Many around here who took the jab now showing same.

I got the initial two-dose Pfizer in March/April 2021 and a booster in Nov 2021. Other than the first dose making my arm sore and sleeping like garbage, I'm sorry to say I haven't suffered any ill effects or mutations.

I did get COVID in July 2022 for the first time so there's that...but it was nothing worse than a mild summer cold.

I know far, far, far more people who had severe COVID leading to hospitalization (half-dozen or so) and death (one) than I know people who have experienced significant side effects directly attributed to COVID vaccination (zero).

Everybody's experience is different, and those experiences including my own are anecdotal.

I also get a flu shot every fall and have since my freshman year of college. No, it hasn't 100% prevented me from getting the flu but when I have tested positive for flu A or B my illness hasn't been too miserable...I was WAY sicker when I had it in high school than I've been since with the exception of New Years Eve 2014 - that flu put me on my ass for 3 days and totally sucked. I think the efficacy of the flu vaccine that year ended up being less than 20%.

Y'all do you and all that.

My experience pretty much mirrored yours. I got the initial "two dose" jabs of Pfizer about the same time, just to keep my mom happy and quiet. :eek: :ROFLMAO: For me, it was the 2nd dose that cause me issues but, relatively, minor ones (just seemed like a 24hr flu bug, but a real one with weakness, sleepiness, etc.). Other than that, nothing, so far. I made sure I was properly masked when out in public, which wasn't that often. Thank goodness things are pretty much back to normal (re: Covid).

I don't do flu shots. To date, I have resisted meds and procedures/equipment recommended to me, if they don't make sense or if my BS-Meter tells me this is something the doctor is "incentivized" to push by the medical industrial complex (mostly the pharmaceutical industry, but also the medical equipment industry). Although I've improved, recently, I still have sleep issues at times (either falling asleep or staying asleep). I've already been through three different (so called) sleep specialists who have pushed "CPAP" or "BiPAP" machines which range in price from $700 - $5,000. Not only the price, but the simple fact that they are totally uncomfortale to use at night. I can't get to sleep with one of those on. There are alternative "tounge placement devices" for roughly $80.00 that help keep you from snoring and experiencing sleep apnea. Still, that ENT continues to push CPAP. I want to know how much the CPAP people are paying him to push CPAP machines...

But I digress. Let us hope I don't have any cardiology issues related to the jabs.
 
Typical. All or nothing, like a teenage soldier. Your entire presentation will now be ignored because you immediately act like a child when asked to actually engage with intelligence.
I’m sorry, to what “ presentation “ are you referring? The post to which I was responding referred to “ vaccines “ in the plural. I simply was trying to determine if the poster was referring to ALL of the numerous vaccines we have for communicable diseases or just the one for influenza. I suppose that if asking a question that might even hint at a possible disagreement with a standard Sniper’s Hide position on an issue constitutes “ acting like a child”, then guilty as charged I guess.
 
You are correct. It will take bodies stacked up along side the road, zombies trying to break into my house, or people growing extra extremities overnight before i'd believe another thing the govt tells me related to this subject.
Upon further reflection, perhaps this is indeed more of an anti-government sentiment than anything else , with medical science and research suffering as collateral damage. Resistance to vaccination is hardly anything new. Even though it was one of the greatest scourges in the history of man, even after Edward Jenner ‘s development of the smallpox vaccine in 1796, there was resistance with many claiming that the inoculation procedure was more deadly than naturally contracting smallpox, evidence to the contrary be damned. It was even claimed that smallpox was God’s retribution for sin. There was also resistance from members of the clergy against using a substance derived from cows. Fortunately, reason prevailed and smallpox was eradicated in the 1970’s ( provided, of course, one believes the World Health Organization, which I’m certain some here do not ).
 
