Thanks a lot #metoo

[2ndamendfan]

Dumbasses, just fucked over women for the next generation.
I have a daughter about ready to graduate college and enter a somewhat male dominated industry, I have encouraged it for years. She has the talent, skills and brains for the job. I have taught her to "be one of the guys" while still being a woman.
And then I read this. Women bitch about a "glass ceiling", which they in many ways installed themselves.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ule-for-the-metoo-era-avoid-women-at-all-cost

 

[Mwalex]

Almost all extreme movements fail to account for unintended consequences. Sort of like ordering kiosks at McDonalds.

 

[Rthur]

Dumbasses, just fucked over women for the next generation.
I have a daughter about ready to graduate college and enter a somewhat male dominated industry, I have encouraged it for years. She has the talent, skills and brains for the job. I have taught her to "be one of the guys" while still being a woman.
And then I read this. Women bitch about a "glass ceiling", which they in many ways installed themselves.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ule-for-the-metoo-era-avoid-women-at-all-cost

I seem to remember the phrase "toxic work environment".
Strange how the one's decrying this have now made a new one.

R

 

[JimLee]

When women can no longer get a job or anyone to date them they can thank the #metoo movement, or they can fight it now.

 

[LucasJ1990]

This country is going to shit.

 

[2ndamendfan]

Oh and for the record i dont blame men for reacting this way.
I have a possible expansion in business planned and last night I was thinking it would be less of a pain to have an all male crew including secretary/receptionist.

 

[Mwalex]

I am sure that the feminists will scream discrimination and "that this cannot be allowed to happen!" What they will fail to understand is that this is no different than deciding not to hire ANY type of disruptive person.

 

[Basher]

"Men have to step up, she said, and 'not let fear be a barrier.'"

It's not fear alone. It's a good mix of fear and common sense, IMO. If women of the younger generation in particular have created an image of crying wolf over misunderstood cues, then it's just good common sense to avoid them.

I'm all for supporting efforts to squash sexual harassment and abuse, but I feel the "me too" movement took it too far, too fast. It has become the sexual form of swatting. Don't like a male co-worker? Blame him for unwanted sexual advances that may or may not have happened, nobody knows because there's no evidence to support the claim. We're just supposed to accept it at face value and shift to a "guilty until proven innocent" structure where the defendant bears the burden of proof...

 

[Sean the Nailer]

@2ndamendfan , while I'm sorry about your daughter's 'uphill fight', I will start by saying this:

How many here have been, or know of, men getting screwed over by women?\
Relationships that went sour.
Situations that instilled jealousy.
Scenarios that created competition.
Antagonists that became vengeful.
'revenge' that became bankrupting.
Golddigging that evolved into sheer devastation.
Scheming that incited incarceration.

If any of the above is a possibility in a man's "home-life", then why the hell would he want to jeapordize his professional life with the opportunity for MORE devastation? 20-30 years ago, I had NO ISSUE whatsoever, working with women. There were even some women in the Trades (certified) that were a pleasure to work with.

But nowadays, with the complete reversal of ideology to "we gotta watch out for ourselves, and we gotta advance at any cost" on their side.... I can completely understand the isolationist sentiment. I've got over 50 years of NEVER ONCE stepping out or crossing the line, and yet each day now, with each interaction with whatever female I happen to need to interract with,,,, the sword of Damacles hangs above all of our heads. It's just that you never know when or who is going to cut that thread for their own agenda.

So, for the sake of "teamwork and crew synergy" I can completely see the viability of "men only".... just as a soap-opera prevention measure. Focus on the job, as we're all here for finance, not romance on this jobsite, RIGHT?

 

[vh20]

The solution to this is stupidly simple: Make no assumptions until AFTER each accusation is fairly investigated, and make the punishment for false MeToo accusations just as severe as for true offenders. If women would condemn false accusers as aggressively as they do men who have only been accused (not even proven, or even investigated yet), then this problem would go away on its own. They are destroying their own futures by allowing false accusers to cry wolf and get favorable results.

 

[Jefe's Dope]

When any accusation is taken as guilty 1st and then forgot about months later when you've cleared your name, yet it's forever tarnished because the majority either thinks you're still guilty or never cared to hear you proved your innocence. Combine that with the no statute of limitations in the public's eye. Forget the fact you're judging 30+ years ago against today's standards and you're judged as a mature adult for antics you did in your teens.

