So I have been meaning to do this review for some time but life has been bonkers the last 6 months.

I wanted to highlight some of the products that @pfl338 makes that make my life easy easier.

He is a humble guy and shooting enthusiast who quietly makes awesome 3d printed products some that I have been using for several years.

If you have an AI you need to get one of his mag paddle releases. Anytime I play with another ai and it doesn't have that mag release I'm like ugh that sucks when trying to do a msg change. Yes I run it backwards as I prefer the smooth side to my finger sausage.




He makes a great trigger shoe as well. .

Lately been running his Garmin pic mount. Comes with a slot to store the Garmin mount screw.





I also have been running his sled for single loading some really long 300 NM loads.


He also makes my empty chamber indicator in orange that loads like a mag.

He also makes these awesome 8lb and 1lb powder funnels. They screw onto the jug so no more spilled retumbo. They also flip around and allow you to easily pour powder back into the jugs from the hopper.



Will update with more in a bit.

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30-06
10/09/2014

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Hornady M1 Garand load:

Hornady case
47 grains Varget
168 AMax
3.240 OAL
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GregLangeliusXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 30-06
10/10/2014 Last edited 10/10/2014 by GregLangelius

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Garand 150gr Ball Equivalent Load:

My load originally from the NRA Garand Rifle Reprint:

50.0gr IMR-4064

I use Rem or Win brass and FL resize, primer is any basic (Boxer) Large Rifle Primer.

HDY 150gr #3037 FMJBT (With cannelure) seated in proper alignment with the cannelure.

This is my source for Garand Enbloc Clips.

This is a very satisfactory Repro Garand Rifle Belt.

Greg
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Re: 30-06
10/11/2014
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30-06, have no idea, 6.5-06 is where it's at. Sorry here, just making 1st post, carry on.
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Re: 30-06
10/12/2014

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I tested another load today. This time with 168 SMK, and 168 Barnes TTSX.

FC brass
Win LR primer
48.1gr IMR 4064
COAL 3.270

Both loads shot sub MOA out of my stock Savage 111 hunter. No velocity numbers at this time. Will test when I get a chance.
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GregLangeliusXFirst Sergeant
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Re: 30-06
10/13/2014 Last edited 10/30/2014 by GregLangelius

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This load was recommended to me (168SMK) on the old site. I loaded up a bunch with 168SMK and 165SGK today, Will test tomorrow in my older M70 sporter and brand new Axis II XP.

Greg

PS This load proved outstanding in my M70 Sporter/light tactical rifle; three rounds into 2" at 250yd off a sandbag/bench. I have also loaded the same components, substituting the 165SGK, will test as time permits.

Finally had a good shooting day yesterday (Saturday), and rezeroed with the 165SGK load at 200yd. This is a very good load, at least as accurate as the 168SMK load.

Went back Tuesday and shot the 168gr SMK and 165gr SGK loads side by side. The SMK load patterned its five-group (very) slightly tighter and slightly higher and righter (within 2" each at 200) than the SGK load, which, while significant, is well within acceptable standards, especially since the POI shift is consistent and predictable. My Weaver Classic V-16 allows this to be visible and adaptable at 200yd on Shoot-n-See type targets.

Both loads handle wind very well at 200yd. I only quit because the wind was bouncing my targets around too much to aim at consistently
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Re: 30-06
10/13/2014 Last edited 10/14/2014 by 30CalCow

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178 A-max/Lapua Brass/56.2gr H4350/Fed210 Primer good for 2700fps.

Went to book max 57.5 with no pressure but inconsistent results. Settled at lower node with decent velocity and hopefully nice long brass life.

