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Hating these Hornady 105gn BTHP Match 6mm Creedmoor bullets for reloading

I'm reloading some of these Hornady 105gn BTHP 6mm Creedmoor bullets in brand new Aphpa Brass. All brass was prepped. Using the L.E. Micrometer seating die with a K&M arbor press. Also using the L.E. Wilson expanding mandrel. Neck tension at .001. When seating these bullets I am getting an indent around the tip of the bullet. Called Wilson and the recommended I use the VLD stem. So I ordered one and swapped out the standard stem for the VLD stem. Same thing is happening putting a deep ring around the tip of the bullet when seating. Called Wilson back and they told me to send in the stem with a couple bullets and they are going to mod the stem to the bullet under warranty. The tech I spoke with says he does this quite often with the VLD stem. It's funny because I had also reloaded some with the Barnes Match Burner 105gn BTHP with the standard stem and I'm not having this issue with the Barnes bullets. I thought that it might just be the powder charge of 39.6gn of H4350 being compressed but I'm at the low end of the scale.

Has anyone ever had any issues like this and what was the result?
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Is the .17HMR really much better than .22LR for varmints?

I am considering investing in my Savage 93R17 BSEV to get some more use out of it. I haven't shot it in years.

I don't shoot it much anymore because it's boringly accurate and as a gopher rifle my .22 is more like my hunting and match rifles and is three times cheaper to shoot while the Savage is quite lacking at the moment in the optics and chassis department. The .22 works for what I use it for but I was thinking the .17 would be better.

My thinking was I would have a flatter shooting rifle for medium varmints like skunks, foxes, beavers, muskrats, and possibly coyotes for when centerfires would be overkill or too loud around the property as suppressors aren't an option.


I am far from a ballistics expert but comparing the .17HMR to the .22 Mini Mags it's better but not a lot better.



Here's .22:

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And here's the .17:

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So it seems that my point blank range only increases from about 110 yards to 140 yards or so which isn't a lot really. Also not sure that bullet energy is the end all, be all of stopping power but it doesn't seem to offer a huge increase for larger animals.


Would I be correct to think the .17HMR is only 25 to 30% better than a .22 with Mini Mags? Stingers pack more of a punch but they weren't as accurate for me. The .17 does shoot flatter but past 150 yards does it have enough energy for the critters I would be going after?

Also side note, if I get a new base rail I don't think there is any reason to go with a 20 MOA one as at 300 yards it only needs a little over 3 mil.

Accessories Misc Safe Cleanout/ New 6creed Reamer

Now that my wife needs full time care and I’m unable to shoot much due to early onset Alzheimer’s, I’m parting with some guns and project stuff. I’ll add more as I go through the bench and safe. Guns are listed separately.
PayPal or Venmo
1. New Manson 6mm Creedmoor Finish reamer. (Never used)
$175 shipped.
2. KRG Whiskey 3 large palm panels. Gray
Never used. $25 shipped
3. New Magpul MOE Carbine Handguard Green $20 shipped
4. Odin tunable gas block (around 50 rounds use)
$25 shipped

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Savage AICS DBM choices?

Building a new stock for my old Savage 308. Right now it sits in a Boyds Pro Varmint I bedded it into 10 year ago, which while serviceable, is a bit short for LOP and I just dont care for how it tracks under recoil. I pulled some really heavily figured cherry and some curly maple off the shelf and glued up a nice blank. My original game plan was to just reuse the stock Savage DBM and factory mags, mostly because they are old school blued steel, and I kind wanted to keep this rifle looking old school other than the SSTL Criterion barrel it currently has. Also plan on adding in some LRI pillars (will require a bit of modification to work with a Savage) and the LRI cheek riser. However, after looking at how the factory profile of the inlet, I decided I want to increase the thickness of the inlet under the front action screw as wood stocks are prone to cracking in front of the magwell. I also plan on a crossbolt in the front and rear of the magwell to help with that.

So other than the Savage factory part and Atlasworx, does anyone know of anything else? Im looking at the profile of the Savage and it looks really wide in comparison the Atlasworx which I think will cause issues with inletting as I dont want that wider and rounder profile of it.

SOLD Surplus MK13 MOD 5 RINGS - NF Ultralite 1.125 high Rings 30mm A07 - $108 SHIPPED

Selling some new old stock contract MK13 MOD 5 rings - NF Ultralite 1.125 high Rings 30mm A07 -

These are the mid contract rings. They have no height stamps on feet or logos on top caps. They include an allen wrench. They are in Original Contract Packaging.

$108 Shipped per set

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Rifle Scopes What scopes have all these features?

I am not familiar with every scope on the market. I have been searching butnthought I would also ask here. I am looking for a new scope that has as many of these features as possible:

-FFP/MRAD (obviously).
-Magnification minimum 5x, maximum 20x (preferably higher).
-Minimum fous distance of 25 yards (preferably 10 yards).
-Max weight around 36oz (preferably lighter)
-Low profile turrets that aren't too tall (will obscure rangefinder screen.)
-Locking turrets (locking or capped windage a must.)
-Illuminated reticle.
-34mm tube (35 or 36mm seems to limits mounting options.)
-About $2500 USD max price (could go a bit higher or look for a used one.)


