Gunsmithing Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

[Rifle Barrel Blanks]

So I am not coming up with anything substantial in the search.

I have a rem 700 long action shooting a 284. After my shot I lift the bolt and pull the bolt back. Some rounds eject from the action and some stay connected to the bolt with a slight tilt toward the ejection port. Plain and simple I can't have this when I'm shooting. It's unacceptable IMHO. What do I need to do to make the case get the Frick out of my action every darn time? Thanks for the help

Jake

 

[Lumpy Grits]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

Reloads or factory ammo?
Check your case head dia.
Look inside the bolt head for a burr.
How do the case heads fit with the bolt out of the rifle and doing a "check-fit".
Is the rifle stock?
Respectfully,
LG

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

Soak the bolt head in cleaning solvent overnight, then use a narrow punch to push/loosen up the ejector. Once it's loose, an occasional drop of oil will help keep it free.

If it does not budge, it probably indicates either corrosion or fouling from a pierced/blown primer. In extreme instances, the ejector and/or ejector spring may need replacement.

Greg

 

[FCS]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

Pic of case head from round(s) that didn't eject and pic of bolt face would help quite a bit in troublshooting this.

 

[SDWhirlwind]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

Twin brother had a 6.5x284 built on a LA. It does the same thing. Changed extractors, ejector is free. Possibly the larger body diameter of the 284 case in an action set up for the 270/06 etc????

 

[DAVETOOLEY]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

The issue is the rebated rim. There is not enough clearence to allow the case to pivot out of the boltface without the case body hitting the bolt nose. Best solution is a Sako extractor conversion with a .140" counterbore w/a slight chamfer, instead of the stock .150" counterbore.

 

[longshotbml]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

Check the ejector for brass. I had my .308 stop ejecting last summer. Loads were not hot and extracted fine but a small amount of brass got into the extractor and would not allow it to move forward and put pressure on the fired case. Dissasembed the bolt, cleared the brass brass shaving and no problems since.
Good Luck!

 

[Rifle Barrel Blanks]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

Factory gun for the most part. custom barrel job.

I will try your trick greg. I hope it works.

I am shooting my reloads.

 

[Glen Seekins]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

You can modify the plunger so it sticks out just a bit farther. Too far and your brass will go 30 feet, so go a little bit at a time. Just need to modify the pin notch on your plunger and i think you will be happy.

 

[Jim See]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

I'll second what Dave said, bolt nose interference with the case body in front of the rim.
I have made the factory extractor work by removing about .005" off the nose. and cutting a chamfer from nose into the bolt face opening, (all single point in a lathe).
Need to be careful with this as that bolt nose is what holds in the extractor, so remove a small amount and test.

I have never tried Glenns suggestion but will next time.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

If my idea's not the fix, Glenn's looks even better.

 

[Rifle Barrel Blanks]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

Alright guys here is what I did,

I soaked the head of my bolt in cleaning solvent and then put a drop of oil on it after I had worked it for a little bit with a punch. No Luck. I then extended the plunger just a minute amount as Glen advised. No luck. The cases are still getting stuck on the bolt and are not always coming off.

The body of the 284 case (as stated above) is bigger than the rim of the case. Therefore the case is trying to eject like normal and is getting stuck becuase the body is hitting the inside side of the bolt mouth. The pressure of all this is greater than the plunger and thus the case just stays in the bolt mouth and does not eject.

Couple questions for you experts.

What is my next step? I do not have a lathe or major gunsmithing machines.

All I know is that I want my case to come out of my action after I shoot every single time. NO EXECPTIONS!! I am getting about 1 in five that do not exit right now. It causes lots of struggles when shooting in a timed match or stress type stage.

I really want to get this fixed like yesterday!!! Thanks for the help gentlemen. It is much appriceated.

Jake

 

[sandwarrior]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

+1 on what Dave Tooley said. And Jim See. If the ejector is free then that's what's holding your cases. Too little clearance between case body and bolt face rim.

Of course a good cleaning to start with never hurts.

 

[gamma]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

I would really like to help and I think Im with you about the case being larger in diameter than the rim. Hopefully some of the other might chime in here. Im thinking if the chamfer on the bolt face was enlarged a bit more this might solve it. Keep in touch and hopefully between a few of us here we might crack it.

 

[Rifle Barrel Blanks]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

Alright guys here is what I did. I worked a little careful dremel magic. My case body was getting stuck and essentially pinched against the side of the bolt mouth. Thus the case could not fully rotate out of the action. Since the 284 case is a little fatter than a 308 I was having the problem.

I took my dremel and at a 45 degree angle slowly shaved off some material directly across from the plunger and worked my way up and around about 1/2 inch. again I just barely took off enough to create a little 45 degree chamfer. If now works great.

Before I did this I cycled through 30 rounds and got 12 that did not come out.

After my little DIY project and a stead hand with the dremel I cycled 5 full 10 round magazines with every one spitting out just like I wanted. Worked like a charm.

Big props to David Tooley for some advise on how to fix this. Thanks again Mr. Tooley.

 

[armymedic.2]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

your dremel-fu is strong.


glad you got it fixed

 

[Tigerbikes]

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Brave man taking a Dremel to your bolt!

 

[sandwarrior]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tigerbikes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Brave man taking a Dremel to your bolt!</div></div>

I would say so too. But I am impressed. Figured the problem out. Then carefully set about making it right.

 

[Rifle Barrel Blanks]

Re: Case not ejecting like it should!! Need advise

Yeah to be honest I was a little scared. LOL, I thought to myself before I started that this could be a $200 dollar mistake.

I went very slow and just took off a tiny bit of material. That is all it took.