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ROE VS WADE OVERTURNED!!!!!!

I don't think anyone is harassing anyone because they chose to carry a baby and give birth. You see plenty of pro lifers standing outside of abortion clinics though. There's one here not far from where I live and there was one in VA near where I used to live. Not once have I ever driven by one and there not been people with signs.

I was looking at donations on opensecrets recently and the difference of money donated to pro life organizations vs pro choice or whatever you choose to call it is staggering. It was like 5-10X as much goes to pro life organizations IIRC. So there's A LOT more pro life activism than pro choice.
you are kidding, right?
there have been dozens of arson and other attacks against pro-life/pro-family health centers in the last month.

 
Straight up Nazi rhetoric right there.

Actually, the Eugenics movement was established in England and America first and was very strong.
It pretty much only got stopped because the Nazis took the ideology and made it a big part of their society and as such the stupid WASPs couldn't go on extoling the virtues of a policy they started but the Nazis made more famous.

Kind of like how Gobbles was always in awe of the super effective and persuasive propaganda and media control of the Wilson administration.

Here is the good old USA there was plenty of states that were into forced eugenics programs to genocide all the "undesirables".
Those persisted here a lot longer than many would like to admit.
 
My solution to the unwanted baby problem is don’t make unwanted babies. No one forces you to fuck. You do that voluntarily and now will finally have to bear responsibility for what you did. And don’t throw the rape bullshit into this because you can’t base social policy based on something that almost never happens. To do so is to act like a libtard and their anti gun agenda. Therefore, if you are pro choice, fuck you and your kind.
 
So your response is to accuse me of being hitler and assuming I think we should kill poor kids? You're fucking mental dude and a moron.

Guess you missed the part about asking about investing into education and healthcare and otherwise trying to create a decent world for these kids that a lot of irresponsible humans are now going to be forced to have.

You have zero solution either and either can't see or can't admit that problems exist and will exist.

As much as propagandists love to put out this B.S. about huge waves of children overrunning society, the actual facts say the exact opposite.
Most likely the world will never have as many people on it at one time as it does now.
In almost all developed countries and many of the less developed countries birth rates are falling on a worrying scale.

Even the Chinese Communist party who were the poster child of forced population control are now reversing course hard and trying to get folks interested in marriage and larger families as they are seeing the population crash on the horizon.

It's not just the choice for contraception and the economic factors, but the problem that thanks to many (and this is a huge, long list and discussion), environmental, chemical, medical things that society is into, fertility rates are plummeting.

Without illegal immigration the USA would already be posting negative population growth.

The world is being depopulated and it's only going to start becoming more visible.

We already have a pretty massive social safety net. Mothers and children are already provided free food and free medical care if they are below income thresholds and there is already free education for children across the whole country. There is Zero chance of children in this country actually starving unless their parents are the ones being evil and starving them. In every state, the government will provide food, clothing and shelter for children if the parents are unable or unwilling to do so. It might not be the best life, but you know it's a better life than half the planet currently has.
 
My solution to the unwanted baby problem is don’t make unwanted babies. No one forces you to fuck. You do that voluntarily and now will finally have to bear responsibility for what you did. And don’t throw the rape bullshit into this because you can’t base social policy based on something that almost never happens. To do so is to act like a libtard and their anti gun agenda. Therefore, if you are pro choice, fuck you and your kind.
i don't know for sure, but i am guessing the number of reported "rapes" will be increasing in the near future.
 
you are kidding, right?
there have been dozens of arson and other attacks against pro-life/pro-family health centers in the last month.


Dude they’ve literally been harassing people outside of abortion clinics for decades. I remember many time growing up the one in Fairfax they would try to block people from walking in the door on a daily basis and even get physical and assault them at times. I knew cops there too and no it wasn’t the pro lifers being assaulted or a false flag or anything like that. Just straight up pro lifers harassing and assaulting people because they don’t agree with the other side.

I’m not excusing the pro choice rioters actions at all because it’s wrong but everyone knows how those people are and nobody can say that we didn’t all see this coming when it was first announced that the MS law was being challenged in the SC. It was to be expected from the get go, the question was when and that when started with the opinion was leaked.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, this was a stupid ass time to choose to do this and throw fuel on the fire and give these people another reason to loot and burn. Yeah, let’s just say until the administration is in office that was behind all the BLM riots to give an even larger group of pissed off people another reason to get really pissed off.

Whether you agree with them or not there are a lot of people who feel like they lost serious rights with this decision and they do have the right to feel that way. Again not saying it’s an excuse for violence, but everyone knows how some of that group is and that they can get away with it.
 
