Rifle Scopes Burris XTR3!!!
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All the complaints bring me to this.. I wish companies would look beyond “influencers” and sponsored shooters to test and give honest feedback before stuff goes into production. “Influencers” have other free shit to “review” and could give two shits about stuff end user look for. Sponsored shooters are just worried about winning. They could care less if the turret is stiff or sharp. Let the keyboard warriors and anal retentive folks give some feedback. They are the ones that will 100% scrutinize a product. If the mentioned were applied, I’m sure Vortex wouldn’t be messing with the Gen 3 (turret and parallax) or re-tooling for new production.
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Sorry, I don't own the scope (yet), or have access to one to see it for myself before purchasing.
Is it possible to remove the zero stop? Or have the stop position be set to what would be a hold under position?
Edit: say I wanted the stop position to be 2 mils of hold under. Is this possible? Or is the hard stop always at 0?
Is it possible to remove the zero stop? Or have the stop position be set to what would be a hold under position?
Edit: say I wanted the stop position to be 2 mils of hold under. Is this possible? Or is the hard stop always at 0?
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Yes, you can set the zero stop to be below 0 or whatever number you want. For both the PRO and XTR3.
How are you guys using the race dial? I've been to only a few matches, but safety etiquette seems to be grab you rifle from the designated rifle area when it's your turn and return it to that area when you've completed your run. When do you guys transfer you data to the turret before each stage? With the PRO I can just remove the turret and take it with me, but not so easy on the xtr3.
Yes you can set the ZS anywhere you like the reply from Chickentoast in the Pro thread explained how to do it.
Thanks for confirming. I am misunderstanding Chickentoast's response. I should be able to get it figured out, now that you guys confirmed it's possible....assuming I end up getting one or the other. Thanks all for putting up with my ignorance.
Some pics for you...
1. Start zeroed, unable to dial down.
2. Loosen cap and pull up - caps have vacuum so they try to suck back down - re-tighten.
3. Dial the amount under you would like to have. It will click now because cap is tight.
4. Loosen cap again and push it down. Re-tighten.
5. Click back to Zero!
1. Start zeroed, unable to dial down.
2. Loosen cap and pull up - caps have vacuum so they try to suck back down - re-tighten.
3. Dial the amount under you would like to have. It will click now because cap is tight.
4. Loosen cap again and push it down. Re-tighten.
5. Click back to Zero!
Thanks @Chickentoast. The last pic is the light bulb moment (for my dumb ass)....at least I think so. The knob bottoms out on the flange in between the knob and the body....and where it bottoms is the hard stop. Right?
Thanks to everyone else for the help too.
Thanks to everyone else for the help too.
Go to a bike shop. They will have a ton of old ones that have popped etc that they are just throwing away and will give you more than you need. Ask for one old mountain bike and one road bike one and that should cover you for pretty much anything
Thank you for the quick reply. I think there is an old bike in an out building of a house we bought now that I think about it.
I wonder if we can cut 1” pieces of this and sell them for $25 - “better than a throw lever, the new throw rubber!”
We can get $39.99 if we put tactical on the box.
I bet heak shrink tubing would work great for this as well and would look a little nicer.
I bet if somebody made FDE inner tubes this would 100% work!
Ya, they are called Ranger Bands. Basically the same damn thing that gets sold for wayyyy more than it should
I recently purchased 2 of the XRT3 3-18 from Camera Land. On one the turrets, parallax, and mag ring are all perfect. The other one everything was noticeable tighter, almost to the point of uncomfortable. Now after several turns of each turret and mag ring it is starting to get better, not as good as the other scope but nothing to complain about. Both scopes the reticles are very crisp, eye box is nice, and thus far I am very pleased with the optical quality.
Finally used the 3.3-18 today at the monthly match. It performed very well. The image was clear and crisp. I stayed around 13x the entire match and only backed off to see where the targets were on some stages. The reticle could be a tiny bit thicker but it’s fine the way it is where I kept it.
The eye box was very generous. There were a few stages where I couldn’t get a solid cheek weld but still managed to pull off the shots and connected.
Despite the dialing today the elevation turret still needs to loosen up a whole lot more.
The eye box was very generous. There were a few stages where I couldn’t get a solid cheek weld but still managed to pull off the shots and connected.
Despite the dialing today the elevation turret still needs to loosen up a whole lot more.
Mine has a bit of slop if you crank it fast back and forth you can feel it. Anyone else? It’s just a tiny bit of play before it hits a wall and starts moving. Seems to work okay but I have minimal rounds on it so far.
Throw rubbers is more marketable. Ranger bands sound like something for a man bun
Mine (5.5-30) was delivered yesterday. Still waiting on rings to show up so I can mount it. But I have run the parallax back and forth many, many times. No backlash. The knob itself does rub on the housing ever so slightly, in some spots.
Edit: I installed a cheater knob, to make it easier to make fine adjustments. But this also provides mechanical advantage, and exaggerates slop (if there is any)....and sure enough, there is the slightest bit of knob movement before it catches (when changing directions). /Edit
Just a follow up to all my previous zero stop questions (in case someone else finds/needs this): The zero stop is disappointing for my application....but my application is not what this scope is marketed toward (something low powered, but trying to stretch it out further than I should, along with some very close range work). There are two pins. One in the housing (fixed position). And one in the elevation knob (also a fixed position). The interference of the pins (only at zero) are what make it a hard stop at zero. As you dial down your elevation (if the knob height is set "correctly"), the two pins contact each other at a hard stop at zero. You can not move this pin-to-pin hard stop to set it at say 2 mils of hold under. But you can raise the knob so that you can dial the knob pin past the housing pin, to some amount of hold under....but there will not be a hard stop of pin-to-pin contact at your hold under number/value. The knob can be set to bottom out on the housing....but it's not exactly a hard stop on the housing....because if you're a gorilla, and you can crank down on the knob, you can grind it into the housing, past your hold under number. It is not my preference to zero at the close range that I want to dial hold under for....but I think I might have to adapt, and do that (if I really want to utilize the pin-to-pin hard stop)....or just hold under, instead of dialing it.
