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2025 Mammoth Fort Chaffee AAR

We had the opportunity to compete in the 2025 Mammoth Sniper Challenge at Fort Chaffee. The match director Chris Andrews commented that this might have been the toughest Mammoth yet due to constant rain day 1, heat on days 2 & 3, and rain & thunderstorms the third morning. The dropout rate was close to 50%. In the end only 44 of 80 finished the event. We were lucky to edge out a top 20 finish at 19th place and finished Mammoth our first time competing. Over three days we had 6 rucks totaling 29.7 miles with a sub 16 min/mile pace carrying about 60lbs worth of gear.

Below is a list of the gear and food I packed. To the food list I added (2) oatmeals and (3) mini–Cliff Bars. Last minute adds to the gear list were a lingerie laundry bag, Vaseline, and poncho. A grand $4.59 from Walmart in total. My teammate carried 50 rounds of 6.5CM ammo for me. After the event on the drive back we summarized our findings and those can be found at the end of this write-up.

Day 1
DescriptionWeightCostCalories
Breakfast & Coffee at Hotel0.000
Honey Stinger Waffles0.07150
GU Energy Gel0.07100
Liquid IV Hydration Multiplier0.0450
One Maple Glazed Doughnut0.13220
Mountain House Granola with Milk & Blueberries - 2 Servings0.25500
Liquid IV Hydration Multiplier0.0450
Country Archer Grass-Fed Beef Jerky 2.5oz0.17175
Honey Stinger Waffles0.07150
GU Energy Gel0.07100
Liquid IV Hydration Multiplier0.0450
Mountain House Beef Stroganoff - 2 Servings0.27560
Day 2
DescriptionWeightCostCalories
Mountain House Breakfast Skillet - 2 Servings0.23520
Kuju Coffee Basecamp Blend (x2)0.380
Honey Stinger Waffles0.07150
GU Energy Gel0.07100
Liquid IV Hydration Multiplier0.0450
One Maple Glazed Doughnut0.13220
PEAK REFUEL Strawberry Granola0.29530
Liquid IV Hydration Multiplier0.0450
Country Archer Grass-Fed Beef Jerky 2.5oz0.17175
Honey Stinger Waffles0.07150
GU Energy Gel0.07100
Liquid IV Hydration Multiplier0.0450
Mountain House Chicken and Dumplings - 2 Servings0.28600
Day 3
DescriptionWeightCostCalories
Mountain House Biscuits & Gravy - 2 Servings0.28560
Kuju Coffee Basecamp Blend (x2)0.380
Honey Stinger Waffles0.07150
GU Energy Gel0.07100
Liquid IV Hydration Multiplier0.0450
One Maple Glazed Doughnut0.13220
Backpackers Pantry Granola with Milk and Organic Blueberries0.29620
Liquid IV Hydration Multiplier0.0450
Country Archer Grass-Fed Beef Jerky 2.5oz0.17175
Honey Stinger Waffles0.07150
GU Energy Gel0.07100
Liquid IV Hydration Multiplier0.0450