 

[Redmanss]

Ever since I left my high school job bagging and stocking groceries, I've worked in male dominated/exclusive fields. Marine Infantry, international security contractor, now railroader, having a woman in my field is extremely rare. While my attitude is considered by much of the population as misogynistic where I believe there are particular jobs that a man does better, I have not held ill will against any woman from giving it a try provided the exact same standards are held. Those standards are tough for men and the majority of the male population fails in that regard, and a very slim amount of women can not only do the job but it is a wide exception for them to be competitive. Outside of a few female guards that worked for me and were hired specifically because they were female to physically screen other women, I have never worked directly with a woman on a day to day basis on my team since I was 17 years old.

Having come from such limited professional female interaction background, I am extremely protective of myself because I have seen people taken down by both false and true accusations from women in the workplace. I find it funny the article has decided to call it the "Pence Effect", that's pure bullshit and political garbage as usual from the left, because that standard of conduct has been in place for ages.

As a recruiter I had a little experience dealing with young ladies and part of the job was for us to be alone with them, every single one (and there weren't all that many to begin with) I enlisted thought of me as a Gunnery Sergeant and father figure because I conducted myself as such. I got accused by my co-workers and even my own wife for banging one young girl I enlisted, couldn't have been further from the truth, but the accusations can come easy even when you are on the straight and narrow. Sometimes it's because others want to know you're as corrupt as they are or get dirt on you, other times it's because they want to take you down, luckily I never got wrongfully accused by the ladies themselves and I believe that was in large part to how I conducted myself. I changed the way I dealt with women after that to further protect myself.

I don't have private conversations with a woman, including when I would have to deal with other department managers who were female over the years. I call everyone "Ma'am" regardless of their position and I amplify it even more if they tell me to not call them that, even my female Afghan guards were called ma'am by me, as that keeps it on a professional basis. For some stupid reason women like to hug hello or goodbye, even in the workplace, but they get stopped cold by me if they try that shit and a stern warning to never touch me outside a handshake again. I don't hug dudes, and I damn sure don't hug any woman I'm not related to or in a relationship with. I never have a meal in a restaurant or chow hall with them on a one-on-one basis, I don't give a shit if they're sitting by themself, I will do the same before I sit with them alone. I absolutely, positively, never have a drink with a woman I work with and the same goes for ever visiting where they sleep at any hour of the day.

I've never been called out as being a woman hater; straight-laced and rigid as well as an asshole, sure, But not a woman hater. The few times I've been asked why I act the way I do, I explain it loud and clear that I keep things on a 100% professional level at all times and expect them to reciprocate the same. You avoid rumors by giving nothing to talk about.

Let's be perfectly honest here, there is a minority of men who have overstepped proper conduct in the workplace and has gotten us to this point right along with women who have tried to fuck and suck their way to the top, but any sensible woman should agree that men being as self protecting as women are is not a bad thing. Bitching they're being treated professionally? Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit and get back to fucking work.

 

[W54/XM-388]

It's a very dangerous time to be a man.
Twice as dangerous if you happen to be a pale face man
Even more dangerous if you happen to be heterosexual, conservative and Christian.

The attack vector the Communists choose these days seems to be mostly evil women, of which there seems to be a never ending supply.
So treat them as the enemy and as liars, destroyers and blackmailers and never give them a chance.

If the women don't like it, well they shouldn't have been such evil daughters of Satan to begin with.

Pence is smart and has been for some time. Just like the many Pastors for the past 20+ years who have also made sure they are never ever ever alone with a woman who is not their wife.

Before long the rest of men might have to start doing the same thing.

 

[Holliday]

I posted this on twiiter a while back:

“Today while at the Post Office counter, I complimented the young lady’s hair color (Blonde with reds ends) I promptly apologized . Later I turned myself into authorities.

All of the above is true (except for the authorities part)”


I don’t even like standing next to strange women in the checkout line. The #metoo movement is a sham designed to control every aspect of mens lives while at the same time allowing women almost carte blanch.

Think about it. Who routinely brings their sexuality into the workplace. Makeup, high heals, cleavage, red lipstick, short skirts are all sexual displays. Meanwhile men in most business environment are regulated to suits or at the least business attire.

Now I am not saying that women should not dress this way. But to purport that the only ones splashing their sexuality onto anyone or everyone they come in contact with is men, is just plain ludicrous. Furthermore women use their sexuality to get what the want from men in the workplace. They flirt, make suggestive remarks etc. then if the guy reponds in kind they post a #metoo 25 years later......

And dont even get me started with women getting drunk after work, fooling around, then crying rape......?

I have a daughter who is the treasure of my life. I always taught her she was equal to any guy. Not because men are bad but because she is good......

