to misstep, overreact and pull NATO in. Just like the Taurus missiles. If I can see it, surely everyone else can. We live in dangerous times. I wonder if Trump’s call with Putin was a move to de-escalate.
Click to expand...

Liberal goes back in time to fix the 2nd ammendment

Blue Sky Country
That was BRILLIANT! I am sending and reposting this so many times it is gonna be absurd LOL. And the Handmaid bit at the very end... :ROFLMAO:

ETA: If that happened IRL, the Founders would summon guards, have her trussed up and shipped off first to a prison hulk for the duration of the war so she does not interfere with the war effort, and then relocated to a state-run Home For the Mentally Feeble afterwards. :ROFLMAO:
Click to expand...

Oh no! Another cop thread

Maggot
Like all other groups, cops exist on a curve. On one end youve got true saints, individuals who would run into a burning house, or frozen river, because thats the kind they are. Or like the one in the video will go out of his way to help you.

On the other end, you've got the true devils, the ones who shame their badge and even the air they breathe.

Most fall somewhere in between.

I lived in Virginia most of my life and knew a few Troopers. My uncle was one. Mostly good men doing a job. Those I've encountered in Kansas and Arkansas are a different breed...more akin to:

Skunks.
Click to expand...
  • Like
Reactions: diverdon

Flush cup considerations?

Channelkat
Can you experienced folks share your thinking/ considerations regarding flush cup type (when you use Full rotation, Limited, or Nonrotating cups?) and mount locations?

I have seen folks mount them on both sides of the bolt, sometimes with rear swivel high, mid and low on the stock. Usually see the front mount toward the front of the stock, but have also seen them mounted toward the rear of the forearm and being used to grip the sling as a shooting aid.

I am about to add some QD flush cups to a bolt hunting rifle. I have very limited experience with them and have always had my sling mounted in the traditional location. Figured you folks could steer me toward the most comfortable/ practical setup.
Click to expand...

Optics Vortex Viper PST Gen 2 5-25x50 *Price Drop*

Bowhntr4life
Like new Vortex Viper PST Gen 2 5-25x50 FFP MOA rifle scope with illumination in EBR-2C MOA Reticle. Comes with everything mounted on the scope as well. Will trade for the right Leupold or Vortex LHT. Can add cash as well.
$650 buys it
Click to expand...

Attachments

  • IMG_8873.jpeg
    IMG_8873.jpeg
    1.5 MB · Views: 66
  • IMG_8874.jpeg
    IMG_8874.jpeg
    2.5 MB · Views: 61
  • IMG_8875.jpeg
    IMG_8875.jpeg
    2.5 MB · Views: 61

LPVO-second focal options

P
TonyAngel said:
Bud, the question you're asking has a VERY subjective answer. I tore my hair out for over a year trying to find the perfect LPVO for me. I own or have owned every LPVO worth trying from about $2500 on down.

I have two main rigs. On one I run a TA11 ACOG with a Holosun on top and on the other a Nightforce NX8. My reasons for chosing those are subjective. From an objective point of view, considering things like field of view, the view through the objective, clarity of glass and robustness of build, I've gotta say that, for the money, the Gen II 1-6 Razor is still the one to beat.

Honestly, but for being a little heavy, I think an argument can be made for the 1-6 Gen II PST. At $500-$600, it's a heck of a scope.

In the end, I chose the ACOG for its simplicity, glass quality, size and weight, not to mention that it's bullet proof. I chose the NX8 for it's robustness of build, size, weight and glass quality. I did make sacrifices going with the NX8. Smaller field of view and tighter eye box, but it does what I need and it's so small that it doesn't get in the way.

Still, everytime I pick up my Razor, or even the PST, I'm amazed at what a shooter's optic each is. I see them as no compromise optics for their respective price ranges, at the expense of size and/or weight.

I'd start with a Razor in mind and make a list of those things you don't like about it, then find something that doesn't have those offending attributes and then decide what compromises you're willing to make. I was willing to compromise on eye box and field of view to get into something smaller and lighter.

If you don't mind the weight, the Razor is likely your answer. It may not be the absolute best choice, but it's rarely the wrong choice. It is an absolute joy to shoot with. There are two things that I don't like about it. The first is the weight, but it is what it is. The second is that it has a wire reticle. I prefer an etched reticle.

Oh, check out the Delta Stryke HD as well. Same scope as the Credo HX, but has an available mil reticle. I think the Razor is a better scope, but the Stryker is like $600 or so cheaper.

If you just want to dip your toe, find a used PST. Odds are that you'd be fine with it. Excellent 1x and good 6x. The only time I don't like mine is when I throw it on a 12.5 rig, adding almost 29 ounces and then throw on the light and suppressor and then have to carry it all around.
Click to expand...
TonyAngel-

Thanks for the detailed response outlining why you made the decision you did. As I’ve been scouring the web for options to test and evaluate, it’s obvious several others feel the same way you do about the Gen II Razor 1-6. It’s an optic that sets the bar high for other manufacturers.

The optics you use are all well outside the criteria laid out for my consideration. The ACOG is a fixed power, not variable. The NX8 is first focal, not second. The recommended Delta Stryke scopes are MIL based.

When administrations like to see “options” before a selection is made, I like to compare a minimum of three. Right now the Gen II Razor 1-6 (VMR-2) and Tango6T 1-6 (HELLFIRE MOA) are the only two that meet the criteria I laid out in my initial post. Ikeman83 suggested the Kahles 16i (SI1) and that may just be the third option. The capped mil dials will likely be ignored outside of adjusting a zero, so an exemption to the selection criteria could be justified.
Click to expand...
Load more
Top Bottom
Back
Home
Forums
Merch
Alerts