BTW I have noticed that the Sierra load manual states H4831SC as accuracy load for the 30-06 and 150/155gr bullet. I have found the Sierra accuracy loads to be on point with some other cartridges but have never found anything of the sort listed across the internet. Anyone ever give this combination a shot?
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Re: 30-06
10/15/2014

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73 R700 bdl 22"
Rem brass
FED.210M
Hybrid 100v 55.8g
hornady 178 bthp
Col:3.387
Fps.2700
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Re: 30-06
10/15/2014

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TC Venture 24in.
56.5 IMR 4350 3.35 oal 178 amax 2770 fps.
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Re: 30-06
10/15/2014

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30.06 180gr Nosler Accubond hunting load

22" REm 700 1-10 twist #4 contour Shilen Select Match

55.2gr RE-17, 3.340 OAL, Wolf LR primer, R-P Brass

2960 fps @5000' ASL, .500 3 shot groups @ 100yds





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Re: 30-06
10/16/2014

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These are Dan Newberry's OCW loads. I've had great luck with the 165 load using 168gr. Berger Classic Hunters



30-06 Springfield using IMR 4350

155 grain bullet, 58.6 grains (extrapolated from following two loads, untested as of this writing)

165 grain bullet, 57.5 grains

180 grain bullet, 56.0 grains

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Re: 30-06
10/31/2014

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Any data with the 215 hybrid?
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Re: 30-06
10/31/2014

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Any data with the 215 hybrid?

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No data but when I get my hands on some 215s and reloader 17 it will be a perfect match
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Re: 30-06
11/01/2014

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Marlin Xl7 bolt:

24" criterion barrel
Berger 185 VLD Hunting
Winchester Brass
H4350 @ 57.0grs
CCI-200 or BR2
.070" off the lands

Speed 2810avg. with great ES. I have shot this to 730 yards and will hold half moa.
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Re: 30-06
11/02/2014

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Isn't Re17 a little fast for such a heavy bullet in .30-06?
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Re: 30-06
11/03/2014

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Pre war Model 70 load

Federal case

Fed LR Match primer

55.7gr. IMR 4350

168 Berger Classic Hunter

3/4MOA in my rifle

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Re: 30-06
11/03/2014

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Isn't Re17 a little fast for such a heavy bullet in .30-06?

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There is some guys over on LRH getting some amazing velocities with 17 and the 215 hybrid and the 208 Amax.
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Re: 30-06
11/04/2014

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Looking for a starting point for H4350 and 185gr Berger VLD Hunting.
Currently using R-22 as it was the only powder I could find for a long time around here. Got my mitts on some H4350 finally.......
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Re: 30-06
11/06/2014

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Brux 24in 1:10 twist
165g Sierra HPBT GameKing
55.5g H4350
Win Large Rifle Primer
Lapua Brass

1/2in or better at 100yds
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Re: 30-06
11/07/2014

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200grn smk 52grns imr 4350 fed brass fed 215 match primer 3.34 oal.
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blg3006XCorporal
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Re: 30-06
11/07/2014

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50 grns. Imr 4064 165gr hornady btsp seated to the cannelure fed 210 primer rem brass
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Re: 30-06
11/07/2014

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I thought that was in the .308 Win. Either way, I am trying both the 208 A-Max and 215 Hybrid so I'm interested in your results.

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blg3006XCorporal
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Re: 30-06
11/07/2014

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There's a guy getting 2700fps with a moly 208grn Amax with RL 17 out of a 20 IN. Barrel 30-06!!!!
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Re: 30-06
11/10/2014 Last edited 11/17/2014 by GregLangelius

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Followup on the 168SMK/165SGK 48.1gr IMR-4064 load as of yesterday, 10/9/14.

Performed/attempted sight-in with Ruger 77 MK I and Axis II XP.

The Ruger is very happy with the load, 200yd sight-in distance prints within a 3" dot, 150yd 1-2" high, 100yd, essentially right on again.

The Axis II XP is not liking this load, nor a previous handload, nor Hornady 150gr American Whitetail. Everything is opening up to about 6"-8" at 200yd, and that's not acceptable.

I will need to go over the rifle for issues, but that's for the coming Spring; this coming Saturday is Gun Season Opening Day.

When I did the initial sight-in, I discovered the ring mounting and clamping screws were mushy tight, and secured them more positively; this could be related the issue.