i think this has turned into an argument about 2 separate issues 1) all vaccines are bad or useless 2) some vaccines are bad or useless. prior to '80 or even '90 i believe there is scant evidence of harm from vaccines in general and good evidence that they are helpful,even necessary. at some point which i can't identify the vaccines became a cash cow for the MIC. invented and pushed for diseases that were of marginal significance or occurrence. propaganda pushed by the MIC to make them look essential. if you look at the # of vaccines most of us got into the 80s or so there were only a few. the diseases they addressed became rare over the prev 40-50 years. small pox and polio good examples. harm from the shots was rare and,yes,downplayed or ignored. on balance those were of great benefit.
the problem comes sometime in the 21st when new mRna tech was invented and pushed. it was and still is unstudied and in no way can be shown as safe or effective. it was a tech looking for a market for 10 years or so. control of it was gained by insane,dangerous and murderous actors and it's profitability the same.
covid was a manufactured disease. paid for and started in the US,moved to China,developed,released and spread from there. this was a deliberate destabilization action and a somewhat successful attempt at genocide. that all was a planned action whose malignant benefit to the NWO masters is pretty clear now. the "emergency" authorization,foot prints,mask,forced social isolation actions were greeted all over the world by the the rulers,i think spontaneously and aped everywhere. the known genocide caused by the vaccines was likely predicted and certainly approved by the Gates/Soros group.
the problem as stated by others here is that now anybody with a brain and a pulse is going to question anything coming from the gov,MIC or any doctor. if they tell the truth,for a change,nobody will take any recommended action possibly to their own harm.
 
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What strains are included in each year’s vaccine may often change based upon epidemiological predictions for a given flu season. The problem is that it’s something of a crap shoot
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agree. hate to,but....have said i can't swear i would refuse if i wasn't retired. like to think so but hard to know and meaningless to say after the fact. 1 daughter and both Grsons "had" to take it. no shot,no work thus no income where they were positioned. a true destructive crime against society on many levels. deserves kinetic resolution that will never happen.
 
Oh GTFO

People in medical field. Married with. Kids. Big student loads. Mortgage. Daycare.

wtf were they supposed to do ?
Just say no….COVID was an NWO/WEF mark of the beast style practice run. I get what you’re saying I do, but this is not the last time something like this will happen. It is written.
 
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I’m probably older (77)than 90 % on Snipers Hide . I lived through the polio years and clearly remember the abject terror. The movie Contagion ( 2011 ) was somewhat prescient when it comes to Covid , complete with alternative treatments ( forsythia = ivermectin) and skepticism of the government. Worth a look considering our recent past.
same age same memory. remember the route changes my parents made during vacations around know hot spots. best bud in HS was a survivor. had 1 bad leg. knew a guy at the gym i used. polio no legs 18" arms and benched > 400 in the late 60s. used to rag him about his bad power lift total cause his squat #age sucked. saw him do 1 arm DB curls with 60s. at this time a 400lb bench was almost unheard of. was like 3 guys in Tampa that could do it. polio was a real thing and the Salk wiped it out IMHO. i am not anti vax but back in the day there was trust in the MIC and docs. at least vaccines seem to have been checked for safety and efficacy. can't believe that anymore.
 
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Just say no….COVID was an NWO/WEF mark of the beast style practice run. I get what you’re saying I do, but this is not the last time something like this will happen. It is written.
I always felt the same way. I'm married. Two kids. Mortgage. All the usual bills that come with life in the modern age. There was serious talk in the plant I work in of requiring the vax to work there. The wife and I talked about it. There was no choice to be made. If it came down to it, I was going to be looking for another way to feed my family. Some of us are just different.

In my opinion, the ones that submitted can't be trusted.
 
In my opinion, the ones that submitted can't be trusted.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ right here.
Those I trusted prior,... no longer. If they will sell out for status quo, they would sell you out for a hamburger before missing one meal or going hungry.
 
Another vax thread with vax/no vax stories… Sounds fun.

Just remember, no one was forced to take this jab. A lot of folks think they were, but they did it willingly.