Individual Gear
DescriptionWeightWeight ∆Notes
Kuiu Pro 3600 Pack4.74Removed Manual / Pad. Straps -0.27#
Eberlestock Bolt Action Scabbard1.06Remove Scabbard -1.06
Kuiu Mountain Star 2 Person Tent Set w/o bag3.34Alternate remove inner shell 0.88#. Footprint 0.295#
Kuiu Super Down Sleeping Bag 30deg1.64
Sea to Summit Aeros Premium Pillow0.17
Big Agnes Raptide SL Insulated Sleeping Pad (Long)1.36Alternate Nemo Switchback Sleeping Pad 14.5oz
Dry Bag0.65-0.65Not needed if dry
Black Diamond Cosmo 3500.18
Spexlite Shmedium Gamechanger w/ Clip0.79
Kestrel0.29
FHF Gear Bino Harness Pro-M & Armageddon Gear Mag Holder0.84
Sig Kilo 3000's2.14
UnderArmor dope card wristband0.100.285# Sunrise Tactical
Rite in rain pad0.21
Pen0.03
GCode Inner Belt0.30
GCode Paddle & OSH0.29
Glock G19 w/ RMR1.34Remove Flashlight (0.265#)
(x2) Magpul Glock G19 Mags0.21
AI ATX w/ 24" Proof CF Barrel + Dominus + Atlas Cal + Badger Ordnance 306-54 + TT525P16.00Ckyepod (+0.755#)
Sling + Adapter0.400.485# Larue
RRS TFCT-24L Mk2 SOAR® Series 2 Tripod4.66
SunShadow LLC Tac Table0.32
(x2) AX Mags0.68
100rds rifle5.10Steve carry 50rds for me
125rds Blazer Aluminum Case Pistol Ammo2.60Alternate 150 rounds 3.105#
Ear pro (x6 foam inserts)0.00HW Impact Sport (+0.79#)
Garmin Fenix 60.19
Fleece Beanie0.09-0.09Not needed if warm
Lightweight Beanie0.05-0.05
Hat0.14
GoRuck Mackall1.86
GoRuck Merino Challenge Socks - Crew (x2)0.35
Darn Tough Hiker Micro Crew Cushion Socks (x2)0.34
(x2) Champion Boxer Brief0.34
Kuiu Ultra Merino 120 LT Zip-Off0.35-0.35Bottom Base
(x2) Kuiu Peloton 118 LS Crew-T0.72Top Base
Kuiu Peloton 97 Fleece Zip-T0.31Midlayer
Patagonia Rain Jacket0.97Not needed if dry
KUIU Kutana Stretch Woven Pant0.85Outer
REI Co-Op Sahara Convertible Pants0.86Kuhl Radikl's 15.9oz
Eddie Bauer MR Jacket Cirrus Lite Down0.64-0.64
MSR Pocket Rocket 2 Stove w/o Carry Case0.16
Stove 4oz fuel Canister0.47
Toaks Titanium 750ml ml Pot0.28
Toaks Titanium Spork0.04
Halulite Aluminum Cup - 14 fl. oz0.16
Day 1 Food1.38
2105​
Calories
Day 2 Food1.85
2695​
Calories
Day 3 Food1.50
2225​
Calories
Degree Advanced Travel deodorant0.06
Travel toothbrush and toothpaste0.10
Dude Wipes 18 cnt0.33
Iphone0.48
Benchmade 535 Bugout0.12
Bodyglide0.09
Reflective Belt0.13
Lighter0.07
Extra Batteries (x3 AAA, AA, CR2, CR2032), Allen Keys (4mm, T15), & Lense Cloth0.14
BioLite Charge 40 PD Power Bank + Phone0.68
KT Tape Pro0.20
(x2) Contacts, Ibuprofen, Immodium, Pepto, Unisom, Olly Sleep0.16
Total Weight65.8264.04Alternate Total Weight
Total Ruck58.2456.46Alternate Total Ruck

Weight

I took out the alternates; dry bag and cold weather gear. I stepped off with a total weight of roughly 64# with 56.5# in my ruck

Round Count

130 Pistol & 150 Rifle

Day 1 Morning Ruck

5.4 miles, 16 minutes / miles, 86min 24sec

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Day 1 Stage 1 - Marathon House (5mins)

Primary Pistol: 8 / unlimited

Primary Rifle: 22 / unlimited

Secondary Pistol: 8 / unlimited

Secondary Rifle: 22 / unlimited

Pistol: 2 static torso targets must be engaged with 3 rounds hit or miss by each shooter. A marathon target will active and it must be neutralized with 2 hits from each shooter.

Rifle: Must setup over two red marks on the railing. Must find range and engage a 16” gong. 1st shooter 3 round hit or miss. 2nd short 3 rounds hit or miss. On the 6th round four Marathon targets will become active. Each Marathon target will require 2 hits to neutralize. The Marathon targets have red shirts.

All gear must be off the ground at the start. Move from start line, up the stairs, to the second story by the dump buckets & red tape to engage pistol and rifle.

Day 1 Stage 2 – Simultaneous Fire (5 mins)

Primary Rifle: 12

Secondary Rifle: 12

Rifle: There are 4 pairs of identical targets that are side by side. Targets must be engaged by shooters side by side and simultaneously for impacts to count. The order the targets must be engaged is found on a placard around 100 yards. 3 rounds per shooter hit or miss.

All gear must be off the ground at the start. Move with all gear from start line into the back of the Humvee to engage rifle from any position between the two red lines.

Day 1 Stage 3 – Marathon Pit & Prone (5 mins)

Primary Rifle: 18 / unlimited

Secondary Rifle: 18 / unlimited

Rifle: Secondary engaged a 12” Diamond at 493 yards with 3 rounds hit or miss. Primary engaged a 16” Diamond at 875 yards with 3 rounds hit or miss. The White Diamonds are in lanes 3 & 4. On the 6th round 3 marathon robots will become active. Marathon targets require 2 hits to drop. The marathon targets have white shirts.