Greg

PS After Action NY Southern Zone Opening W/E 9/15+16/14:

I still got skunked, but at least I got a shot at fast mover. No contact established.

Later, saw five deer moving fast at about 200yd in a drive, but had 4 drivers in the brush somewhere behind them, no shot taken.

Six hunters/six deer, three of them brown/down by my Son-in-Law. One by 91/30 7.62x54Rwith HDY 150gr SP Interlock 303 handloads, one by M77 MK I 30-06 with 165 SGK handloads, one by Mossie 500 12ga Slug. Both handloads performed quite well, both shots were closer in.
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Re: 30-06
11/22/2014 Last edited 11/23/2014 by GregLangelius

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We went back to the vineyard and hunted the same spot driving to me, as Opening Day last Saturday; and what looked like the same two does popped out of the vines about 50yd away from the last time. Took the same shot as last time; and this time, we connected, but I didn't know that at the time. Deer disappeared into the woods, and I waited the requisite 5 minutes while I went over the area where the deer was when I shot. No hair, no blood were found.

I tracked into the disturbed leaves about 50yd, but no hair, no blood anywhere. One of our young hunters RDV'd with me, and he had me stay put and began tracking. About 20yd past where I had stopped he signaled blood. and began a stealthy track. About 60ys further. the blood trail ended and the snow and ruffled leaves got chaotic; after abput 10 minutes wasted trying to pick up more blood we all came back and decided to drive the woods from the opposite end. Toward the end of the drive a small doe popped out and was taken. We went back and redrove the area the small doe came from, found mine, and dispatched same.

Dressed out, we went back to the barn, hung and skinned the two doe. Hung, it appears mine was one of the bigger deer taken so far this year, buck or doe. Guys who know more about this estimated her at around 130lb.

The shot placement was abaft of ideal. The terminal performance was very good, but nearly all of the blood was internal. We were fortunate to have eventually harvested this doe. But venison is venison, and tracking further, and persisting in the search are the lessons of the day. That's eight deer down and five were finished off by my Son-in-Law, including my doe.

A good day.

Greg
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Re: 30-06
12/06/2014

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forum.snipershide.info/showthread.php?t=15880
you're welcome
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Re: 30-06
12/19/2014

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Berger 210 gr VLD
Lake City 63 National Match Brass
50.4 gr. H4350
Winchester Large Rifle Primer
Bullet seated .003 off the rifling
Avg. velocity 2542 FPS
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Re: 30-06
12/30/2014

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Lapua D46 185gr
Winchester brass
53.4 gr H4350
CCI200 primer
COAL 3.315"

Shoots extremely well in my '68 Winchester M70 Target

Nightforce ATACR 1-8 with FC DMX reticle, dark earth color.

Great condition, well cared for. Some faint ring marks on the tube but only cosmetic, I always torque my rings to spec with fix-it-sticks.
Comes with everything pictured.

Reptilia mount available, see other listing.

$2025 shipped *Sold
Venmo or paypal

I purchased these by mistake, don't ask me how but I have 4 of them. Looking to get $25 each including shipping all 4 for $100.

SOLD

Up for grabs is a new never carried limited run HFB Pacman. I bought this a couple months back with some other knives and decided to let it go for what I have in it. The Handel has a cool burlap look to it with a lot of depth, the pics dont do it justice.

Specs:
Modified Pac-Man Tanto-Kamari Burlap micarta, CF pins, CF lanyard pin, chaos grip

6.7" overall, 3" blade, .15" thickness, S45vn steel, acid etch and rock wash finish, closed tang, rock worked spine.

375$ shipped
Comes with original box, suede lined kydex sheath and Multi-cam sticker.

Purchased a 40x action that’s US marked above the serial number and clip slotted as well as drilled and tapped for iron sights on the right rear of the action body that was from the best of my knowledge all done at the Remington custom shop and was NOS from their closure that was picked up by PTG, the entire bolt assembly is all PTG which I did myself and is a one piece bolt with small diameter firing pin, m16 style extractor and swept handle. My question is, what would this action have originally been used for?