Perhaps we need to start Federal orphanage building projects. I would think the Federal Government would love being able to raise and educate
children.
 
I'm just going to quote myself since everyone seems to have missed it...

Anybody? How do we address this? Or do we just pretend there isn't going to be problems until there's compounding problems and blame it on something else because we didn't fix it to try to unfuck ourselves?

How many are willing to contribute to society in some way to fix this? Anyone willing to take some of these unwanted babies in and give them loving homes? What are you willing to do other than shove your head up your ass and pretend problems don't and won't exist and aren't going to go away without a serious solution?
Literally the post before yours.

Quit paying people for making poor life choices.
Before welfare, women weren't slinging coochie like a t-shirt cannon at a ball game.
 
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Dude they’ve literally been harassing people outside of abortion clinics for decades. I remember many time growing up the one in Fairfax they would try to block people from walking in the door on a daily basis and even get physical and assault them at times. I knew cops there too and no it wasn’t the pro lifers being assaulted or a false flag or anything like that. Just straight up pro lifers harassing and assaulting people because they don’t agree with the other side.

I’m not excusing the pro choice rioters actions at all because it’s wrong but everyone knows how those people are and nobody can say that we didn’t all see this coming when it was first announced that the MS law was being challenged in the SC. It was to be expected from the get go, the question was when and that when started with the opinion was leaked.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, this was a stupid ass time to choose to do this and throw fuel on the fire and give these people another reason to loot and burn. Yeah, let’s just say until the administration is in office that was behind all the BLM riots to give an even larger group of pissed off people another reason to get really pissed off.

Whether you agree with them or not there are a lot of people who feel like they lost serious rights with this decision and they do have the right to feel that way. Again not saying it’s an excuse for violence, but everyone knows how some of that group is and that they can get away with it.
when is the right time to stand up for the defenseless?
luckily i didn't have to choose the timing. i just have to decide what side i am on if this goes south.
for me, that's easy. maybe not as easy for you...
 
Perhaps we need to start Federal orphanage building projects. I would think the Federal Government would love being able to raise and educate
children.
meh, the xiden administration would pardon maxwell and let her run it.
 
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To each their own I suppose. What you described is how it used to be. I cannot/will not associate with those disgusting people. Everything you hold dear they hate. Everything that disgusts you they support. This goes way further than “emotional maturity.”
I quit counting how many liberal and even a few progressive friends I have taken shooting, without exception it was an eye opening experience for every one of them. Most had never been around a gun before and believed all of the bullshit fed to them by the news and entertainment industry and after a day at the range it changed their views on gun control. There are people like you describe but even they can have their eyes opened after a day at the range and that doesn’t happen if we view and treat them as less than human. Your view further alienates the left, I have brought more than a few a little closer back to the center
 
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This is literally the wet dream of countless Dixie flag rednecks. Would be a great reality check for the aggressive mob thug BLM folks.

I used to live in Miami and now live in farmland outskirts near a very small town in the Southeast.

There’s a lot of EBT card carrying trash out here. Most of which are probably too stupid or too ignorant to give a shit about who or what SCOTUS even is. They are not armed to the teeth - they may have a shotgun or two. A hunting rifle for sure and a revolver. I knew vastly more people with machine guns in Miami than I know here (zero).

But in spite of all the above, if some busses start unloading rioters or arsonists they would absolutely have a field day killing every single one of them and, whether good or bad, they will not wait until it’s necessarily legally justifiable.

I don’t want to see violence, but in a theoretical way I am interested in how something like that would play out.
 
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Yeah, unfortunately just cutting everyone off of the governments tit isn’t going to work. Think people are pissed now, take away their housing and EBT and see what happens.
F em and feed em fish heads.
It would absolutely work, and did work for the majority of humanity.
If you want something, unass the couch and work for it.
 
I am, basically, pro-life believing in its sanctity. And my chief complaint about the "pro-choice" people is that they're trying to hide their underlying reason for it, in the name of "the right to choose what happens to their bodies." What they really want is "emergency backup birth control." It is, honestly, the only benefit it offers to them. If you can't master the skills involved in contraception, then you shouldn't be "engaging." They continue to clammer - "It's my body!" Well, it's not just your body! It's your body hosting another body with independent DNA and an independent right to life!

