And those people live among us. We have a long road ahead of us '...and miles and miles to before (we) sleep.'
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Its strange to think people would kill themselves our minds are set up not to even think about death that is waiting for all of us. Sad to think if his service pushed him to this or if he always had a problem. First time watching that and it almost looked fake at first but I never seen the effects of a shotgun blast to the head.Guy gets pissed at Mommy, blows head off with shotgun.
Skip to 4:30.
Facebook Live Suicide Video: Man shoots himself in the head with a shotgun
A 33-year-old Army veteran from Mississippi who served in Iraq shot himself in the head live on Facebookglobalazmedia.com
This is what I alluded to with my comments about Baldwins leftism abruptly only reaching as far as to the point it cost him or his production money.
Adam Baldwin (Animal Mother - Full Metal Jacket) no relation to Alec Baldwin:
Reported as fact via eyewitnesses and court docs released yesterday. It is covered by NYT as well as other outlets.
or a felony if you are a Trump supporter.
That wouldn't surprise me. I've seen some of the shady shit union contractors have pulled to try to run non union contractors off the job and out of the area.
Seems like the victim here is a woman who is dead, not Team Orange.
So my question is, was it an actual .45 Long Colt round that was in the gun or a blank with a ball or some other squib load?
.45 LC is a devastating round pushing a big chunk of lead and would expect to see it easily pass through a person at close range, especially a thin framed female, and into a second person standing behind her but not a squib, regardless of it had a ball placed on top.
.45 LC is a devastating round pushing a big chunk of lead and would expect to see it easily pass through a person at close range, especially a thin framed female, and into a second person standing behind her but not a squib, regardless of it had a ball placed on top.
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Of course it "seems" that way to 'commoners'. But when the whole thing plays out, the REAL victim will turn out to be......Alec Baldwin.
My suspicion is an actual real round. There's a rumor circulating that someone took the firearm off-set during a break for a joy ride. They were shooting it with real ammo for fun. And then neglected to clear it when bringing it back. And then everybody else neglected to clear it at each stage.
Seems like a pretty clear case of criminally negligent homicide against Baldwin. This is not the first movie he's ever been in, nor the first time he's ever handled a prop gun. He's been briefed multiple times on the safe handling of props on set. The firearm was not visually and physically inspected prior to being issued. He pointed it at a person, he fired it. He knew, or should have known, that that action could cause injury or death. On set, you use INERT props where a person has the prop actually pointed AT them. Otherwise you should be AT LEAST 15 degrees off axis, which we then cover up with camera angles. You DO NOT actuate the prop unless everyone is in a safe location and filming has begun.
Actors are not to be considered subject matter experts when it comes to firearms. Each and every time the firearms is issued, you brief the actions, show and explain the particular prop, and the actor does just that, nothing more. No malfunction clearances, no loading/unloading, no twirling, nothing that has not been briefed. Anything goes wrong during the scene, everybody stops until the armorer takes control of the prop. If your scene does not require actual firing, you get a dummy gun, an inert replica incapable of firing anything.
The production company, producers, the AD that handed out the firearm are all civilly liable and will be writing a big check. Baldwin should be facing both civil AND criminal charges, we'll see if the DA in that location has any balls.
Actors are not to be considered subject matter experts when it comes to firearms. Each and every time the firearms is issued, you brief the actions, show and explain the particular prop, and the actor does just that, nothing more. No malfunction clearances, no loading/unloading, no twirling, nothing that has not been briefed. Anything goes wrong during the scene, everybody stops until the armorer takes control of the prop. If your scene does not require actual firing, you get a dummy gun, an inert replica incapable of firing anything.
The production company, producers, the AD that handed out the firearm are all civilly liable and will be writing a big check. Baldwin should be facing both civil AND criminal charges, we'll see if the DA in that location has any balls.
It’s a pipe dream, to think Baldwin will face charges.......
Will be persuaded not to do anything if not already a good commie that protects the leftists
I think the big lesson to take away from this is: anti gun people should not be allowed to Handle guns……
i mean I’m anti spider and you don’t see me running around handling spiders…
i mean I’m anti spider and you don’t see me running around handling spiders…
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Even if he doesn't face criminal charges, he is going to end up facing a HUGE wrongful death civil suit. And while the set has accident insurance, it doesn't necessarily mean they'll have enough to cover a large settlement. Baldwin could be responsible for paying out millions. He's worth well north of $60 million personally.
In contrast, O.J. was all but broke when the Goldman family was awarded $30 million for their wrongful death suit against him. About all Simpson had left was his Brentwood L.A. home, and his NFL investments and pensions. All of which were deemed untouchable by Goldman in court. This is not the case with Baldwin. Also, remember Simpson was found not guilty. There is zero doubt that Baldwin is the one who pulled the trigger in this case..... Accidentally, or otherwise.
Found on another gun forum:
Here is the Screen Actors' Guild (SAG) safety bulletins and guidelines. These are the standards crew and actors are held to on a set. There is a specific section for firearms. It has the obvious rules of gun safety and a bit more. This is the first statement of the entire document:
"AS AN ACTOR, YOU ARE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY AND THE SAFETY Of YOUR FELLOW CAST MEMBERS. Production management and crew are responsible for creating and maintaining safe conditions, but it is your right and responsibility to double check the set up to ensure your own Safety."
Here is an excerpt from the Actor's Equity Association page on gun use on set. This association is the union for the actual actors, and Alec Baldwin is a confirmed member:
"Check the firearm every time you take possession of it. Before each use, make sure the gun has been test-fired off stage and then ask to test fire it yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside."
