I ordered the 6.5 competition rifle last night. I think I may cancel the order and order a masterpiece arms 6.5 for a few hundred bucks more
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Create a channel Learn moreThe tikka is a superior action in almost every way. Its WAY smoother to run.Imo,
It fills the gap between a Tikka action, and a full custom.
Tikka ctr is what, $1100ish?
You could have the Solus triggered and stocked for $1,600. (yeah, some sales were cheaper)
Cheapest Origin build with the same stock and trigger is $2,100ish.
So yeah, I'd say it's probably worth it at it's price point.
The Solus comp is $1504 right now. The cheapest MPA is ~$2,300. How are you getting "a few hundred bucks more"?I ordered the 6.5 competition rifle last night. I think I may cancel the order and order a masterpiece arms 6.5 for a few hundred bucks more
The Solus comp is $1504 right now. The cheapest MPA is ~$2,300. How are you getting "a few hundred bucks more"?
I ordered the 6.5 competition rifle last night. I think I may cancel the order and order a masterpiece arms 6.5 for a few hundred bucks more
Got a link to one you can actually purchase at that price? Because that’s $2,450 on their site with a 3+ month lead time.
I do wish it had some extra flair…At minimum a spiral-fluted bolt would look sexy as hell in it.The Solus is the lego-model action for people who need/want an R700 pattern action. As nice as Tikkas are as a cheap package, they have some COAL limitations, have limited trigger options if you want a different shoe/2-stage, and have a small barrel tenon. R700's are the easist action out there to find stocks and accessories for, and savage small-shank is very well supported on the barrel market for on the shelf or takeoff options. And if you really want a for-fun gun you can grab a savage takeoff barrel for $200, throw it on your $600 Solus and rip.
But at the end of the day, it's soulless. It is devoid of beauty. It is the minimum-viable product.
Aero definitely kept a theme going with the chamfers/angles, like on the bolt shroud. Having AW compatibility is cool. Even Faxon did some cool stuff with their new bolt action, but… it’s a Faxon.I do wish it had some extra flair…At minimum a spiral-fluted bolt would look sexy as hell in it.
I’m sure ARC will continue to make CDG’s as fast as humanly possible while trying to realistically scale production as much as they can without overshooting. Those will continue to sell extremely well for several years. They are fantastic actions for the money, if you want to wait for them., I don’t know that there’s many CDG’s being pumped out but the Aero’s will probably be made in a fairly good volume.
I agree, I have one on order. I don't know how big ARC is, but I don't know that they're pumping enough CDG production to majorly affect the AW mag market; but them plus Aero now making AW mag compatible actions might cause a magazine bottleneck.I’m sure ARC will continue to make CDG’s as fast as humanly possible while trying to realistically scale production as much as they can without overshooting. Those will continue to sell extremely well for several years. They are fantastic actions for the money, if you want to wait for them.
you are aware that MPA was known for making Shit Mac 11s before they got into the precision rifle business but look at them now...Zermatt origin is a way better option. They have been around longer and arent known for making shit quality ar parts to begin with. Why anyone would buy this over an origin is beyond me and stupid
I am a big ARC fan. But are we gonna pretend that Zermatt, Defiance, Impact, Badger, Stiller, Curtis, Terminus, Lone Peak, and others didn't make AW compatible actions years before the CDG and Solus were even announced.I agree, I have one on order. I don't know how big ARC is, but I don't know that they're pumping enough CDG production to majorly affect the AW mag market; but them plus Aero now making AW mag compatible actions might cause a magazine bottleneck.
I think they're saying since 2 of the newest actions that will sell very well both take AW mags, there will be a noticeable increase in demand for them.I am a big ARC fan. But are we gonna pretend that Zermatt, Defiance, Impact, Badger, Stiller, Curtis, Terminus, Lone Peak, and others didn't make AW compatible actions years before the CDG and Solus were even announced.
I totally forgot about their dumpster fire abortion Mac11's...you are aware that MPA was known for making Shit Mac 11s before they got into the precision rifle business but look at them now...