That said, I do feel that the mother's life is the priority, here and anything which is needed to save the mother's life is what should be done. Apart from that, pregnancy is an extremely involved and complicated process, fraught with all kinds of medical risks. Lots of things can go wrong. Lot's of chances for the mom to bleed out, etc. If someone voluntarily chooses to go through a pregnancy and accept that risk for the reward of welcoming a baby in their lives (a wonderful thing, btw), then that's their choice. I wish them the absolute best. But I honestly do not feel that it's fair to force a victim of rape/incest to undergo a pregnancy and forced into accepting those medical risks if they did not choose that, voluntarily. However, decide quickly. Once the fetus is 'viable' ex utero (or however you measure it - fetal heart beat or whatever), then that's it. That baby needs to be brought to term and born, even if given away for adoption later.
Did you say clammer?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
This is literally the wet dream of countless Dixie flag rednecks. Would be a great reality check for the aggressive mob thug BLM folks.
Literally hundreds of 300BO carbines and pistols in every county south of Montgomery, that are under glass that says, "break in case of Antifa riot".
Yeah. That would be a colossal mistake.
 
so apparently, not having sex with homicidal maniacs is not an option?
you know who she is talking about too, don't you?

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If that's the bullshit that you want to make up to feel better, fine, but that's not what I said at all. It's funny how stupid people start putting words in others mouths and twisting them to get the meaning they want.

My beliefs of when a fetus becomes a person are totally irrelevant and are only my beliefs and also don't align with my beliefs of when I believe a pregnancy should be able to be terminated. I would say you're not a person until you come out of the womb and take your first breaths. I'm sure you'll try to twist that into me somehow saying its ok to abort a fetus up until the day of birth however.

A fetus is a fetus while it's in the womb and that's undeniable. My beliefs of what is acceptable for abortion is again pretty irrelevant, but if you're that curious... IMO if a women hasn't figured out that she's pregnant with an unwanted fetus by the end of the first trimester, then I don't know what to say. At that point at least two periods have been missed and I think that you should know you have a fetus growing in side of you. Most birth defects are detectable by the end of the first trimester or within the first couple weeks of the second, so if someone chooses to abort based on that, well I think thats a reasonable time frame too.

I don't think the cases of rape or incest should be any different and ideally someone should go to the police when they're raped and take a contraceptive but given the fact that it's often times a family member or someone they know I can understand why they don't, and I couldn't imagine something as traumatizing as being raped so I think it's unreasonable to expect someone to be in the headspace to go get a plan b and take it or think about the possibility of getting pregnant and having a rape baby.
For the moment, let’s confine ourselves to purely elective abortion. No rape, no health concerns, just basically rescue contraception from consensual sex. So in your own words, a fetus isn’t a baby until it hits the air, but you only think it’s “reasonable” to abort a fetus until about 15 weeks or so. Do correct me if I’m wrong.

So what’s in there from 15 weeks to 40 weeks you personally find unreasonable to abort?

It’s a fetus, not a baby, so why not? I’m not talking about anybody else, just you. Can you tell me what’s in there at 22 weeks or 30 weeks or even 15 weeks and a day that isn’t in there at 14 weeks and 6 days; you know, when it’s still “reasonable” to dispose of? I challenge you to answer this specifically. If you can’t, I’ll report you to Mensa and they’ll come confiscate your certificate from your room.

Also, your beliefs do matter. There are many Muslim cultures where women have zero rights, no education, and are little more than property. I’m not betting on you caring much if it was your daughter, but let’s say your sister or your mother had to live under that. I bet way more than 60% of those (men) surveyed there would say they agree. Would your beliefs be totally irrelevant then as well? Is that just what they do over there or is it still wrong, regardless of what any majority thinks? Again, defend your logic or surrender your certificate. (Why do I picture that on a 12 year old’s bedroom wall…?). Let’s all see you flex that big brain of yours. 👀
 
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Ok, I haven’t the time or inclination to peruse this entire thread, so flame me if you like.

THIS IS 2022 FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!!!!

Why the fuck are we talking about abortion? Why is any one person having an unwanted pregnancy today. There are so MANY ways to not make a baby. The fucking liberals will probably pay you to NOT MAKE A BABY. People are acting like every woman in America is in need of an abortion at some point in their life. The reality is that If women and MEN would be responsible, this topic would play itself out.

But oh how the left leaning democrats will have a heyday with this!

And by the way…..didn’t hose last two cock licks appointed to the supreme smoke and mirrors court state at their hearings in the senate that the the Roe V Wade had been decided and precedence was in place?

The Supreme Court is nothing more than a puppet arm of the Republican Party , that will ultimately hand down rulings that will affect all of us in the future.

Don’t give a fuck about republican or democrat, but when you testify UNDER OATH, in front of the US senate for your confirmation hearing, your word as a justice is golden. Evidently not.

Fuck those assholes.
 
Ok, I haven’t the time or inclination to peruse this entire thread, so flame me if you like.

THIS IS 2022 FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!!!!