All gear must be off the ground at the start. Move with all gear from start line into shooting positions. Secondary is prone on the ground left of the pit. The primary is on the forward wall of the pit standing.

Day 1 Stage 4 - Game On (5mins)

Primary Pistol: 12 rounds

Secondary Pistol: 12 rounds

Max Team Rifle: 35 rounds

Pistol: 4 prairie dogs, left to right, 3 rounds hit or miss

Rifle: 2 Coyotes, 1 Duck, 4 Wild Boar, any order, 3 rounds hit or miss. Only engaged by 1 shooter.

All gear must be off the ground at the start. Move from the start line to pistol dump buckets and engage pistol targets from the ground. Move into the UMTV with all gear to engage rifle targets from any position.

Day 1 Evening Ruck

5.4 miles, 16 minutes / miles, 86min 24sec

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Day 2 Morning Ruck

5.33 miles, 18 minutes / miles, 95 minutes 56 sec
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Day 2 Stage 5 – Auburn Road (5mins)

Primary Pistol: 9

Primary Rifle: 15 max

Secondary Pistol: 9

Secondary Rifle: 15 max

Pistol: First shooter engages 3 chest plate targets with 3 rounds hit or miss per target.Frist shooter move to the red post with dump bucket and abandons pistol. Second shooter repeats sequence.

Rifle: Secondary shooter is on the left and has four targets a clover, 3x15 rectange, square, and gong. Primary shooter is on the right and has four targets square, 3x15 rectangle, diamond, and oval. Both shooters engage a target with 3 rounds hit or miss. One shooter engages at a time. Once both shooters have engage each of their 4 targets, one shooter can engage a 18 x 28 rectangle at 758 yards with 3 rounds hit or miss.

All gear must be off the ground at the start. Move from the start line to pistol dump buckets and engage pistol targets from the ground. Build a position in between the two red posts and engage rifle targets.

Day 2 Stage 6 – The Hill (5mins)

Primary Pistol: 6

Primary Rifle: 9

Secondary Pistol: 6

Secondary Rifle: 9

Pistol: First shooter engages 2 torso targets in any order with 3 rounds hit or miss per target. Second shooter repeats sequence.

Rifle: Secondary has three targets less than 500 yards. (1) Torso, (1) Gong, (1) Square. Primary has three targets greater than 500 yards. (1) Torso, (1) Diamond, (1) Rectangle. Primary and secondary must engage targets with 3 rounds hit or miss. Only one target can be engaged at a time.

All gear must be off the ground at the start. Move from the start line to pistol dump buckets and engage pistol targets from the ground. Build a position in between the two red posts and engage rifle targets.

Day 2 Stage 7 – Tower (5mins)

Primary Pistol: 18

Primary Rifle: 9 / unlimited

Secondary Pistol: 18

Secondary Rifle: 9 / unlimited

Pistol: 6 Pistol IPSC targets must be engaged from left to right by the first shooter. There must be at least one mag change per shooter on pistol. 3 rounds hit or miss per target. Second shooter repeats sequence.

Rifle: P1, S1, P2, S2, P3, S3 Poppers. 3 impacts per popper to neutralize. Primary engages P1, P2, P3. Secondary engages S1, S2, S3. They must be engaged in sequence order.

All gear must be off the ground at the start. Move from the start line to pistol dump buckets and engage pistol targets from the ground. Move the stairs with all gear into the tower and engage the rifle targets.

Day 2 Stage 8 – Shapes (5mins)

Primary Rifle: 18

Secondary Rifle: 18

Rifle: (1) 12” Diamond, (1) Large Oval, (1) Wild Board, (1) 10” Square, (1) 10” Gong, and (1) Rubber Duck. Per target 1st Shooter 3 rounds hit or miss then 2nd Shoorts 3 rounds hit or miss. Targets can be engaged in any order.

All gear must be off the ground at the start. Move from the start line, through the woods to a vertical pallet anchored with 2 red posts. Shooting position is over the pallet between the two red posts.