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Yeah, it really just jams the turret cap into the housing. This is an exposed area, so if there's any dirt there, and there will be, the "stop" also grinds to a halt. Also, mine had to be set something like 2 MRAD under other wise the turret cap wouldn't clear the ZS pin and would stop when trying to dial back to zero. This is another let down in my XTR3 experience.
It’s been quiet on the XTR3i’s debut. I guess Burris could opt not to do much marketing on it since the illumination is the only feature being added. That said, I am worried this is more of a sign that it’s not close to being available for the public. With release of the original XTR3 and Pro, Burris folks were providing pictures, reviews and updates. Burris was dropping hints and videos on FB/instagram leading to the release. The XTR3i news has been almost non-existent. Last I heard it was supposed to be available end of 1st quarter/start of 2nd quarter 2022. Anyone hear different?
Still showing pre order at camera land. I'm not really excited for a burris version of a PST. It definitely hits a certain market but just doesn't interest me. Maybe they are planning to expand the pro line for the new top tier? That would be cool.
Nah, people are disappointed a product that has been teased for several years still is not ready. It's more a reflection of Burris than bitchy people.
As Birddog has pointed out the XTR2 has always been made in the Philippines and has been a solid performer in all aspects other than let down by glass.
If the XTR3i keeps the same glass and is built to a high standard there's no reason it won't perform every bit as well as the US made version.
Maybe, maybe not. Any item can be made to certain standards if the manufacturer and consumer is willing to pay. A scope made in the Philippines targeting 1100msrp or so will not be in the same category as the USA made one that was 1800 upon release. There will be concessions outside of labor costs most likely.
So... you don't know.
Just like the rest of us. Until we get these in our hands, this is just a guessing game.
I shot my American made 3.3-18 again today, and I'm really loving it for nrl22. Great scope!
Nope, don’t know jack. I love the 3.3-18 I got from CL for the price. I’m always willing to pay a little more to keep things in the USA. Just a little disappointed I guess.
Yes but the XTR2 has been made in the Philippines and by all accounts is a well built scope and give very very few issues.
I get that people like to support their own countries manufacturing but the reality is many Asian countries are just as capable of producing high quality goods as any western country.
not trying to instigate, or pour fuel on the fire....I'm very new to shooting....but on page 2 of this thread, there's a couple posts that mention illuminated will be available. One post from 2018 says it will be available in 2019.
To be fair you could very much say they are influences rather than just sponsored shooters.
Posts like the ones on this forum are more like adverts designed to get people interested rather than just a rumor mill.
The information has come from Burris and been allowed to be shared in an attempt to brew interest.
Just my 2 cents, at the end of the day they'll be released when they are ready and people will bitch and moan regardless of what happens.
Previously I've held my breath everytime and updated came but I've more than learnt my lesson.
Buy or do not buy. Resell if don't like. I like info for making decisions, but there's a point where Yoda has to take over. If it's that large of a purchase, then it's a poor financial decision. Otherwise, I'd have to ask how difficult it must be to buy a refrigerator, tv, car, or house... or is it just a mental masturbation ritual.
I hope I didn't piss in anyone's corn flakes.
I only posted about the pins/hard zero stop, in case someone else is putting one of these on an air rifle, and they're thinking they'll be able to zero at 50, and dial .5 mil of hold under for 25 to 48....and still be able to use the hard stop. (I figured out how I will be able to adapt/change my zeroing preferences to work with how the scope/turret/stop pin is designed....but it would be nice if one of the pins was somehow adjustable).
I only posted about the illumination because when I first heard about this scope (and stumbled upon this thread) less than a month ago....reading the thread for the first time, I was left with the impression that illumination was already available for years (the thread started in 2018)....until I went looking for one, and figured out they hadn't been released yet.
I asked all my questions because I (personally) need to manage my expectations. If I don't, then I default to having very high, unrealistic expectations, and everything always ends up being a huge disappointment. It sucks being a perfectionist, and an aerospace manufacturing engineer....where the stuff I make is, for the most part, held to perfectionist's tolerances. Thanks to all that did try to help me.
I only posted about the pins/hard zero stop, in case someone else is putting one of these on an air rifle, and they're thinking they'll be able to zero at 50, and dial .5 mil of hold under for 25 to 48....and still be able to use the hard stop. (I figured out how I will be able to adapt/change my zeroing preferences to work with how the scope/turret/stop pin is designed....but it would be nice if one of the pins was somehow adjustable).
I only posted about the illumination because when I first heard about this scope (and stumbled upon this thread) less than a month ago....reading the thread for the first time, I was left with the impression that illumination was already available for years (the thread started in 2018)....until I went looking for one, and figured out they hadn't been released yet.
I asked all my questions because I (personally) need to manage my expectations. If I don't, then I default to having very high, unrealistic expectations, and everything always ends up being a huge disappointment. It sucks being a perfectionist, and an aerospace manufacturing engineer....where the stuff I make is, for the most part, held to perfectionist's tolerances. Thanks to all that did try to help me.
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