I worked for a 10k employee corporation during the Covid BS, and they were paying employees 1,000 bucks to go get the jab. It was never a company mandate to get it, but it was highly encouraged, even to the extent of bribing their employees with money.
Needless to say I no longer work for them.

My wife would disagree and tell you to go fuck yourself.
 
I always felt the same way. I'm married. Two kids. Mortgage. All the usual bills that come with life in the modern age. There was serious talk in the plant I work in of requiring the vax to work there. The wife and I talked about it. There was no choice to be made. If it came down to it, I was going to be looking for another way to feed my family. Some of us are just different.
This is what pushed a lot of people into becoming self employed. You will never get those folks back into working for someone else ever again.
 
I always felt the same way. I'm married. Two kids. Mortgage. All the usual bills that come with life in the modern age. There was serious talk in the plant I work in of requiring the vax to work there. The wife and I talked about it. There was no choice to be made. If it came down to it, I was going to be looking for another way to feed my family. Some of us are just different.

In my opinion, the ones that submitted can't be trusted.
Sorry, just couldn’t let this go by. So, EVERYONE ( older adults? Medically compromised? Etc.) who was vaccinated against the coronavirus is by default untrustworthy?
 
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The sad truth is that whole C/F showed who bought into the system so deep, they thought their only out was take it vs loosing their job. The truth of that choice, is far deeper than that,... When you buy into a life style, it can turn on you in an instant unless your at the very top of the ladder. Even then your safety net may not be as big as you think it is,... if its all based on inked paper.
 
older adults? Medically compromised? Etc
Rehashing old news but big pharma worked on a vaccine for SARS-COV1 for 3 years and never came up with a vaccine. SARS-COV2 vaccine never helped anyone in fact exacerbated the problem due to increased shedding.

Operation Warp Speed was and is a scam nothing has changed.
 
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Rehashing old news but big pharma worked on a vaccine for SARS-COV1 for 3 years and never came up with a vaccine. SARS-COV2 vaccine never helped anyone in fact exacerbated the problem due to increased shedding.

Operation Warp Speed was and is a scam nothing has changed.
I was admittedly unaware that “ SARS-COV2 vaccine never helped anyone in fact exacerbated the problem due to increased shedding. “ As someone who spent a goodly portion of their educational and professional years in clinical microbiology and immunology in both civilian and military settings, I’d like to be more informed on this. Not necessarily doubting what you say, I’m sure you can understand my desire to review the studies that support your assertions. Thanks and I look forward to the references. If you prefer, you can PM those to me. Thanks again.
 
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I was admittedly unaware that “ SARS-COV2 vaccine never helped anyone in fact exacerbated the problem due to increased shedding. “ As someone who spent a goodly portion of their educational and professional years in clinical microbiology and immunology in both civilian and military settings, I’d like to be more informed on this. Not necessarily doubting what you say, I’m sure you can understand my desire to review the studies that support your assertions. Thanks and I look forward to the references. If you prefer, you can PM those to me. Thanks again.
No sir not going to spend all day typing out a response when it’s already been done here before multiple times.

Go up to the search bar and type in Covid and you will see many threads. Or you can search by member.
I know @theLBC , @UKDslayer , and @armorpl8chikn (and many others) all contributed detailed contributions to the many Covid threads here on SH.

I’m confident you’ll find the answers you are looking for.
 
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Another vax thread with vax/no vax stories… Sounds fun.

Just remember, no one was forced to take this jab. A lot of folks think they were, but they did it willingly.

I worked for a 10k employee corporation during the Covid BS, and they were paying employees 1,000 bucks to go get the jab. It was never a company mandate to get it, but it was highly encouraged, even to the extent of bribing their employees with money.
Needless to say I no longer work for them.
Coercion is a thing. There weren't enough jobs not doing it to cover all the people that wanted to avoid it. I don't begrudge people that felt they had to to get by. It was a shameful time in our history.
 