Day 2 Evening Ruck

4.92 miles, 18 minutes / miles, 88 minutes 34 sec

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Day 3 Morning Ruck

4.33 miles, 16 minutes / miles, 69 minutes 17 sec

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Day 3 Stage 9 – Standing Offhand (3mins)

Primary Rifle: 10

Secondary Rifle: 10

Rifle: (1) 66% Torso. Left shooter engages the torso offhand with 5 rounds. Right shooter engages torso offhand with 5 rounds. Repeat for both shooters. Slings are allowed. All unneeded gear can remain in staging area. Bino harness can’t be used for support.

Gear must be off the ground at the start. Move from the start line, up the berm to the shooting position.

Day 3 Stage 10 – Pistols (3mins)

Primary Pistol: 10

Secondary Pistol: 10

Pistol: Left shooter engages torso target with 5 rounds standing with any gear used for support. Left shooter engages torso target with 5 rounds standing with no gear used for support. Right shooter repeats sequence.

Day 3 Stage 11 – Cant’ed (3mins)

Primary Rifle: 5

Secondary Rifle: 5

Rifle: Red 12” gong at 455 yards. Rifle must be cant’ed 90 degreed to engage.

Day 3 Evening Ruck (Final Ruck)

4.33 miles, 16 minutes / miles, 69 minutes 17 sec

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Actual Round Count

Pistol 76 & Rifle 97

Failures

My Kuiu Pro 3600 had a tear in the side at the seam and the load straps were frayed, pretty significantly, from rubbing on the frame. The load strap damage is from improper use feeding them through the frame. Kuiu was gracious enough to get in the mail a new harness and a store credit for my bag with a tear. My headlight, Black Diamond Cosmo 350, died Friday night and REI replaced it without a receipt. My Patagonia rain jacket had a failed zipper and it is enroute to Patagonia for repairs.

Not Recommended

I wore the GoRuck Mackalls and would not recommend them for 3 days and 30 miles. I would go with a mid-boot. I had 3 blisters and 2 hot spots. Taping my feet made one of the blisters worse. I read “Fixing your Feet” prior to the event but had little to no experience with hot spots and blisters during training.

Changes in Kit by Discovery Day

Day 1

  • With my headlamp failing I wish I had packed a backup headlamp. Having to use your phone for everything sucks.
  • I would add medium weight poncho for if your rain jacket jacket fails, to cover both shooters, or to cover your bag
  • My sharpie and ball point pen did not do well in the rain. I would add a Rite in Rain Pen
  • I would add a rifle rain cover to protect my rifle & optic from the elements.
Day 2

  • Add Small mat to sit / kneel on to save your legs, knees, and feet.
  • Add Small lightweight chair to save your legs, knees, and feet.
  • Add Lightweight Sandals to let your feet air out
  • Add Ranger Shorts to ruck in or sit around camp in
Day 3

  • I would take more food. Probably an additional meal per day. Between active and resting calories we burned approximately 4200, 4000, and 3400 respectively per day. I only packed on average 2350 calories per day
  • A medium weight tarp to wrap all your gear in when it’s raining
  • Change to a tent that has more height and is easier to setup. Right now I have 8 stakes and 3 poles. Some of the lightweight hunting tents I am looking at have 4 stakes and a single pole. Our tent did very well keeping us dry. The tent never lost a stake or came off the ground with the storms. I would recommend an insert (bottom or tub) with the tent to keep water out
  • I packed 4 pairs of socks and 2 pairs of underwear. I would pack 6 pairs of socks and 3 underwear.
  • I packed 3 shirts and 2 pants. I would pack 2 shirts and one pair of pants.
  • Multiple sleep aids did not work as well; Olly Gummies, Unisome, Advil PM, and Ashwaganda. The only thing that worked was NyQuil.
  • More Ibuprofen / Advil. We didn’t have enough. I think I had 8 per day.
  • Instead of foam inserts for ear pro pack something like Surefire Sonic Defenders.
  • Nalgene for carrying premade coffee, oatmeal, or ramen. We had to use the provided plastic water bottles.
  • Paracord for a clothes line to dry out clothes or fix failed backpacks.
  • Add Ramen noodles & oatmeal to the food list.
  • Lightweight dry bags to stuff items like a sleeping bag, pillow, clothes, ammo, etc.
  • Another option instead of tarp, gun condom, etc. would be a pack cover
  • A lot of guys were taking Pre workout before the rucks and it seemed to work out well
Closing Thoughts

I rucked twice a week, probably 3-4 miles average per ruck with final pack weight, and never rucked further than 6.5 miles. I did this for about 4 months leading up to the event. I ran and did bootcamps other days of the week. I felt confident going into the event. In hindsight, I wish I had rucked twice a day for 3-4 miles each ruck a couple weeks or month leaidng up to the event to get my feet and body conditioned to that level of load and demand. I also wish I had done more running interval training with pack weight. My teammate did this and fared better than me on the final ruck.