Maybe start seeing some aftermarket 10, 12 and 15 roundersI think they're saying since 2 of the newest actions that will sell very well both take AW mags, there will be a noticeable increase in demand for them.
The tikka is a superior action in almost every way. Its WAY smoother to run.
Yes, but now there is a big volume increase hitting the market. These guys aren’t the first, but they’re the first flagship options in big demand to offer it. Even the Zermatt offering with AW compatibility is relatively quite rare in comparison to the huge volume of its AICS action (Origin).I am a big ARC fan. But are we gonna pretend that Zermatt, Defiance, Impact, Badger, Stiller, Curtis, Terminus, Lone Peak, and others didn't make AW compatible actions years before the CDG and Solus were even announced.
IMH, UNexpert opinion, the Aero doesn't appear to be a bad action... But I wouldn't recommend one over a Tikka action until the Solus has been around for 10-15 years and proves itself. But it does look like a decent value. But WTF do I really know!
If you think ARC missed the boat on anything by making a coned breach for optimal feeding from any mag configuration, you deserve the Solus.I finally got mine out the range. 20" fluted .308 barreled action. I added a Trigger Tech Special and tried to throw it in a HS Precision stock, using HS Precision bottom metal. About an hour of dremelling the top of the trigger guard later, I got it to fit. I think that the trigger hanger pushes the trigger down 1/10 of an inch or so, so the bottom metal wouldn't screw into the receiver without removing material from where it hit the bottom of the trigger. I wasn't expecting this, and so it was a little frustrating.
I shot about 8 five round groups at 100, using a 10x Leupold. Groups ranged from just under half an inch, to just over an inch, with an inch being about the average. This is with 168 FGMM. I think if I was using slightly higher magnification, groups would likely have shrunk a little, but I was honestly pleased with this level of accuracy, because I think it will likely settle in to being a .~75 MOA gun.
Its a 60 degree bolt throw, and the lift really feels fine. It did keep hanging up when it came time to feed the next round. Basically, with the bolt retracted all the way to the rear, it took a pretty good push to get the bolt feeding forward. I'd never experienced this dry firing or using snap caps before getting out the range. I don't think the bullets were hanging up on the feed ramp. Temperature out was 33 F, and I'd put a light layer of EWL on the bolt, so who knows if that was leading it to bind, but it didn't feed very smoothly, like I'm used to with my ARC Nucleus. Again though, bolt lift felt good.
I had been on the fence between this and the CDG, and the fact that I got a barreled action for the same price, effectively, as the CDG, is a screaming good deal. I think ARC really missed the mark by saying that the CDG wasn't compatible with older Nucleus barrels in the smaller bolt faces. It sounds like the Solus should be, at least in terms of barrel nut barrels. I don't know that I'll ever use the AW mag option, which is why the CDG change just rubbed me the wrong way, since I was already pretty invested in the Nucleus system.
Doing it again, I'd have ordered the full rifle that comes with the KRG Bravo and Trigger Tech, which they've had on sale for less than $1300. Thats just a crazy deal for a Remington pattern with built in lug and rail, and Origin tenon, and I wouldn't have had to do any work on the trigger guard. I do wish these had been offered in slimmer barrel profiles. I'd been hoping the 20" fluted Sendero would be lightish, but its pretty stout. I'd love to see some #4 or #5 contours offered by AP, especially if they could pair that with lighter stocks. I'm guessing a lighter, hunting version will come out eventually, and I'll probably buy another at that point.
I'll shoot it a bunch more and report back, but on the whole I'm pretty pleased with the insane value the Solus represents. I may try coating the bolt at some point, if people report that helps with feeding, and I REALLY want a round ball knob for the bolt, but it does feel like a custom action, and I didn't pay a custom price. I think this product represents the economy of scale that had been missing in this space and its exciting to see what AP does next - carbon stocks? Their own trigger? Long actions? They could really eat up some market segment once they start targeting hunters. This is a much better product than some rifles costing 2x or 3x as much.