Until I built one and used it extensively. Not sure why the thought of “if I only had only one rifle” came into my head. Who has only one rifle? It’s so optic dependent anyway. So now it’s a full on lightweight precision rifle.

Compromising sucks.

Brand new. Cole Tac HTP Suppressor Covers.

Both 1.25 inch diameter

1 - 7 inch - SOLD
1 - 8.5 inch - $85 shipped

Both for $150

ETA, got one, want another

I'd like to trade into a nice rifle tripod set up that could safely and securely support a 13-15 lb precision rifle set up - HK USPs, S&W revolvers, real West German made SIG 220's with sharp hammers, maybe optics, maybe rifles on the table depending on the rig available. Cash possible either way depending on the trade, or outright if it is a smoking deal.

Would prefer a pic rail interface for mounting the rifle on the ball but ARCA wouldn't be a deal killer.

Bigger balls better, have and like a 60mm

Note- I'm 6'2" and my sons are 6'5" - looking for something tall people can use.

I’m looking for a Kahles k525i with the skmr4 or 3 reticle and DLR would be preferred thanks

I will soon update the Hide with full review: Vortex Razor Gen III 6-36x56, Element Theos 6-36x56 and Zeiss LRP S3 6-36x56 Review



Full review here

TLDR Version

FINAL THOUGHTS​

I have been impressed with Japanese OEM scopes for quite some time, but I must admit that these new 6-36 scopes have the secret sauce, they are some of the best scopes I have seen come out of Japan optically and possibly the best I have seen from Japan to date overall. Overall, I think each of these scopes offer excellent performance per price – meaning they punch above their class while each offer some different features that different shooters will find appealing. Each of these 6-36×56 get my “best in glass” thumbs up!

So here are my personal thoughts on each of these scopes:

• Zeiss LRP S3 6-36×56: Zeiss was smart to bring this scope to market, they are brand new to the FFP world but have one of the biggest names in the industry. They started with the LRP S5 which is their premium line of scopes; however, in some ways I think I like/prefer the S3 even more than the S5, yes the S5 does have an edge optically but honestly it is not much (and maybe differentiated more in harsh lighting conditions). The turrets are outstanding, the optical quality is excellent and the overall ergonomics are really well thought out. This scope is a real winner in my book and based on its price point I feel it punches well above its class (as do the rest of the scopes here). If I were to split hairs about anything it would be the performance at 36x, while not bad the Zeiss was not able to resolve as well as the Vortex and Element at the top of the magnification, but it wasn’t by any means lacking.
• Vortex RG3 6-36×56: The RG3 comes with no surprise as to its performance as it has impressed me since day one of its release. Optically this scope holds its own with some of the best in the industry and has laid the groundwork for other manufacturers to take notice, hence the focus of this review – how well do the other OEM 6-36 designs compare. I still think the Vortex has the slight edge optically but the other scopes are very close. Coupled with the industry’s best warranty this scope is the premium choice, but it is also the most expensive out of the three.
• Element Theos 6-36×56: The surprise of this scope is the nicely engineered toolless turrets that rank very close to Tangent Theta. The feel of the turrets is also excellent giving the scope a refined feel that, coupled with the excellent optical performance, really makes this scope stand out. Element has been around for a while and has impressed with price per performance, but they do not have the market awareness as the likes of Vortex and Zeiss; however, this scope has the potential to really help with name recognition throughout the community and I could see Element gaining more brand awareness as they continue to listen to the community and deliver top quality optics at excellent price points. Speaking of listening to the community, that is one advantage the smaller manufacturer has – they are able to get boots on the ground and not only listen to what the community is asking for but also execute on that quicker.

