The all new ATF magnet

A great example of "Because you can doesn't mean you should..."

Sirhr

Do people just start businesses expecting to get raided by the ATF or what? Is there some kind of insurance policy that covers government destruction of the business that I'm not aware of?

is this a relocation of the '3rd hold' that used to get talked about so much?

I hope they succeed

I'll admit, I kinda want one...

Well then. Stupid literally has no limit

I definitely want one, who wouldn’t want to have fun blasting rounds down range? Maybe a fudd?

Shall not be infringed. Fuck the ATF, with that being said I would purchase with cash.

This is a pay with cash item lol.

Honestly IMHO, outside of a in the home defense select fire SBR, where it would be a middle of the night, just woke up to hostiles breaking down my door, select fire doesn’t really do much for me.

And in the above situation, shy of a large number of hostiles, a nice semi auto benelli M1.

That said, after reading the second amendment and the federalist papers, I should be able to mail order a M4 with a 203, FTATF

So much Costa Arm in that video, its gotta be a legit product.

As a poors I'm not interested in sending 10 bucks a second down range. From a practical perspective full auto (which this emulates) is not the most efficient way to engage multiple targets. And this will go the way of bump stocks. So yeah pay cash if you want to keep it.

This'll linger about as long as a good fart. Not trying to be a dick, or squash anyone's fun or aspirations, just being realistic.

Much want

I wish someone would engineer a semi-auto 3 round burst more though

Just imagine these in the hands of NFAC and the chaos that would ensue when they accidentally set them off against each other...

How did they get the last 3 of the patent to be 223?

Looks legit !

Is this still available?

Ridgeback80 said:

Looks legit !

Is this still available?

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$380 plus shipping.

Do they take bitcoins?

NighthawkCG said:

Just imagine these in the hands of NFAC and the chaos that would ensue when they accidentally set them off against each other...

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Hah! Instead of losing one of their homies to friendly fire they'd lose a half dozen. They have enough trouble with semi auto from the looks of their "training" videos.

No select fire (not sure if that's the right term here) makes this gimmicky. Releasing something like this right now seems like a bold move with the ATF coming down on pistol braces and .223 at $.75+ a round. Godspeed Rare Breed.

Sniperwannabee said:

Do they take bitcoins?

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I do.
For 0.0208217XBT I will purchase one and discreetly send it to you.
Offer expires 8 PM EST

Charger442 said:

So much Costa Arm in that video, its gotta be a legit product.

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And did you see the optic bouncing around on top of the gun starting at the 25-second mark in the shorter video?
Tier None shit right there.

NighthawkCG said:

Just imagine these in the hands of NFAC and the chaos that would ensue when they accidentally set them off against each other...

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Sometimes, dreams do come true.

The one question that I have is why didn't they submit it for review to the FATD for a review? They obviously put a lot of thought into the trigger and it is an ingenious design.

Even though the attorney is very experienced and, at face value, I hold his opinion in high regard, it is still only an opnion.

The two retired ATF SMEs would hold a lot of weight with their testimony if this trigger were the subject of criminal prosecution. Regardless, the easiest way to ensure a remedy for criminal charges later is to get the FATD to tell them that it does not meet the definition of a machine gun.

That still wouldn't stop the ATF from changing their mind like a dirty diaper later on but a letter from the presented in front of a jury would almost certainly grant an acquittal.

I hate to second guess the manufacturer but if it were me, I would have submitted it to the FATD for review and got the documentation from them.

This is basically the same as the TACCON trigger that was out for a while in 2015 or something. I cant remember what happened to it, but I think the ATF put the kaibosh on it... I shot it once... if you werent on it JUST RIGHT the forced reset would slam the trigger into your finger... I think the tip of my finger was bruised after that and I could maybe get the occasional double or triple.

ETA: looks like the TAC-Con trigger is still out there.

"Hello, I'm Larry Demonico. Although I do not work for ATF currently, I will soon be assisting them in identifying every one of my customers, in exchange for a sweet plea deal."

Skookum said:

So much steel in that video, yet so little "ding".

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My thoughts exactly. I was waiting for din,din, din, din ,ding.

Maybe I'm old fashioned but there is still something about the M-1 Garand.

I wonder if I were ever in a firefight and there was an M-1 with about 20 clips (160 rounds) versus and AR-15 with 5 30 round magazines (150 rounds) which one I would pick up.

I've developed more muscle memory with the M-1 than I ever did with the AR-15/M-16. I've also developed more muscle memory with the bolt action rifle than I ever did with the aforementioned rifles.

This is a long drawn out way of saying, I think I would prefer the traditional trigger in the semi-auto versus the RB trigger. That's not taking any legal risks into consideration.

I hope I don't get into any fire fights to test my muscle memory.

Fuck it, I bought one.

SSG69 said:

Fuck it, I bought one.

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We'll be waiting for the product review with lots of photos and cool videos.

Longshot231 said:

Maybe I'm old fashioned but there is still something about the M-1 Garand.

I wonder if I were ever in a firefight and there was an M-1 with about 20 clips (160 rounds) versus and AR-15 with 5 30 round magazines (150 rounds) which one I would pick up.