10-15 years? You mean like years longer than just about any current action that gets discussed here on a day to day basis? Maybe im missing the sarcasmIMH, UNexpert opinion, the Aero doesn't appear to be a bad action... But I wouldn't recommend one over a Tikka action until the Solus has been around for 10-15 years and proves itself. But it does look like a decent value. But WTF do I really know!
I'd DAMN sure take the Solus over a Bergara or Christensen.I would 100% recommend a Tikka as the starting place for anyone looking for a hunting rifle. As good as the Solus price is, only their lowest price offering, in the KRG, is even close to the price of a Tikka, and that is heavily discounted Black Friday pricing anyway. Tikkas are simple, bullet proof, turnkey guns.
But for people who want to shoot a barrel out, or swap calibers, or stay within the Rem 700 trigger and stock family, I think the Solus is probably the new standard, and I'd pick it over a Christensen or Bergara, and many others. I don't expect it to eat at the market share of established PRS actions or other high end customs, because the features and options aren't there. But that isn't the point, the point is that they've brought the entry price down for "custom" actions by a few hundred dollars, and that is something that ALL of us should be celebrating.
Right,10-15 years? You mean like years longer than just about any current action that gets discussed here on a day to day basis? Maybe im missing the sarcasm
Right,
Not like Origin or CDG are antiques.
How does it feel like a custom action yet not even feed right and binds??? thats crazy and the whole point of this thread.I finally got mine out the range. 20" fluted .308 barreled action. I added a Trigger Tech Special and tried to throw it in a HS Precision stock, using HS Precision bottom metal. About an hour of dremelling the top of the trigger guard later, I got it to fit. I think that the trigger hanger pushes the trigger down 1/10 of an inch or so, so the bottom metal wouldn't screw into the receiver without removing material from where it hit the bottom of the trigger. I wasn't expecting this, and so it was a little frustrating.
I shot about 8 five round groups at 100, using a 10x Leupold. Groups ranged from just under half an inch, to just over an inch, with an inch being about the average. This is with 168 FGMM. I think if I was using slightly higher magnification, groups would likely have shrunk a little, but I was honestly pleased with this level of accuracy, because I think it will likely settle in to being a .~75 MOA gun.
Its a 60 degree bolt throw, and the lift really feels fine. It did keep hanging up when it came time to feed the next round. Basically, with the bolt retracted all the way to the rear, it took a pretty good push to get the bolt feeding forward. I'd never experienced this dry firing or using snap caps before getting out the range. I don't think the bullets were hanging up on the feed ramp. Temperature out was 33 F, and I'd put a light layer of EWL on the bolt, so who knows if that was leading it to bind, but it didn't feed very smoothly, like I'm used to with my ARC Nucleus. Again though, bolt lift felt good.
I had been on the fence between this and the CDG, and the fact that I got a barreled action for the same price, effectively, as the CDG, is a screaming good deal. I think ARC really missed the mark by saying that the CDG wasn't compatible with older Nucleus barrels in the smaller bolt faces. It sounds like the Solus should be, at least in terms of barrel nut barrels. I don't know that I'll ever use the AW mag option, which is why the CDG change just rubbed me the wrong way, since I was already pretty invested in the Nucleus system.
Doing it again, I'd have ordered the full rifle that comes with the KRG Bravo and Trigger Tech, which they've had on sale for less than $1300. Thats just a crazy deal for a Remington pattern with built in lug and rail, and Origin tenon, and I wouldn't have had to do any work on the trigger guard. I do wish these had been offered in slimmer barrel profiles. I'd been hoping the 20" fluted Sendero would be lightish, but its pretty stout. I'd love to see some #4 or #5 contours offered by AP, especially if they could pair that with lighter stocks. I'm guessing a lighter, hunting version will come out eventually, and I'll probably buy another at that point.
I'll shoot it a bunch more and report back, but on the whole I'm pretty pleased with the insane value the Solus represents. I may try coating the bolt at some point, if people report that helps with feeding, and I REALLY want a round ball knob for the bolt, but it does feel like a custom action, and I didn't pay a custom price. I think this product represents the economy of scale that had been missing in this space and its exciting to see what AP does next - carbon stocks? Their own trigger? Long actions? They could really eat up some market segment once they start targeting hunters. This is a much better product than some rifles costing 2x or 3x as much.
