Re: AR Dealers going dark?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hofhine1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Two problems I see, machine time, and then finish time.
I was at one of our customers' place putting in a new Haas machine the other day, he happens to make billet AR lowers, we had an extra minute and he ran through the numbers with me.
Each side of the lower is done in one mill, two setups per lower, total forty five minutes of machine time per side, then it goes to a mill with a 4th axis to do the magwell and all the cutting on the 'edge' we were calling it of the lower, this is about 51 minutes of machine time, ( for the entire program).
So, best case scenario, he runs 24/7, never sleeps, and can on a perfect, no-fuckup day run 23 lowers, which still have some hand finishing, (this can obviosly be done while the machines have parts chucked up and running), he runs his in a tumbler for a few hours, them sandblasts them before going to anodize, which is about a ten day turn.
He had eight hundred lowers backorder on Friday, 1-4-13, and the order were still coming in, and he an esoteric builder I doubt anyone has ever even heard of.
Run twelve hours a day at six days a week, and you see the math problem here, he can only do 75 a week, assuming everything goes perfect, the machine overlap is correct, ( which I can see as no way most of the time), and there is no scrap. Add in finish. Twelve weeks to catch up, and that's just the current backlog, remember the orders keep coming.
His prices didn't change, so paying his employees twenty hours of overtime a week, (assuming they'll even work that many without wrecking any parts), is kind of a no-win for him...
Kinda put it all in pespective for me, and these don't need heat treat, MPI, hard chrome, etc like bolts and carriers.
Just one way of looking at for some of those who forget the parts actually have to be made, and most people want them perfect every time, me excluded.
sean </div></div>
Looks like Silencer Research DBA as Xcaliber [Mena AR] ? (maybe not he doesn't show a 9mm lower)
I saw he was tooling up. 1 per hour is no good. We need more guns!!! America needs an Ar in every house! That X symbol on the lower is taking valuable time! We need more GUNS!! And more ammunition!
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Perhaps your customer should take a specific set of orders for overtime pay at overtime prices- and run the machines 24 hours a day. </span>