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9mm Lehigh 90gr Xtreme Defender and 115gr Xtreme Penetrator Loading

Ive been reading a lot about these 2 bullets lately. More so the 9mm Lehigh Defense 90gr Xtreme Defender loaded by Underwood in their 9mm 90gr +P Xtreme Defender ammo..

I also have been reading the crazy penetration the 9mm +9 115gr Xtreme Penetrator ammo for hiking/fishing/backwoods carry that penetrated over 30" in gel..

I decided to grab 200 of each to play with and see how they performed out of my guns..

I used Lehigh's Load Data page as a starting point. I decided to start with Power Pistol under the 90gr Xtreme Defender and Longshot under the 115gr Xtreme Penetrator.

All loads were loaded in new factory primed Norma 9mm brass that I ran through my Dillon carbide sizing die (no decapper pin) then run into my Mighty Armory 9mm flare die.

I fired everything at 10yd standing (no rest) over my Garmin Xero out of my SIG P320 Daniel Horner with DPP.


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New Norma primed brass
90gr Xtreme Defender
Power Pistol
1.105" COAL

6.0 - 1329 SD 9
6.2 - 1345 SD12
6.4 - 1369 SD 18
6.6 - 1385 SD 12
6.8 - 1407 SD 7


For comparison, factory ammo with same bullet...

Underwood 9mm
90gr Xtreme Defender
1400

Underwood 9mm
90gr +P Xtreme Defender
1475

Top end charges are right there with the Underwood standard pressure ammo with good accuracy. I have to work up a little more or switch to a different powder to get the Underwood +P velocity of 1475..... Doing some research, Underwood uses Silhouette in their ammo....

Its crazy how there was virtually zero recoil with all of these loads. Shot great, and zero recoil. I may switch from my go to 147 HST factory load to these 90gr Xtreme Defenders. The wound channel is nasty on the testing Ive seen and penetration is 18" meeting FBI requirements...


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New Norma primed brass
115gr Xtreme Penetrator
Longshot
1.10" COAL

5.1 - 1045 SD 14
5.3 - 1083 SD 24
5.5 - 1129 SD 19
6.7 - 1133 SD 20


For comparison, factory ammo with same bullet...

Underwood 9mm
115gr Xtreme Penetrator
1150

Underwood 9mm
115gr +P Xtreme Penetrator
1275


These Underwood charges were underwhelming in speed and accuracy... Im going to bump charges up a little bit and also probably try a different powder. I want to match the 1275 Underwood +P velocities with excellent accuracy to make this my new hiking/ fishing load where brown bears arent present and can carry a 9mm vs my 10mm...

Penetration testing Ive seen shows 30" of penetration with this Underwood factory load which is awesome.


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Some more data...

My go to plinking/practice load that I run 10's of thousands on my automated Dillon that I shot today for a data point

124gr Xtreme HP
4.0gr Titegroup
mixed brass
ZSR Turkey Small Pistol Primers

1063
SD 11

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Rechambering a burnt barrel

Hi

What are your opinions on rechambering a barrel that has been burnt out?
On the range, someone suggested that a burnt barrel can simply be rechambered and used again, of course setting it back an inch or so.
Someone else also mentioned that it's not worth it since the rest of the barrel (beyond chamber) is used up as well.

I haven't switched barrels yet and this would be the first, so I thought I'll gather views before going with it.

It'll be for 6 Dasher and a 284.

Thank you

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Hawkins M5 bottom metal
MDT 10 round and 5 rounder included.

Scope, rings and bipod not included.
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Manners Colors - Actual Pics?

Hey guys,

I was browsing Manners and trying to figure out what kind of camo to put on it - well actually it's already placed my Group Buy for the PRS - TCS, which I got in Elite Tac High Plains Molded (which I don't really know what looks like). Thinking ahead if I ever do place another order, I'd like a better understanding of the colors.

Altus does a great job showcasing their colors - Login to view embedded media but Manners' website just has these little swabs that are hard to imagine.

If you guys don't mind, can you post a pic of your Manners stock and the actual color name?

Thanks in advance!

SOLD Housecleaning - NF Mounts, Rail, Troy Sights

Doing some safe cleaning. Offering for sale - all have been used. Rings have some scuffs from torquing

Nightforce 30mm Ultralight Cantilever Mount in FDE 1.54 inch $175 ($150 off retail)

Nightforce 30mm Ultralight Rings in FDE 1" $75 ($95 off retail)

Nightforce 30mm RAPI Rail Accessory in Black with under-ring $105 ($70 off retail)

Troy Off-Set AR-15 Iron Sights with Diopter 45 degrees $130 ($80 off retail at Optics Planet)

Buyer pays Fed Ex shipping (estimate $15 for ground).

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SOLD Sold Origin / Solus 20" Proof Carbon sendero 308 Prefit Barrel

Origin / Solus 20" Proof Carbon sendero Prefit Barrel. .308 10twist. 30 rounds of Norma 180gr bondstrike through it. These work for the Zermatt Origin and Aero Solus rifles.

$620 delivered takes it. Sold.

Pics coming shortly. But here is one with it on the action before it was removed.

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WTB Atlas BT65 w/ QD arca clamp, MLOK ARCA Rail

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Name your price, open to similar alternatives as well.

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SOLD WTS: Velocity Systems Plate Carrier

Selling my carrier. About 5 years old but no wear, used sparingly for range days. It is the Velocity Systems carrier with Spartan Armor Systems front, back, and side soft level IIIA armor. They are at the end of the manufacturer warranty for defects but doesn’t mean they instantly won’t work!

Asking $175 $150 for the carrier and another $125 $100 for the armor inserts, pending your state’s laws.

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