Accuracy International AT-XC

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Does anybody have the weight of the atx or Atxc without a barrel? Or ideally without a barrel,bridge and bag rider? Trying to spec out a a build to ride just under 16 lbs. ThanksView attachment 8711659
The AT-XC without a barrel is 8.2 lbs, that’s with the bridge (11.6 oz) removed and the factory bag rider replaced with the Bug Hole version. I just set one up for NRL Hunter open heavy with a 7 SAW carbon fiber barrel (3.4 lbs), Vortex LHT, and Cyke double pull and its right at 15.2 lbs.
 
Seriously considering an ATXC, but keep going back and forth on Sage Green vs Flat Dark Earth.

Love my MC in Sage but some of the XC photos it looks very light/mint color, always had eyes for a FDE AXMC-LE model too…
 
The AT-XC without a barrel is 8.2 lbs, that’s with the bridge (11.6 oz) removed and the factory bag rider replaced with the Bug Hole version. I just set one up for NRL Hunter open heavy with a 7 SAW carbon fiber barrel (3.4 lbs), Vortex LHT, and Cyke double pull and its right at 15.2 lbs.
How's the balance on that setup? Right at front of mag well with bipod attached?

Also is the bolt opening and closing forces truly noticlbly lighter than the prior gen atx's?
 
How's the balance on that setup? Right at front of mag well with bipod attached?

Also is the bolt opening and closing forces truly noticlbly lighter than the prior gen atx's?
The rifle is pretty well balanced but a bit tail heavy. 1-2 sets of external weights (depending on the barrel contour) and she’s just right for me.

With regards to bold lift don’t have experience with other atx but don’t find much difference with the axsa.
 
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How's the balance on that setup? Right at front of mag well with bipod attached?

Also is the bolt opening and closing forces truly noticlbly lighter than the prior gen atx's?
This may not be 100% accurate, but it’s worth something.. I just measured my AXSR, AXSA, and ATXC with a pull weight gauge. I hooked it right where the handle meets the black knob on the handle. Here is the average of the results. The ATXC definitely feels smoother, but it is in fact heavier than my AXSA . I assume the XC will get lighter with use. My AXSA has about 800 rounds on it. The AXSR is brand new and the ATXC has about 40.

AXSR-9lb 14oz
AXSA-7lb 6oz
ATXC-8lb 2 oz
Impact 737R-3lb 8 oz
 
Gotcha. You've been waiting since December? And then they said June?
I’ll double check my order date, think I placed it mid October. Initially was quoted “around Christmas”. Then after the 1st of the year I called EO and was told they were expected june. Im sure this wont be the last time I wait for AI products. I was just curious if anyone had more information than what I was given. The order is for a left hand, fde, 6.5 creed atxc, so the left hand bit is probably not helping.
 
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I’ll double check my order date, think I placed it mid October. Initially was quoted “around Christmas”. Then after the 1st of the year I called EO and was told they were expected june. Im sure this wont be the last time I wait for AI products. I was just curious if anyone had more information than what I was given. The order is for a left hand, fde, 6.5 creed atxc, so the left hand bit is probably not helping.
That's rough! Yeah the left hand is unfortunately screwing you even more.
 
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AXSR-9lb 14oz
AXSA-7lb 6oz
ATXC-8lb 2 oz
Impact 737R-3lb 8 oz
Still heavy as hell it sounds like. I like 90% of the atx/atxc system, the manipulation of the bolt is the bane of my AI enfatuation. I know it's a 60° lift, so in theory that should be 33% more cocking force? How heavy is the fp spring? A weatherby is like 54° lift, similar 9 locking lugs, but requires far less effort to work the bolt. I don't know why it HAS to be that way.
 
Still heavy as hell it sounds like. I like 90% of the atx/atxc system, the manipulation of the bolt is the bane of my AI enfatuation. I know it's a 60° lift, so in theory that should be 33% more cocking force? How heavy is the fp spring? A weatherby is like 54° lift, similar 9 locking lugs, but requires far less effort to work the bolt. I don't know why it HAS to be that way.
IIRC, part of it has to do with the minimum firing pin energy built into the system to ensure reliable ignition of primers across all environmental windows. Not saying this about you - but commercial shooters seem to forget that a lot of these rifles are designed for MIL/LE, and a slightly 'heavier' bolt lift is inconsequential compared to ensuring consistent ignition.
 
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IIRC, part of it has to do with the minimum firing pin energy built into the system to ensure reliable ignition of primers across all environmental windows. Not saying this about you - but commercial shooters seem to forget that a lot of these rifles are designed for MIL/LE, and a slightly 'heavier' bolt lift is inconsequential compared to ensuring consistent ignition.
It's basically been the same action since the AW release in 1990, very minor changes minus the quick change barrel that was AT I believe. Now the AT-XC has what it sounds like, a lightened axsa action? If -40° ignition reliability is what they need, I bet there is a 35# spring in the bolt. I wonder if anyone has ever messed around with swapping the spring out.
 
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Still heavy as hell it sounds like. I like 90% of the atx/atxc system, the manipulation of the bolt is the bane of my AI enfatuation. I know it's a 60° lift, so in theory that should be 33% more cocking force? How heavy is the fp spring? A weatherby is like 54° lift, similar 9 locking lugs, but requires far less effort to work the bolt. I don't know why it HAS to be that way.
It is in fact, still heavy lol. But, like I said I would imagine it’ll loosen up some and the entire stroke and whatnot does feel “smoother” for what that’s worth.

It’s getting 2 25x47 barrels and a 6.5cm here soon. I think Fritz just got the .180 reamer.
 