I severely underestimate calorie consumption and wish I had packed more food. It’s hard to explain, but you are constantly moving. Either rucking, packing, unpacking, shooting, setting up camp, packing up camp, cooking, etc. It’s a gear management marathon. You are just constantly moving. There were a few times a day I could lay down in the shade, hopefully under a tree, but those were in the minority by far. Any time you can get off your feet either on a mat, chair, or shooting bag it needs to be done.

There is something about being out in the elements for three full days that just zaps you mentally and physically. We had about six hours of rain on Friday and everything got soaked. It wasn’t particularly cold, 60degF – ish, but people were shaking they were so cold. I made the mistake of changing my socks immediately after the first ruck and the new pair got soaked with the rain. I was already down 2 pairs of socks, and it wasn’t even 9am the first day of the event. We spent the majority of the first day in the rain. It didn’t really stop until early afternoon, allowing us to dry up before the final ruck. I don’t think I was dry until like 3-4pm. The heat on days 2 and 3 just drained me. I did well with a hat, long sleeves, and long pants, but still it’ll just zap you and I am from the Southeast and accustomed to the heat. It wasn’t particularly hot either, in the mid 80’s.

Another thing I didn’t expect was sleep deprivation. We didn’t get back to camp on the first day until like 6:30. Setting up camp, cooking, drying clothes out, setting out clothes for the following day, inventorying, etc. it was close to 9 before we got in bed. With an early rise all morning of 4am-4:30am

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SOLD Bushnell 6-36x56 Elite Tactical XRS3 EQL Reticle *Price drop*

It was on my 6.5cm hunting rifle, but I want something lighter. Scope is in good condition and functions great. I've shot it out to 900 yards, and it tracts like it should. It has some light scratches on the objective lens that can be seen at the right angle, but they don't effect the clarity.

Locking windage and zero stop can be set under zero on this model.

SOLD $800 Shipped Insured

Just PM me, don't make it easy for scammers by posting "PM sent".


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Remington MSR / PSR bolts

I wanted to let everyone know we are working to produce some of the missing MSR/PSR parts. These are awesome rifles, but it seems like there are more chassis’s and actions than bolt bodies and other small parts.

Currently we are working on the bolt stop, bolt body, and firing pin assembly.

If anyone has knowledge about the system,
experience or connections in producing a small run of parts like this please let me know.

Please comment with which parts you need as well as the quantity.

I will keep everyone updated with the progress here as well.

The parts will be marked to indicate that they are not factory original parts. But should function and appear like the factory parts.

When we get to production, Kace at Raider Outdoors will be handling distribution in a separate post. https://raideroutdoors.com/


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Optics WTT - Euro spec S&B 6-36 for ZCO 8-40 or Khales K540

I have a pair of S&B 6-36 - euro spec ( wider FOV) and could trade one of them for a ZCO 8-40 or Khales K540

Specs of mine:

CCW
Elevation turret is MTII MTC LT ( 39.5 mil total elevation ! - 8 mil / turn)
Windage turret is DTII+ ZC LT
Reticule is GRI2D
Overall condition is great - will be delivered with the original box + accessories

What I could be interested in:

CCW
ZCO - 8-40
10 Mi turret
MPCT1X or 2X reticule

CCW
K540i
DLR - 10 mil turret
Right windage
SKMR+ reticule

Either should be in equivalent condition, great / like new, with box and papers, etc...

I'm based in France and I can ship to the US for the exchange
I'll also be in Houston Texas for a business trip on 29-30-31st of July

Please PM me if interested

Accessories Bullets, Harris, AR, brass

gun bench clean out.

All prices are shipped. Group shipping and group discounts can be discussed in DM.

45 cal 325 FTX (50) . 3 box’s. 40 each.

338 285 BTHP (50) 2 boxes. 45 each

6.5 140 grain ELD (50). 40 shipped

22 cal. 80 ELD (140). 40 shipped

22 cal 80 grain Berger moly coated

22 cal. 75 grain ELD (150) SOLD

22 cal 73 grain eld. (90). 20.

6mm. 87 vmax. (120). 40.