No sir not going to spend all day typing out a response when it’s already been done here before multiple times.

Go up to the search bar and type in Covid and you will see many threads. Or you can search by member.
I know @theLBC , @UKDslayer , and @armorpl8chikn (and many others) all contributed detailed contributions to the many Covid threads here on SH.

I’m confident you’ll find the answers you are looking for.




@Turkeytider
Either you lived under a rock for the last 4 years or....


The jab is a bioweapon. You can quote me on that. I was saying it before they were exposed.
The flu vaccine has always been a bioweapon along with most vaccines today.
 
I was admittedly unaware that “ SARS-COV2 vaccine never helped anyone in fact exacerbated the problem due to increased shedding. “ As someone who spent a goodly portion of their educational and professional years in clinical microbiology and immunology in both civilian and military settings, I’d like to be more informed on this. Not necessarily doubting what you say, I’m sure you can understand my desire to review the studies that support your assertions. Thanks and I look forward to the references. If you prefer, you can PM those to me. Thanks again.

See the Died Suddenly thread. Look up Peter McCullough (the most well respected, most published cardiologist in the US, head of cardiology at Methodist Dallas), Dr. Peter Malone, and Dr. Ryan Cole. They aren't quacks.
 
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@Turkeytider
Either you lived under a rock for the last 4 years or....


The jab is a bioweapon. You can quote me on that. I was saying it before they were exposed.
The flu vaccine has always been a bioweapon along with most vaccines today.

can't go 100% on that but some sure have been and with devastating effect. your point about "today's" is a very good one. the manuf has been perverted with the genetic attacking components. those likely added for profit or pop eradication. BOTH? there are diseases that immunity to is a huge benefit to humanity plague,polio,yellow fever,small pox to name a few. with the murderous corruption of the whole process by-we know who-the issue becomes Russian roulette. do you gamble on getting the disease or gamble on a drug that is not proven safe and shown to be damaging in many,many cases?
i'm too old for it to matter,as are many of us. there are still millions of little ones out there at risk from a 2 edged sword.
 
My wife, an RN is in a very unique position to observe this stuff. She is management at a mental health facility. A large portion of their patient group are there long term, some essentially permanently. They were all vaccinated. If the patient had any pre-existing conditions, diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, anemia, or any of the more exotic stuff, it exasperated them in almost every case, and none of them (at least as of our last conversation) ever returned to their original baseline. The number of patients who had none of these conditions, but developed them instantly or almost instantly after the jab is staggering. I don't have hard data, but from her observations, maybe 20% +/-. She's still caring for the same patients 5 years later, and the number of heart attacks, strokes and other debilitating illnesses skyrocketed when compared to the same facility pre-covid. They have had numerous deaths with no real explanation. Somebody seemingly healthy just dies in their sleep. It's not a nursing home either, so the ages and races are representative of the US population. Oh, and by the way, almost every single patient had covid after the shot, many had it multiple times. They only had one patient die of covid, but they've had dozens die since then that were otherwise healthy. The guy who died was in his 80's probably, but nobody knew how old he actually was. He'd been picked up off the street decades earlier, was from Cuba, here illegally, and his brain was too wrecked to get any answers out of him, so he just stayed there for decades. They couldn't even find a family member for him. He either didn't remember his last name, or he was refusing to tell them, so nobody knew what to do with him. He was already in bed dying when covid hit.
 
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This thread is completely worthless and just goes to show what fake news looks like. Slayer news? Really? You all are getting your panties bunched up over this? What a joke. Move on. mRNA vaccines have been around a long time and none of you ever questioned it. Covid wasn’t as bad as we thought and neither is the fucking vaccine.
 