Why the fuck are we talking about abortion? Why is any one person having an unwanted pregnancy today. There are so MANY ways to not make a baby. The fucking liberals will probably pay you to NOT MAKE A BABY. People are acting like every woman in America is in need of an abortion at some point in their life. The reality is that If women and MEN would be responsible, this topic would play itself out.

But oh how the left leaning democrats will have a heyday with this!

And by the way…..didn’t hose last two cock licks appointed to the supreme smoke and mirrors court state at their hearings in the senate that the the Roe V Wade had been decided and precedence was in place?

The Supreme Court is nothing more than a puppet arm of the Republican Party , that will ultimately hand down rulings that will affect all of us in the future.

Don’t give a fuck about republican or democrat, but when you testify UNDER OATH, in front of the US senate for your confirmation hearing, your word as a justice is golden. Evidently not.

Fuck those assholes.
hmm.
i think the idiot liberals forced the court to review "settled law" because they demanded late term abortions in a conservative state.
this would be a non-issue except evil democrat scum want to be able to murder kids up until and after they are born (if the mother can't figure out a way to get rich or at least be supported by keeping the baby).
 
Found the liberal

Sorry we took away your right to kill babies fuckface

Yeah, they lied to you that they would keep your rights to kill babies intact....stay mad about it....because the left had never lied, lol

"BUt tHEY PrOmISED!"

Get fucked
Bro! It ain’t about liberal or conservative. It’s about 2022 and why does ANYONE FUCKING NEED AN ABORTION? Can these fucksticks not figure out how people make babies? Furthermore , who gives a fuck? With all the shit going down in this fucked up country right now why is abortion at the top of the list? Shall I make you a list of all the shit going on? Abortion is penny ante shit in the scheme of things right now.

But you da man! You go on record and define when life begins …..before your maker. Mr all knowing holier than thou!
 
Ok, I haven’t the time or inclination to peruse this entire thread, so flame me if you like.

THIS IS 2022 FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!!!!

Why the fuck are we talking about abortion? Why is any one person having an unwanted pregnancy today. There are so MANY ways to not make a baby. The fucking liberals will probably pay you to NOT MAKE A BABY. People are acting like every woman in America is in need of an abortion at some point in their life. The reality is that If women and MEN would be responsible, this topic would play itself out.

But oh how the left leaning democrats will have a heyday with this!

And by the way…..didn’t hose last two cock licks appointed to the supreme smoke and mirrors court state at their hearings in the senate that the the Roe V Wade had been decided and precedence was in place?

The Supreme Court is nothing more than a puppet arm of the Republican Party , that will ultimately hand down rulings that will affect all of us in the future.

Don’t give a fuck about republican or democrat, but when you testify UNDER OATH, in front of the US senate for your confirmation hearing, your word as a justice is golden. Evidently not.

Fuck those assholes.

No, fuck you. Those justices not did lie. Roe v Wade had been decided and was precedent. That was a fact.

Second, the people you just spat on just gave a lot of vulnerable people the ability to defend themselves. That arm of the Republican Party you despise so. Fuck You!
 
A quote from an article at The Federalist very relevant to arguments raised by the loudest dum-dum of this thread:

“Lawrence Keitt, a congressman from South Carolina, expressed the same idea in a speech to the U.S. House of Representatives on January 25, 1860:

African slavery is the corner-stone of the industrial, social, and political fabric of the South; and whatever wars against it, wars against her very existence. Strike down the institution of African slavery and you reduce the South to depopulation and barbarism.
Those quotes are broadly representative. Southern Democrats believed the denial of all rights to black people — and indeed the denial of their personhood — was integral to what they understood to be their constitutionally protected rights, without which they would cease to be citizens with equal rights as their northern counterparts.

The exact same thing can be said of today’s pro-abortion Democrats. They believe that the denial of all rights to the unborn is integral to what they understand to be women’s constitutionally protected rights, without which they will cease to be citizens with equal rights as their male counterparts. If women are not allowed to kill their unborn babies, they will be stripped of their full humanity, just as stripping slavery from southern whites meant, to them, stripping full humanity from white people.”

 
No, fuck you. Those justices not did lie. Roe v Wade had been decided and was precedent. That was a fact.

Second, the people you just spat on just gave a lot of vulnerable people the ability to defend themselves. That arm of the Republican Party you despise so. Fuck You!
Oh! You mean the same bunch that gave rise to the new gun laws passed by the senate and the house that now makes it a crime for an 18 year old to “assault” his or her girlfriend, and now becomes “domestic violence “ that same 18 year old can NOT buy a pistol or semi auto rifle, because they don’t have the maturity to make rational decisions, but now is responsible for his or her immature actions regarding their boyfriend/ girlfriend.