UBR stock.SOLD

Car 15 pistol brace. SOLD

S and B brace with lunar strap. SOLD

6.5 creed 1x brass cleaned. ( 50). 40.

Harris bipods.

Long ultralight.(painted) 80.

Medium ultralight. 80

SRM. (Tan) 80.

SBRM SOLD

Unknown picatinny harris clone 40.

223 lung punch rigging ammo wallet (I believe softcock makes these). SOLD

Accurate 300wsm/saum/ 6.5 Prc mag SOLD

Accurate 300 wm 3.775 length. 60.


I would prefer filling a flat rate box up for someone.

Offers welcome on all.

All must go!!!

Pp Venmo or Zelle.

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Fouling past the case neck

Well...I am officially stumped!!!
I use the 6.5cm sac sizing die with .285" shoulder/neck bushing and .2625" expander mandrel with alpha munitions ocd LRP brass. When I shoot my zermatt origin action with proof ss prefit barrel and oss suppressor I always get a ton of fouling that goes past neck down to the bottom of the shoulder and sometimes past that. Ive tried everything to fix it and nothing works..different bushings/expander mandrels I bump the shoulder back .002". I just just got in a new batch of alpha brass and the necks on some were messed up so I ran them all through my sac sizing die that way I always to make sure my shoulder is set where it normally is (I've got a tight chamber) after i did that I went and shot some and the fouling stayed on the neck and didn't go past that onto the shoulder and further. I cant figure out what's different. Everything reloading wise is the same. gear is the same only thing difference is that's its new brass but I did resize it all before using it and with all my brass I always anneal before resizing ( not with the new brass). Can anyone tell me what the heck is happening and how I can correct it so my fouling isn't going past the necks and into my.chamber anymore. What made the new brass different even with the sizing being the same.
Thanks all,
Justin
1st pic is brass with multiple firings. 2nd is new and sized brass

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WOOX Furiosa Chassis ?

Has anyone used this chassis long enough to give a solid review? Just wondering how it holds up and if there’s anything I should know before buying. I’m in love with the looks of it but I know that can become an issue at times. I was going to use a MDT ACC to build a competition rifle but this Woox Furiosa is just too cool not to consider. Also is there any other really cool looking chassis I should consider instead?

Accessories 6 SLR barrel, brass, and dies $200

I have a Proof Heavy Palma 26" Zermatt TL3 prefit with 623 rounds on it. 300pcs of virgin Winchester 243 brass, and a Redding 6 SLR FL sizing die with a Tin 268 bushing installed. And a Redding Micrometer 243W Seating die. Chambered by Harless Precision in Colorado Springs. This is the little brother to the 6 Comp Match. You can run H1000, RL26, 23, 4831, and other traditional magnum powders for long barrel life and low chamber pressure. Easily push 115 DTACs at 3050fps without breaking a sweat. This was my 3rd 6SLR barrel and I threw the old brass out. It's the easiest case forming you can do. Just size the brass and you have 6SLR.

Selling the entire package for $200, not including shipping.
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HUB to both Tilt Bbl Pistol and Rifle Interface?

Suppressor is both Intermediate (300 Supers, 5.56, 308) and Handgun (9mm) rated. It also has a HUB interface.

Does there exist a HUB adapter that will adapt to 9mm tilting barrel handgun (piston, I dont think there is another system that works in this app), and also adapt to non-tilting barrel interfaces that are larger than 3-lug? (that is, larger than PCC subs thereabouts).

Why would someone ask for such a thing, right? Say someone has a "Go" bag with a collapsible, or folding, or takedown short barrel AR pistol in Intermediate caliber and also keeps a semi-auto handgun in the same bag. Switching from AR to handgun could require a move of the mounted suppressor. Sure, you could put two cans in the bag, but the takedown does not fit if one is attached. Or...

One can and two applications.

We dont have to thread lock the HUB interface to the can, but most manufacturers recommend to do that. So lets do that, the HUB adapter is thread locked to the can and is not field changeable.

Is there a HUB adapter that will accept a Piston and Spring adapter for tilt barrel semi-auto 9mm, and also accept a non-piston adapter / barrel mount for 30 cal? A Bonus would be to provide for some sort of QD interface, like a taper or interrupted thread.

There are mounting systems, like Griffin, that will work if I'm willing to not lock the HUB interface. The HUB to suppressor adapter can be changed to adapt to either piston or non-piston apps. It's time consuming to do that, and leaving the HUB unlocked is not a great solution.