This thread is completely worthless and just goes to show what fake news looks like. Slayer news? Really? You all are getting your panties bunched up over this? What a joke. Move on. mRNA vaccines have been around a long time and none of you ever questioned it. Covid wasn’t as bad as we thought and neither is the fucking vaccine.
wow,didn't know Fauci had buds on here. oh well. i guess footprints,social isolation and masks being a great part of a great plan were also instrumental in saving 1000s of lives. young vaxed athletes dropping dead is normal. happened all the time after Salk vaccines. we know that small pox vaccine has killed 1000s.
 
I think there is ample proof that wisdom doesn't always come with age. The people screaming at us to trust the government are all 60+ or infected with the liberal mind virus. They largely aren't getting the information that the rest of us are. They mostly lived their lives believing everything they heard or read from a media source was true and accurate. You can't unwind 6+ decades of successful brainwashing that quickly in some cases.
 
wow,didn't know Fauci had buds on here. oh well. i guess footprints,social isolation and masks being a great part of a great plan were also instrumental in saving 1000s of lives. young vaxed athletes dropping dead is normal. happened all the time after Salk vaccines. we know that small pox vaccine has killed 1000s.
Young vaxed athletes dropping dead? I guess you are a regular reader and believe of Slayer News 😂.
 
This thread is completely worthless and just goes to show what fake news looks like. Slayer news? Really? You all are getting your panties bunched up over this? What a joke. Move on. mRNA vaccines have been around a long time and none of you ever questioned it. Covid wasn’t as bad as we thought and neither is the fucking vaccine.
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This thread is completely worthless and just goes to show what fake news looks like. Slayer news? Really? You all are getting your panties bunched up over this? What a joke. Move on. mRNA vaccines have been around a long time and none of you ever questioned it. Covid wasn’t as bad as we thought and neither is the fucking vaccine.
They had to change the definition of vaccine to call it such, dumbass.
 
wow,didn't know Fauci had buds on here. oh well. i guess footprints,social isolation and masks being a great part of a great plan were also instrumental in saving 1000s of lives. young vaxed athletes dropping dead is normal. happened all the time after Salk vaccines. we know that small pox vaccine has killed 1000s.
Come on Mosin, I KNOW you’re not saying that we would have been better off if Jenner hadn’t developed the smallpox vaccine in 1796, or the Salk polio vaccine.
 
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This thread is completely worthless and just goes to show what fake news looks like. Slayer news? Really? You all are getting your panties bunched up over this? What a joke. Move on. mRNA vaccines have been around a long time and none of you ever questioned it. Covid wasn’t as bad as we thought and neither is the fucking vaccine.
Well, mRNA vaccines have actually NOT been around for a long time. The COVID-19 vaccine was the first FDA approved vaccine utilizing mRNA technology. What HAS been around for a while is research and development of the technology. That was initiated in the 1960’s.
 
Well, mRNA vaccines have actually NOT been around for a long time. The COVID-19 vaccine was the first FDA approved vaccine utilizing mRNA technology. What HAS been around for a while is research and development of the technology. That was initiated in the 1960’s.
I think uncle Adolph was working on it in the 30's and 40's, but it was too evil for him to test on humans.
 
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correct. i am pointing out to this recent Pfizer troll that there were no ,or at least very few, health and life destroying events associated with pre 90 vaccines. i am well aware of their benefits and have said so here. the "emergency" release of the covid shots has had many very bad well documented outcomes. shouldn't be surprised that many are still in thrall to the established narrative.
sarcasm dude!
 
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correct. i am pointing out to this recent Pfizer troll that there were no ,or at least very few, health and life destroying events associated with pre 90 vaccines. i am well aware of their benefits and have said so here. the "emergency" release of the covid shots has had many very bad well documented outcomes. shouldn't be surprised that many are still in thrall to the established narrative.
sarcasm dude!
Ok. I feel better now. Thanks. Smallpox was a monster. We ( White people ) used to contaminate blankets and send them to the Native American tribes. Biological warfare and genocide before the term was even invented.
 