That same bunch?
 
Yeah, murdering babies is back burner bullshit....we need to focus on more pressing issues like ......like.........well like you know the thing.


When separate DNA is created....see, that wasn't so hard was it?

But yeah, great 'own' there bud....really got me lol

Continue with those crocodile tears.
Weak response bro….you can do better
 
they still have the plan b option, which isn't abortion imo.
...but they don't have time to find out if they can make money off the baby first cause it must be taken within a few days.
 
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Oh! You mean the same bunch that gave rise to the new gun laws passed by the senate and the house that now makes it a crime for an 18 year old to “assault” his or her girlfriend, and now becomes “domestic violence “ that same 18 year old can NOT buy a pistol or semi auto rifle, because they don’t have the maturity to make rational decisions, but now is responsible for his or her immature actions regarding their boyfriend/ girlfriend.

That same bunch?

You are insane. Fuck off.
 
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Let’s get down to the basics of the entire argument. If the 12 year old child is defiled by an uncle , brother, father, neighbor, or a rapist, do we as a society really want to make her relive the horror of giving berth to the demon seed of that asshole? I think not!
If the 22 year old whore who is partying like 1999 and bangin every dude in town get s knocked up, should she get an abortion. Fuck no!

Gentlemen, what man in his right mind would ask his daughter to carry to term a child conceived under the pre-mentioned conditions? Or if her life were In jeopardy?

Can’t imagine anyone on here would say yes to that. If so, you are a much bigger man than I.
 
And another thing….

A lot of pro abortion folks talk about “the cost to society”, and how “nobody wants to take care of them”, “it’s a clump of cells, not even recognizable as a person. There life will be nothing but misery anyway”. These things exclude someone from being a person, worthy of having their life defended?

Oh really?

What about the elderly as a group? They consume BY FAR the majority of healthcare dollars for what benefit to quality of life and society as a whole. Why not just kill them all before they get too expensive? Imagine the savings.

What about all the Down’s syndrome and severely autistic kids? Why not just take hammer to their skulls to save their families the life of worry and trouble? Wouldn’t it be easier?

How about the veteran IED victim? Triple amputee, burn victim, light traumatic brain injury. He can’t walk, can’t talk like he used to, looks different. Why not just put him out of his misery? He’ll have no quality of life right? It’d save money for society, and trouble for his family too. A regular hat trick.

These examples sound evil and despicable because they are, but the arguments I started with supporting abortion require the same logic.
 
Let’s get down to the basics of the entire argument. If the 12 year old child is defiled by an uncle , brother, father, neighbor, or a rapist, do we as a society really want to make her relive the horror of giving berth to the demon seed of that asshole? I think not!
If the 22 year old whore who is partying like 1999 and bangin every dude in town get s knocked up, should she get an abortion. Fuck no!

Gentlemen, what man in his right mind would ask his daughter to carry to term a child conceived under the pre-mentioned conditions? Or if her life were In jeopardy?

Can’t imagine anyone on here would say yes to that. If so, you are a much bigger man than I.
Maybe your mom was raped by her brother... she still didn’t abort you. Food for thoughts.
 
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Let’s get down to the basics of the entire argument. If the 12 year old child is defiled by an uncle , brother, father, neighbor, or a rapist, do we as a society really want to make her relive the horror of giving berth to the demon seed of that asshole? I think not!
If the 22 year old whore who is partying like 1999 and bangin every dude in town get s knocked up, should she get an abortion. Fuck no!

Gentlemen, what man in his right mind would ask his daughter to carry to term a child conceived under the pre-mentioned conditions? Or if her life were In jeopardy?

Can’t imagine anyone on here would say yes to that. If so, you are a much bigger man than I.
that is why i am pro-choice, and not pro-abortion or pro-life.
the choice however needs to be made before they conceive a child, not after.

99% of abortions are the result of a choice they made to have unprotected sex.
 
Let’s get down to the basics of the entire argument. If the 12 year old child is defiled by an uncle , brother, father, neighbor, or a rapist, do we as a society really want to make her relive the horror of giving berth to the demon seed of that asshole? I think not!
If the 22 year old whore who is partying like 1999 and bangin every dude in town get s knocked up, should she get an abortion. Fuck no!

Gentlemen, what man in his right mind would ask his daughter to carry to term a child conceived under the pre-mentioned conditions? Or if her life were In jeopardy?

Can’t imagine anyone on here would say yes to that. If so, you are a much bigger man than I.
The same old microscopic percentage argument.
90-95 percent of all abortions aren't rape or incest.

R
 
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