Hornady brass???!! yep, that checks for someone pushing aero. you know there's quality components out there right? (ADG, Lapua, Alpha)Perhaps it's a mag, stock, bottom metal, action compatibility issue? Mine with the Magpul Aics is very smooth. Hard to feel the last few rounds unless you run the bolt slow.
Perhaps I just an idiot. I have a Solus with a junk XTR3 and I'm using a poor excuse for a bullet ELD in Hornady brass. The stars aligned for me
Do you have the correct magazine & mag latch combo? Are you using an AW mag latch and AICS mags and shoving the magazine into the action? Or AW mag latch and AICS mags and your magazine is sitting too low?Its a 60 degree bolt throw, and the lift really feels fine. It did keep hanging up when it came time to feed the next round. Basically, with the bolt retracted all the way to the rear, it took a pretty good push to get the bolt feeding forward. I'd never experienced this dry firing or using snap caps before getting out the range. I don't think the bullets were hanging up on the feed ramp. Temperature out was 33 F, and I'd put a light layer of EWL on the bolt, so who knows if that was leading it to bind, but it didn't feed very smoothly, like I'm used to with my ARC Nucleus. Again though, bolt lift felt good.
Hornady brass???!! yep, that checks for someone pushing aero. you know there's quality components out there right? (ADG, Lapua, Alpha)
what custom actions you own? I'd like to assume you didn't come in here talking good about that dog pile without ever owning a real action.I'm not pushing Aero just sharing that my first hand experience doesn't align with what you're saying.
what custom actions you own? I'd like to assume you didn't come in here talking good about that dog pile without ever owning a real action.
that makes the most sense. no, I don't a solus - I spend my money on quality parts and companies that actually innovate not just knock off existing products with poor QC. I don't have to own a solus for everything I have said about Aero to be true. Have a great day and please stop pushing this shit on people.I don't and have never owned a custom action except the Solus. Very limited experience with Defiance and Badland? I think it is that they make also.
Do you have a Solus?
Which is exactly why I immediately discount any opinions from the peanut gallery. No hands on experience, no effort to understand the root cause of the problems, just immediately blame the non-alpha tier equipment from a manufacturer that typically produces astronomical volumes of parts that the vast majority of users have no problem with. It's a freaking bolt gun. People are going to use odd combos of magazines, bottom metals, pillar heights, mag catch heights, etc. New users are going to jump in with no idea about mag tuning and round presentation. There's going to be speed bumps - it's no different even with the top brands, but we're going to see a higher rate of incidence due to higher sales and a less experienced demographic.that makes the most sense. no, I don't a solus - I spend my money on quality parts and companies that actually innovate not just knock off existing products with poor QC. I don't have to own a solus for everything I have said about Aero to be true. Have a great day and please stop pushing this shit on people.
Well, considering I was heavily invested in Nucleus barrels, bolt heads, etc, etc, and that the CDG doesn't support those barrels, and that I didn't want/need AW mag support because I'm also well invested in AICS mags... I think it was a mistake. I'm happy a bunch of people disagree, and I'm a big fan of ARC, but I do think they stepped on their dick and would have sold a lot more CDG if it was simply AICS compatible, without all the other engineering compromises they made to support a mag that isn't very popular for most uses. Maybe time proves me wrong, we'll see.If you think ARC missed the boat on anything by making a coned breach for optimal feeding from any mag configuration, you deserve the Solus.
Do you have the correct magazine & mag latch combo? Are you using an AW mag latch and AICS mags and shoving the magazine into the action? Or AW mag latch and AICS mags and your magazine is sitting too low?
I love it when people with zero experience with a subject buy some cheap thing then proceed to tell everyone how great it is.
Its like someone who has only eaten ground beef telling people its just as good as a prime ribeye, because they never had one.
You really should not be giving anyone advice, much less arguing with people when you don't even have a little bit of experience to be able to have an intelligent opinion.