Reiterating what I mention at the very beginning, I am biased (we all are) and I have my own preferences and this review has opinions that are influenced from that, hopefully I’ve done an adequate job throughout the review to share where my personal preference comes into play in order to help you better evaluate a particular feature. I utilize a strict testing regimen, but it is by no means perfect, always open to constructive criticism. I do not like giving numbers to any scope because there are so many factors that could affect outcomes at any given time, so any numbers I do provide are meant to be for that day and against those scopes I could test side by side. Give me the same scope on another day and it might fare a little better or a little worse due to any number of variables, not the least of which is atmospherics which are constantly changing.

One final thought, I think many manufacturers need to do better at adapting to market needs quicker, too much time and you begin to lose market share in this ever changing world of FFP sport optics. “Adapt or go home” is becoming the name of the game as the market gets more and more saturated with excellent options, and I think Vortex, Zeiss and Element have done well, very well, with these new 6-36 scopes.

I just picked up a New GA-Precision Hospitaller and my Spuhr SP-4016 Mount is way too High at 1.5" Height. So I am looking for a Spuhr SP-4001 Mount to replace it and make it the Perfect Height for my application. See Pic below.

Thanks in advance.

Anyone have a lead on AutoTrickler V3 side window panel replacements? I need another one and can’t find them anywhere.

Vortex Radian Ball Head TRH-BAL1 Color: Black, Attachment Type: Arca

Specifications​

Specifications for Vortex Radian Ball Head:​

Features​

Features of Vortex Radian Ball Head:​

• Arca-swiss head mount, independent pan movement and tension control
• Integrated level
• 45 degrees of tilt, notches for up to 90 degrees, quick release system, and counterweight hook

$190.00 shipped

Selling a Knights Armament SR-15 16" rifle with the MLOK handguard. This deal also includes everything pictured. The rifle is in unfired/new condition.

Asking $3300

Located in Rockwall, TX (DFW area). Would prefer a FTF here in Texas.

Trade interests include SR-16 KAC uppers, KAC parts, MKII marked Schmidt & Bender or Schmidt & Bender with AI caps, Accuracy International rifles, etc.

NEW....Never used
Q 8.6 Cherry Bomb
$100 plus etc from Q.

$50.00 Shipped from Me.
Venmo
PP F&F


SPECS

• WEIGHT: 3.2 oz.
• OVERALL LENGTH: 2.27 inches
• MATERIAL: 17-4 Stainless Steel
• LENGTH ADDED TO BARREL: 0.8 inches
• M18x1.5 RH TPI:
  • (8.6 BLK BORE)

Read that actor Gene Hackman yes Popeye Doyle from the French Connection films was found dead with his wife and one of their dogs in their home in New Mexico. Investigation ongoing. He and Robert Duvall are two of my favorites.

Giraud case trimmer
Includes case holders and cutter heads for .223/556, .308, .375 Cheytac, and .50 BMG.
$500 shipped.

WTB: 2 or more MDT control bridge/nv bridge for the ACC Elite Chassis. Prefer Black, but will take any color.

I decided to do a little temp stability testing today. TL;DR all 3 are temp stable.

I recently finished developing loads for my PRS gas gun in 6mm Creedmoor and N160, N555, & H4350 all gave good results with 108 ELDMs. H4350 & N555 both showed excellent velocity consistency over 20 shot samples. N160 was not quite as good as the others but was still more than acceptable. N555 and N160 showed the best dispersion results but H4350 wasn't very far behind. The best overall performer has been N555 and it's less expensive than H4350 to boot. So the only question left is temp stability since I live in Kansas and 30-40 degree swings over the course of a day or from day to day are not uncommon.

Vihtavouri lists both N160 & N555 as temp stable so I decided to see how they stack up with H4350 since that is kinda the gold standard for the Creedmoor case.

I loaded 15 rounds of each powder, froze 5, heated 5, and left 5 of each at room temperature. I would have liked larger samples but felt that 5 shot averages would be good enough since all 3 powders had shown consistent velocity during my earlier testing. I also wanted to try to test all 3 at the same temperatures or at least as close as I could get and decided that would be easier to do with smaller strings.

Test protocol: All rounds were loaded in a single session with components from the same lots.