Here is the Screen Actors' Guild (SAG) safety bulletins and guidelines. These are the standards crew and actors are held to on a set. There is a specific section for firearms. It has the obvious rules of gun safety and a bit more. This is the first statement of the entire document:
"AS AN ACTOR, YOU ARE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY AND THE SAFETY Of YOUR FELLOW CAST MEMBERS. Production management and crew are responsible for creating and maintaining safe conditions, but it is your right and responsibility to double check the set up to ensure your own Safety."
Here is an excerpt from the Actor's Equity Association page on gun use on set. This association is the union for the actual actors, and Alec Baldwin is a confirmed member:
"Check the firearm every time you take possession of it. Before each use, make sure the gun has been test-fired off stage and then ask to test fire it yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside."
Going to be kind of hard for the trash to continue to rag on Trump on SNL after the anti-gun hypocrite killed someone with a gun. However, I'm sure 50% of his audience will see him as some kind of courageous Leftist hero if he continues the fanatical hate and propaganda.
So when the first person went down he was just so into the scene he kept popping rounds off? Meh, actors, doesn’t surprise me too much.
Personally if someone handed me a gun for a shoot, I’d fully verify it was safe before I pulled the trigger, but Hollywood will blame the evil gun before the moron who aimed and squeezed.
Personally if someone handed me a gun for a shoot, I’d fully verify it was safe before I pulled the trigger, but Hollywood will blame the evil gun before the moron who aimed and squeezed.
Hannah Gutierrez was named in records filed on Friday in Santa Fe, New Mexico, related to the fatal shooting. According to the records, the gun that took Hutchins' life and injured director Joel Souza was one of three that Gutierrez had set on a cart outside the building where a scene from the movie was being acted.
www.foxnews.com
Armorer on Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' set once admitted to being 'nervous' about abilities
The armorer on set of the movie "Rust," which has made headlines after a prop gun Alec Baldwin used killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, once expressed doubt in her capabilities working on Hollywood movie sets.
www.foxnews.com Hannah Gutierrez was named in records filed on Friday in Santa Fe, New Mexico, related to the fatal shooting. According to the records, the gun that took Hutchins' life and injured director Joel Souza was one of three that Gutierrez had set on a cart outside the building where a scene from the movie was being acted.
Armorer on Alec Baldwin's 'Rust' set once admitted to being 'nervous' about abilities
The armorer on set of the movie "Rust," which has made headlines after a prop gun Alec Baldwin used killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, once expressed doubt in her capabilities working on Hollywood movie sets.
Hanna Gutierrez is the daughter of Thell Reed. She was raised around weapons. I'm sure she's forgotten more than any of us will ever know about handling guns. Look him up. This guy was kicking Jeff Cooper's ass in competition pistol shooting, before Cooper became a household name in handgunning circles. I highly doubt the apple fell very far from the tree.
People trying to diminish her abilities by twisting her modesty, is simply an attempt to shift blame off of Baldwin, and on to someone else. The gun was in Baldwin's hand. He pointed the muzzle. He pulled the trigger. He killed the victim.... Not Reed's daughter. NOTHING will change any of that. Alec Baldwin owns this...... 100% of it.
When I hand an actor a firearm, we both visually and physically inspect it's condition. And I don't care if we've both done so, you STILL don't point firearms directly at someone. We have dummy guns for that.
It's a little more than "nothing but a tragedy." Actually, there are two victims here, one is deceased and an anti-gun, Marxist pos thats responsible.
Then it's fucking hilarious.
Three, two were shot, one died, one did not.
Ah, Vera! I remember her fondly...not that I ever watched that show...
Bwaaahhhaaahhhhh. this narcissistic piece of shit does not care about anyone or anything but himself. You can bet he is already blaming everyone but himself for what happened.
Don’t tell me Alec Baldwin shot some RCBS Precision Micrometers, too?
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hah you are fast. I guess sh keeps a quote even after you have logged off? Because that was weird I quoted Choid but somehow it posted a previous quote oh well.
Try to keep up
No, there were two victims and one pos Marxist that pulled the trigger thats talking with his lawyers right now on how to get out of a Negligent Homicide charge.
Just blackpowder blanks...hot gas pops the balloon, no projectiles..
This is an important point IMO.
What procedure was followed?
Was he given a gun and told it was "cold", or was a complete/proper inspection done?
If it's a case like with 'The Crow' where part of a previous dummy round was still lodged in a barrel they could say they inspected it and it was missed (and it could be true). If he simply pulled the trigger on a gun that was loaded with live ammo...that would be very bad.
They weren't filming and even if they were he shouldn't have been pointing it directly at anyone
He's a dipshit and now he killed somebody. Whether a squib or any of that shit was involved is irrelevant.
He's a dipshit and now he killed somebody. Whether a squib or any of that shit was involved is irrelevant.
The human side of this tragedy:
9 hours ago — The husband of a cinematographer fatally shot by a prop gun on a movie set in New Mexico is speaking out.
'Our loss is enormous': Halyna Hutchins' husband speaks out ...
https://www.wmur.com › article › our-loss-is-enormous...9 hours ago — The husband of a cinematographer fatally shot by a prop gun on a movie set in New Mexico is speaking out.
Was he talking about Liz Cheney or projecting himself. The guy is an arrogant prick and that’s what lead to this. Feel horrible for the dead woman and her family.
In my defense, I was told we are going to a fucking shoot house and to tack up and grab my gear...
I doubt it. We witnessed an unarmed, peaceful female Trump supporter murdered by D.C. Police Jan. 6th and they wouldn't even ID the shooter, much less charge him.
Alec Baldwin is one of them.
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