I've developed more muscle memory with the M-1 than I ever did with the AR-15/M-16. I've also developed more muscle memory with the bolt action rifle than I ever did with the aforementioned rifles.

This is a long drawn out way of saying, I think I would prefer the traditional trigger in the semi-auto versus the RB trigger. That's not taking any legal risks into consideration.

I hope I don't get into any fire fights to test my muscle memory.

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My buddies grandpa when he was still alive would talk about shooting Japs with the Garand and the 30-06 through coconut trees, they tried to hide behind. He LOVED the Garand, there was no doubt. (his daughter married a Japanese/American and holy fuck did he give his son-in-law a hard time).

Well for $400 dollars does that lawyer come with the trigger ? Might need both!

Oh snap, they are in Orlando!

2ndamendfan said:

My buddies grandpa when he was still alive would talk about shooting Japs with the Garand and the 30-06 through coconut trees, they tried to hide behind. He LOVED the Garand, there was no doubt. (his daughter married a Japanese/American and holy fuck did he give his son-in-law a hard time).

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I shot the M-1 a heck of a lot more than anything else. I had several of them but down to one now. Everything with that rifle seems so second nature and I feel like I'm a part of it when I get behind it.

My friends and I were hitting steel at 800 yards with them one day. It was the most fun I could have with my clothes on without a feminine recreational companion.

The ex-mother-in-law was the most bigoted bitch I've ever known. She dropped the N-word right and left. She's probably turning over in her grave cause her grand-daughter married a black gentleman.

I would have paid more money than the cost of the RB trigger to see her face if she were still alive.

Anyway, back to the trigger. I didn't see any return or warranty information on the website. Is it there, because I must have missed it.

Taunting the ATF aside, that trigger looks like a great way to have a ND.
Much like the binary triggers, ND magnets.

A single stage 1.5 to 2 pound AR trigger will let you go as fast as you are likely to need to go anytime soon.

Longshot231 said:

We'll be waiting for the product review with lots of photos and cool videos.

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Sure! Got to get it though first. I bought a PlayStation 5 for my son, shipped dec 16th, still haven’t got it. Not one to be defeated, Christmas Eve I drove 2 hours away to buy another one so the fucking thing would be under the tree...

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Sure! Got to get it though first. I bought a PlayStation 5 for my son, shipped dec 16th, still haven’t got it. Not one to be defeated, Christmas Eve I drove 2 hours away to buy another one so the fucking thing would be under the tree...

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So you're going to keep the 2nd PlayStation 5 for yourself. Come on, you sound like the type of guy who likes to play Call of Duty

Pair it with this:

or this

NighthawkCG said:

Just imagine these in the hands of NFAC and the chaos that would ensue when they accidentally set them off against each other...

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We obviously need some common sense reform with these then. It’s for the children...

Mmmm this on a 10.3 pistol with a muzzle brake on the end running hot rounds.....im looking to make some range friends.

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So you're going to keep the 2nd PlayStation 5 for yourself. Come on, you sound like the type of guy who likes to play Call of Duty

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Not gonna lie, I have played it... And I liked it... Hell no, I’m gonna get rid of it to recoup some of my money.

As far as the trigger goes, I may put it in a little pistol with a 7” barrel I obtained to stick by my right knee in my truck if shit htf. I’d be a deaf mf if I ever had to use it though. Flat rings my bell. Hearing protection is required. Lol

SSG69 said:

Not gonna lie, I have played it... And I liked it... Hell no, I’m gonna get rid of it to recoup some of my money.

As far as the trigger goes, I may put it in a little pistol with a 7” barrel I obtained to stick by my right knee in my truck if shit htf. I’d be a deaf mf if I ever had to use it though. Flat rings my bell. Hearing protection is required. Lol

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That's why I invested in the muzzle mufflers. If you get two of them, they have babies. I still don't think I'd want the RB trigger. I can get a lot of rounds out quick with the Hiper-Fires, Timneys, Geissles and Trigger Techs.

I have shot the Frankford Arsenal Binary trigger in another person's AR-15 but stop short of getting one myself. I was impressed with it but the manufacturer would not give a refund if it was ever installed in the rifle.

How the heck would I know if it was going to work unless I installed it? So I passed.

Likewise with this trigger, if it's not going to work, I'd like to know what their return policy is as well as warranty.

Looks like a fun toy, I'm tempted.

Im2bent said:

As a poors I'm not interested in sending 10 bucks a second down range. From a practical perspective full auto (which this emulates) is not the most efficient way to engage multiple targets. And this will go the way of bump stocks. So yeah pay cash if you want to keep it.

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Full auto is the most effective way to pin down the enemy while you or a buddy moves. It does serve very useful purposes.

It’s perfect for my Model 605B project I think.

It looks like fun. $1.00 a round, not that fun. And you need the m16 bolt carrier.

I want one but don’t want to have a paper trail back to me... if I was local I’d walk in and pay cash

I like it, but not for 380.00

Sniperwannabee said:

I definitely want one, who wouldn’t want to have fun blasting rounds down range? Maybe a fudd?

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Someone that doesn't have Uncle Sugar (or at least a rich relative) paying for the ammo.

Even during my time in the Marines, FA had a very narrow niche of usefulness. Though I do admit a nighttime, final protective fires shoot by a BLT on line was a sight to behold.