The frozen rounds were put in a plastic bag in the freezer at -2° for 4 hours and then put in a cooler with ice for the trip to the range. The temp in the cooler was measured at 15° at firing time. Each 5 shot sample was fired less than a minute after being pulled from the cooler and the rifle was allowed to cool for several minutes in between samples.


The heated rounds were put in the dehydrator for 4 hours with it set at 115°. I wrapped them in a towel on the dash and ran the defrost every few minutes to keep them warm on the trip out and while waiting to be fired. The temperature of each sample was measured at 105° right before being pulled out for firing. Each sample was fired within a minute of being removed just like the frozen test rounds.


The room temperature rounds had been in a 68° house prior to the trip to the range and were kept in the pickup cab prior to being fired. The temp in the ammo box was measured at 76° probably due to the defrost being run. These were also fired immediately upon removal.


The test was fired by my Seekins SP10 with a 22" barrel and load data was as follows.

Starline SRP Brass
CCI 450 Primers
108 ELDM
2.200" Base to Ogive
40.0 gr H4350 (AVG 2846.4, SD 5.5, ES 24.7)
41.0 gr N555 (AVG 2840.4, SD 6.4, ES 24.3)
41.5 gr N160 (AVG 2865.2, SD 9.9, ES 43.5)

The only difference between the samples was the powder used. Listed after each powder is it's velocity performance over a 20 shot sample from my previous testing.

Ambient conditions this afternoon were mostly cloudy, 56°, and high humidity.

Results: Keep in mind these are 5 shot samples so the SDs aren't all that useful. I think the averages at least are in the ballpark of a larger sample but I would expect them to change up or down a few fps if the sample size was increased.

H4350 -
Cold 15° AVG 2854.3 SD 6.1 ES 15.6
Middle 76° AVG 2867.0 SD 4.9 ES 13.6
Hot 105° AVG 2864.8 SD 6.7 ES 17.9

This is pretty much what I've been told to expect from H4350 and is excellent.

N160 -
Cold 15° AVG 2822.0 SD 8.6 ES 24.4
Middle 76° AVG 2849.5 SD 10.0 ES 31.2
Hot 105° AVG 2850.1 SD 18.1 ES 48.8

This is also very good with a less than 30 fps increase over 90°. My earlier testing showed N160 to not be as consistent from a velocity standpoint as H4350 & N555 at least in my gun and that was also the case here. Having said that it has still shown good velocity performance and excellent dispersion so I wouldn't hesitate to recommend giving it a try. It's also the most affordable of the 3 at around $300 for an 8 pounder.

N555 -
Cold 15° AVG 2840.4 SD 9.6 ES 23.5
Middle 76° AVG 2847.2 SD 2.0 ES 5.7
Hot 105° AVG 2832.3 SD 3.3 ES 9.1

This is the most interesting result with the hot rounds being the slowest but still excellent results. It has also been on a par with H4350 when it comes to velocity consistency and even better with dispersion in my gun.

I'd say all 3 propellants are what I would call "temp stable" with H4350 & N555 being outstanding and N160 being very good.

260 shipped

I’m selling my Tacops delta 51 in 308 with Tacops suppressor. I bought this from a sheriffs dept in Washington State. They were unsure of round count, but it’s high…think 8-10k rounds, but it still hammers for me with 168 fgmm. I will pay my side of the suppressor transfer fee.

$3,250 for rifle and suppressor shipped con US PayPal f&f or Venmo

Edited to add some pics I found.

I am a SS wet tumbler guy but loading .223 it is getting out of control with the amount of time it takes. What is a good media tumbler for an initial clean. It will be ran in the back of the house so noise is an issue.

Also what media should be used for a rough clean?

My plan is to dry tumble with primer pockets in, run them through the brass prep stage on the 650, wet tumble to get lube and clean primer pockets some, dry and run through the load tool head.

So have picked up a few different stocks recently that are flush cup. Any recommendations on over the shoulder slings that will stay put??

KtM Stock bedded for a bat hr action $675 firm shipped in the US.