The reticle itself should have:

-Christmas tree design (preferably a bit narrow and not really a grid.)
-Elevation numbers close to the center and lots of them.
-Minimum 4 mil of "hold under" marks above the cross hair (for use with weapon mounted LRF and holding under for close range targets at matches.)
-Markings not overly thin.
-Staggered intermediate hash marks between full mil marks.

This is the probably the best reticle I have seen for my uses, the ZCO MPCT3X:
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These aren’t all deal breakers necessarily but I would really prefer to have all those features. Some scopes that almost meet the criteria are:

-Razor G3 (too heavy, I already own one)
-Leupold Mk5 (only 2 mil hold under with PR2 and no illumination. Also 35mm.)
-ZCO 527 (near perfect except for the price and 36mm tube.)
-Bushnell DMR3 (reticles are a bit lacking. No illumination. DMR-IIi I have is not the brightest or sharpest but not a disaster)
-Nightforce NX8 (heard complaints about the eyebox. 30mm tube.)
-Nightforce ATACR (ocular housing rotates. A bit pricey. Not crazy about the reticles.)

I may be incorrect about some of these features as that was just off the top of my head.

Thanks in advance.

Does Barrel Vibration Exist and Does it Matter

I'm posting this here in Reloading because it comes up now and again in load development. A lot of information and misinformation is out there. Yes it matters. The attached link to a Paper by FN covering a redesign of a SAW barrel is probably one of the best that is available that demonstrates the impact.

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA434693.pdf
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Firearms Cz 457

Cz 457 factory barrel cut, crowned and threaded I think it's 20 inch, eabco stainless threaded.. I think it's 24 inch, boyds stock, have 1 5rd and 1 10rd mag, arken ep5 brand new 5-25 in badger rings take it all for 1350 or 850 for the rifle

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Accessories MDT CRBN Stock

Just got in the MDT carbon stock. Great look and feel!

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Accessories Gray Ops AW Standard Mags 13 rounds

Just got in a shipment of the Gray ops AW Standard Mags.

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NEW From Zermatt Arms - RimX Actions

Introducing the RimX action from Zermatt Arms.

www.rimxaction.com

- Remington 700 Footprint
- Integral Recoil Lug
- Nitrided, chromoly reciever
- Nitrided bolt body
- DLC Coated Bolt Head
- Non-protruding, fixed extractor
- 6 o'clock firing pin
- Tool-less bolt disassembly
- Interchangeable bolt heads
- 22 LR / 17 Mach 2
- 17 HMR
- 17 WSM
- 7075 Aluminum 10 round magazine (anodized)
- Pre-fit, shouldered barrels available
- $1150 / ea. Includes (1) magazine

Check out the website for more information regarding the product!

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SOLD FS: Seekins PH3 NRL 6mm Creedmoor

I have a like new Seekins PH3 NRL. This is in 6mm Creed, which is almost impossible to find.
Love the rifle and it shoots awesome. Due to other plans, I am going to let this go.
About 150 rounds fired. I shot an NRL match with 105 Hybrids and it did awesome, but I also tested factory 108's and they were amazing as well.

I need SOLD PENDING FUNDS for it and I will include the Seekins Mlok rail.

The only trade I would entertain is a Lite hunting chassis.....like an XLR Magnesium with Folder.

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Still contemplating a savage 10fp in 308.

Back in the late 90s in my early days in the army in purchased a savage 10fp Le with hs precision stock and had a super sniper 10x on it. It was close enough to my m24 that I could practice on my own time and really loved that rifle.. I wound up selling it after my daughter was born and always regretted it.

Over the past 4 years or so I have been planning on getting back into the sport and really wanted another one, but common sense told me there was better. About a year ago my custom Zermatt tl3 build was completed in 6.5 and then I picked up a new Remington 700 police in 300 wm.

My local shop still has the new old stock savage 10fp in hs precision stock in 308 and I'm still contemplating purchasing it. I can justify it and give it to my daughter so she can learn long range and shoot with me she is 25 now.

Should I fulfill the urge and longing for rifle I had and loved, or should I pass? I know I can buy a bergara and it might be a better rifle and have more aftermarket support, but you know.. Price is 950 without the optic they threw on it.

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Accessories Spring Cleaning

Fatboy traverse 3 section, invert 60 - SOLD
Two Vets Recon v2 (inverted) rrs anvil 30 - SOLD
Atlas psr, RRS Arca/pic mount - SOLD
MDT 35 mm x high rings - SOLD
Warne 30mm meds - SOLD
Cole tac bino harness and pouches - 100
Walsh custom defense bullet binder - 100

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