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Well, mRNA vaccines have actually NOT been around for a long time. The COVID-19 vaccine was the first FDA approved vaccine utilizing mRNA technology. What HAS been around for a while is research and development of the technology. That was initiated in the 1960’s.
yes,but don't confuse the MIC lover with facts. i didn't bother,but OK. as i have said before and i am sure you know a place to find a market for that poison was a long search. Fauci jumped on it just like his pushing Remdesivir which was hugely profitable for him,his associates and the drug companies. well known to be consistently ineffective and lethal. but profitable so who cares?
 
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Ok. I feel better now. Thanks. Smallpox was a monster. We ( White people ) used to contaminate blankets and send them to the Native American tribes. Biological warfare and genocide before the term was even invented.
You probably don't realize that there is zero evidence that the small pox blankets thing ever happened. If it ever did, it was almost certainly unintentional. The "genocide" occurred from about 1500-1600 gove or take, and it was not intentional. Nobody even knew it was happening. 99% of the natives that died never even saw a white person, ever in their lives. It's the only "genocide" in history (a very disingenuous way to describe a bunch of people who's entire civilizations couldn't defeat the rhino virus) where nobody was intentionally killing anyone at any scale. You'd probably be amazed to find out how much stuff you're carrying around in your head that is absolutely bullshit.

Here's another one for you: the US government never made an effort to erradicate the Buffalo so the Indians would lose their food source. Like the above "genocide" shit, it's another lie. It all came from some lying sack of shit who claimed he heard Gen Sherman say it in Texas in about 1880. The problem was that it never happened, but people have been repeating these lies for over a century now.
 
You probably don't realize that there is zero evidence that the small pox blankets thing ever happened. If it ever did, it was almost certainly unintentional. The "genocide" occurred from about 1500-1600 gove or take, and it was not intentional. Nobody even knew it was happening. 99% of the natives that died never even saw a white person, ever in their lives. It's the only "genocide" in history (a very disingenuous way to describe a bunch of people who's entire civilizations couldn't defeat the rhino virus) where nobody was intentionally killing anyone at any scale. You'd probably be amazed to find out how much stuff you're carrying around in your head that is absolutely bullshit.

Here's another one for you: the US government never made an effort to erradicate the Buffalo so the Indians would lose their food source. Like the above "genocide" shit, it's another lie. It all came from some lying sack of shit who claimed he heard Gen Sherman say it in Texas in about 1880. The problem was that it never happened, but people have been repeating these lies for over a century now.
Remember "safe and effective" repetition. It was neither. Or Biden is sharp as a tack, "the best Biden ever." ETC.....

The weak minded always fall for it.
 
This thread is completely worthless and just goes to show what fake news looks like. Slayer news? Really? You all are getting your panties bunched up over this? What a joke. Move on. mRNA vaccines have been around a long time and none of you ever questioned it. Covid wasn’t as bad as we thought and neither is the fucking vaccine.
Tell that to some folks I know who are having heart issues right now, then there are those who you can't converse with because they are dead. FYI they all had clots in their veins from that death jab. The money you make from shilling, you report that or not?
 
Oh GTFO

People in medical field. Married with. Kids. Big student loads. Mortgage. Daycare.

wtf were they supposed to do ?

Well it separated the talk tough crowd from the do-er crowd.
I was threatened, along with all of my co-workers, to get the jab or be fired.
Many sleepless nights was spent but finally I said FU to management and the jab.
Management finally backed down.
Now so many say, I wished I hadn't got the jab, but they still had the choice.
Tough talkers folding like a cheap suit.
 
Well it separated the talk tough crowd from the do-er crowd.
I was threatened, along with all of my co-workers, to get the jab or be fired.
Many sleepless nights was spent but finally I said FU to management and the jab.
Management finally backed down.
Now so many say, I wished I hadn't got the jab, but they still had the choice.
Tough talkers folding like a cheap suit.
I’d argue the medical field is a different animal

So
 
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