I own a bunch of custom actions, factory actions and semi-custom stuff like tikka's reworked. Have owned most actions on the market. Have more rounds down range through a Solus Action (both as a custom build and in factory config) than most people in this thread who claim to own them. My buddies have more rounds through solus actions than anyone on the planet, including the shitty testers at aero. My qualified opinion is to stay away but by all means, listen to the kid whose first "custom" action is a mass produced one from a company that never even made bolt gun shit before. Nothing else needs to be said in this thread, So I am out.
I ran Impacts all last year. 737 in PRS and bench, NBK in NRL Hunter. I've ran Vudoo and Anschutz for years in NRL22. I know what some of the nicest feel like. I'm typically well over 80% (unless the wind kicks up), so I like to think I know what matters - "feel" is way, way down on the list.I love it when people with zero experience with a subject buy some cheap thing then proceed to tell everyone how great it is.
Its like someone who has only eaten ground beef telling people its just as good as a prime ribeye, because they never had one.
there's multiple people in this thread stating they wouldn't buy it again or are having issues and you just want to ignore them to justify your cheap gun parts.I ran Impacts all last year. 737 in PRS and bench, NBK in NRL Hunter. I've ran Vudoo and Anschutz for years in NRL22. I know what some of the nicest feel like. I'm typically well over 80% (unless the wind kicks up), so I like to think I know what matters - "feel" is way, way down on the list.
So far, I will absolutely recommend the Solus to anyone wanting to get into the games with a budget or wanting a 60deg without a wait.
If you guys hate Aero, that's fine. We're all entitled to our own opinions. But unless you can demonstrate why a specific product is unacceptable (after ruling out other causes like mags/fitment/maintenance), you have no factual basis for your position on that product.
Define a “lot more”? They had a 6 month production head start on orders and from the very first order had a 4 month backlog, which continues to this day with zero decline. They gave you everything your nuke had plus a bunch more features and shaved $200 off the price in the process. Can you imagine the size of the margin its outselling the nuke and mausingfield at the moment? I get your gripe about the barrels, but they knocked it out of the park.Well, considering I was heavily invested in Nucleus barrels, bolt heads, etc, etc, and that the CDG doesn't support those barrels, and that I didn't want/need AW mag support because I'm also well invested in AICS mags... I think it was a mistake. I'm happy a bunch of people disagree, and I'm a big fan of ARC, but I do think they stepped on their dick and would have sold a lot more CDG if it was simply AICS compatible, without all the other engineering compromises they made to support a mag that isn't very popular for most uses. Maybe time proves me wrong, we'll see.
What is the pillar height in the HS stock? Does the mag latch in firmly with little to no play?I was using an HS Stock, HS Bottom Metal, HS Gen 1.5 mags (1.5 stack to single feed). I'd started by trying to install it into a Christensen MPR Chassis, but I had the same issue, i.e. the top of the bottom metal was hitting the bottom of the trigger housing and the action screws wouldn't seat. I didn't want to bubba-gunsmith the Christensen, so I worked on the HS until it fit. I didn't measure the overall depth of the trigger compared to a traditional, non-hanger setup, but my assumption was about 1/10 inch lower.
Everything fed great with dummy rounds, the binding was out at the range, while shooting from bags on the bench, but again, I've shot this thing once and would like to start eliminating variables.
No, there isn't. One user said they bought one, it was acceptable, they will continue to use, but won't buy another. The only one that is advocating against it only claims to have more rounds down range than anyone else in this thread, and only after actual user experience was called into question, despite making no mention of said experience prior in this and other threads (they'd only said they've seen them run and have issues, with no supporting information). The other user is trying to troubleshoot issues common to all rifles, not just the Solus. You can't even toss flagship parts together and expect 100% reliability out of the gate, why are you expecting it out of the budget option? Hell, that's why MDT and others use adjustable mag catches and shimming systems. Some fitting is expected with any custom DIY build.there's multiple people in this thread stating they wouldn't buy it again or are having issues and you just want to ignore them to justify your cheap gun parts.