 

[Jefe's Dope]

Fortunately most women see right through this charade. And of few of them liked to be talked too dirty. So they're feeling the pain too.

 

[PPB]

We need to start the Fuck Yeah Movement.

 

[W54/XM-388]

If we can just perfect robotic sexual partners and breeding children without the need for human females.....
Science to the rescue.

 

[Rthur]

If we can just perfect robotic sexual partners and breeding children without the need for human females.....
Science to the rescue.

Funny you mention this.
Part of their plan is us being out bred.

R

 

[Alphatreedog]

This might not be 100% on the money . I work for a very large Co. that has diversity mandates . I would think that alot of large coporartions have the same . We have female upper management who are not just professional but top notch . It would be fool hardy to ignore talent . IIaA I hope that your daughter fairs well and is not hampered by this crap .

 

[W54/XM-388]

Funny you mention this.
Part of their plan is us being out bred.
R

Yes, but what if we could beat them to their own game?

Have good manly righteous men each raise a decent large group of sons in their own image without having to fear for them being torn away by evil women or having to fear being enslaved to pay for the corruption of the children.

 

[Redmanss]

Rule #1 to be taken serious: Never show more skin than your boss unless you're a Hooter's waitress (aka underpaid and overdressed stripper). Fortunately for me, I know writing that will never offend Hooter's waitresses because they can't fucking read anyhow.

 

[308pirate]

“There aren’t enough women in senior positions to bring along the next generation all by themselves,” said Lisa Kaufman, chief executive officer of LaSalle Securities. “Advancement typically requires that someone at a senior level knows your work, gives you opportunities and is willing to champion you within the firm. It’s hard for a relationship like that to develop if the senior person is unwilling to spend one-on-one time with a more junior person.”

Men have to step up, she said, and “not let fear be a barrier.”

Fuck this cunt. You are reaping what you have sown. I'll be goddamnned if I will have a woman lecture me on this topic.

 

[FS1]

The ones who started this shit are likely the ones who were fine with it until it stopped helping their career. It never seems to be a problem until they don't get promoted or are in trouble at their jobs. Toxic Femininity is real. But so is sexual harassment that's why it's such a slippery slope. If they get harassed and they don't report it within 24 hours it should be dismissed as BS. Either stand up or shut up. And yes it will be hard to do.

 

[vh20]

[QUOTE="308pirate, post: 7378122, member: 113603"You are reaping what you have sown. I'll be goddamnned if I will have a woman lecture me on this topic.[/QUOTE]

That was rich, wasn't it? She literally chastised men to stop being "scared" and to keep sticking their necks out so they can chop them off. It's so twisted it debates itself.

 

[Jaymiller5]

When women can no longer get a job or anyone to date them they can thank the #metoo movement, or they can fight it now.

Exactly.. but does the younger generation realize this is happening? Or do they deflect it when it is brought to their attention and say the older generations are just oppressing them?

 

[Holliday]

They are movng to legislate what they want, by expanding discrimination laws and female gender hiring quotas, mandating equal pay & promotions regardless of equal work or qualifications. That article touches on that.

The vison of the Marxist Democrat feminists is to make men worker drones while they live their queen bee ? single motherhood lifestyles. Look legislative movements that are exempting femine hygen products from tax. So you can tax toilet paper but somehow femine hygiene products are more of a daily necessity ??

And if you think Conservative women won’t lick from this honey pot ? think again. They already are.....

 

[hermosabeach]

I had an audit issue that became a non issue

We had a secure room- high density legal storage- copiers- printers
It was secured with the card key system.
I put a door stop on the door which was a violation of a bunch of rules.

Why did I have a door stop added?

I was in back with an assistant manager. We were laughing about something while looking for a document.

The door opened, someone came in, heard a male and female voice and laughing

They said uh oh- excuse me and left.

From that day forward if I was in that room with any female, the door was propped open

Elimination of rumors and or bullshit was the goal.

Audit was ok with the door stop and how/ why it was on the door. This issue was not mensioned in the audit report.

If they mentioned the door stop, it would have been an audit finding and all finding would be addressed.

This was 2006 or so... stay frosty

 

[Yasherka]

@2ndamendfan , while I'm sorry about your daughter's 'uphill fight', I will start by saying this:

How many here have been, or know of, men getting screwed over by women?\
Relationships that went sour.
Situations that instilled jealousy.
Scenarios that created competition.
Antagonists that became vengeful.
'revenge' that became bankrupting.
Golddigging that evolved into sheer devastation.
Scheming that incited incarceration.

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