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This may not be 100% accurate, but it’s worth something.. I just measured my AXSR, AXSA, and ATXC with a pull weight gauge. I hooked it right where the handle meets the black knob on the handle. Here is the average of the results. The ATXC definitely feels smoother, but it is in fact heavier than my AXSA . I assume the XC will get lighter with use. My AXSA has about 800 rounds on it. The AXSR is brand new and the ATXC has about 40.

AXSR-9lb 14oz
AXSA-7lb 6oz
ATXC-8lb 2 oz
Impact 737R-3lb 8 oz

Probably decent approximations.

Going by the ultra-precise objective measurement units of "feel", my friends AT-X (don't think it's a C) feels about x3 heavier than my Mausingfield bolt lift.

It's certainly stout, not to my preference. But AIs are built for a wide range of environments where it has to work, versus most other rifles which are designed to work in most environments.
 
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Probably decent approximations.

Going by the ultra-precise objective measurement units of "feel", my friends AT-X (don't think it's a C) feels about x3 heavier than my Mausingfield bolt lift.

It's certainly stout, not to my preference. But AIs are built for a wide range of environments where it has to work, versus most other rifles which are designed to work in most environments.
Right. I have buddies all the time grab the bolt and they’re like dude, wtf is wrong with this thing? Why won’t the bolt open? And I gotta explain to them why, and for some reason it’s grown on me and I like it. When I swap between the AI and my Impacts it’s weird. I made the switch earlier this year to a Bix N Andy two stage trigger though, and I have that thing setup so similar to my AI triggers, I love it…
 
My AT-X loosened up considerably after 4-500 rounds and is much easier to manipulate while on the gun now. I don't have a gauge to measure unfortunately
 
Man anyone have a reliable lead time from Eurooptic or mile high they seem to be mum on it. I should have bought it one in December when I had the invoice sitting in my inbox. What was I thinking lol… time to treat myself and upgrade my ax308 MC!
 

little update on the XC's in there
 
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For those, who don’t want to wait for it anymore…

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Fuckin’ A, I got impatient and paid an additional $3500 for an AXSR. I would have snatched that rifle up. I guess on the flip side I can shoot large action cartridges.
 
Both my 2014 AT’s are probably half the effort to operate the action. Really noticeable when shooting off barricades. Had to use the thumb on the action trick to keep it steady when load testing
Whew! Man I should have never read this thread, all these people talking about how horrible the AT bolt lift is and how amazing the TRG is in comparison and I'm sitting here like "Man WTF is wrong with my AT and TRG, cause I always feel like swapping to my TRG is a downgrade". However, upon inspection the TRG bolt lift is pretty nice, but my 14' AT seems fine. Where I notice the difference is the 14' AT bolt runs much smoother feeding rounds and the overall cycle. My TRG at least has way more resistance chambering a round and seems more likely to "stick" if you don't run the bolt how it likes. I've always assumed because Sako used such a rough phosphorus coating on the bolt, both in 6.5's

What we really need though is for AI to finally release those magnum face AT bolts we all know they have hiding aside for team members. Ah to have a 300wsm AT.
 
Whew! Man I should have never read this thread, all these people talking about how horrible the AT bolt lift is and how amazing the TRG is in comparison and I'm sitting here like "Man WTF is wrong with my AT and TRG, cause I always feel like swapping to my TRG is a downgrade". However, upon inspection the TRG bolt lift is pretty nice, but my 14' AT seems fine. Where I notice the difference is the 14' AT bolt runs much smoother feeding rounds and the overall cycle. My TRG at least has way more resistance chambering a round and seems more likely to "stick" if you don't run the bolt how it likes. I've always assumed because Sako used such a rough phosphorus coating on the bolt, both in 6.5's

What we really need though is for AI to finally release those magnum face AT bolts we all know they have hiding aside for team members. Ah to have a 300wsm AT.
My AT’s are fine. My ATX was the issue

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Only for the chosen :) Came up back in 21' that the AI team was running them in 6.5 PRC in the new AT-X's


I've read in posts in the past some smiths have done it, but there's usually not much for details etc.
 
Whew! Man I should have never read this thread, all these people talking about how horrible the AT bolt lift is and how amazing the TRG is in comparison and I'm sitting here like "Man WTF is wrong with my AT and TRG, cause I always feel like swapping to my TRG is a downgrade". However, upon inspection the TRG bolt lift is pretty nice, but my 14' AT seems fine. Where I notice the difference is the 14' AT bolt runs much smoother feeding rounds and the overall cycle. My TRG at least has way more resistance chambering a round and seems more likely to "stick" if you don't run the bolt how it likes. I've always assumed because Sako used such a rough phosphorus coating on the bolt, both in 6.5's



2014 AT



2015 AT

Mentioned previously here, and here.

Trying to convey how the bolt lifts on my rifles are like - neither of them have a soft, gentle bolt lift when under tension from the firing pin spring, unlike in any of the videos I’ve posted elsewhere.

Kinda “snappy.”

The 2015’s definitely “snappier.”

When firing pin spring tension is offloaded, they move smoothly enough.

Is it just my firing pin springs?
 
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I've read in posts in the past some smiths have done it, but there's usually not much for details etc.


It’s been done by @hafejd30 up there.
 
Dammit I would bit on one those FDE rifles. The sage green looks a lot like elite sand. I see pictures on Europtic showing a light green version of sage, then other pics showing a dark green color. I'd prob go with a dark green VS the lighter color.
It's definitely more of a sage/lighter green. OD would be a welcome change.
 
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I’m a sage green guy on AX and AT’s, but something has always looked off on sage green AT-X/C’s. Not sure if it’s the black grip and/or the black action with the sage green or if the color itself is off…like too minty. 🤷‍♂️

I think the best color on those models is instead DE.
 
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