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For Bourbon aficionados

A buddy of mine was telling me about this one made by SF Afgan vets. He said it's very good.

I’ve had the “Reserve” and a VA ABC store pick Reserve and they are very good.
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I just found out why ya'll mix or ice your bourbon.

Went to get a bottle of Horse Soldier but they were sold out. as was Wodford's Reserve my go to when I cant get Pappy's or afford cognac..

Decided to try something different and grabbed a bottle of 1792. Wasnt too pricey, $30 or so. Cracked that evening and poured an nice shot. First impression was it was to hot, strong, I prefer something more akin to a cognac, smoother that rolls across your tongue, little bite. Then I remembered ya'll mentioning watering it a bit. Dropped a couple cubes of ice and it calmed it right down, very pleasant and recommended, a good value for the money and the old lady will like the bottle.

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2020 World Whisky of the Year, 1792 Bourbon is an award-winning, small batch Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey from the Barton Distillery in Bardstown, Kentucky.
 
I just found out why ya'll mix or ice your bourbon.

Went to get a bottle of Horse Soldier but they were sold out. as was Wodford's Reserve my go to when I cant get Pappy's or afford cognac..

Decided to try something different and grabbed a bottle of 1792. Wasnt too pricey, $30 or so. Cracked that evening and poured an nice shot. First impression was it was to hot, strong, I prefer something more akin to a cognac, smoother that rolls across your tongue, little bite. Then I remembered ya'll mentioning watering it a bit. Dropped a couple cubes of ice and it calmed it right down, very pleasant and recommended, a good value for the money and the old lady will like the bottle.

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1792bourbon.comAward Winning Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey | 1792 Bourbon


2020 World Whisky of the Year, 1792 Bourbon is an award-winning, small batch Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey from the Barton Distillery in Bardstown, Kentucky.

Having a bit of that sauce in my old fashioned right now as a matter of fact. Pretty damn good for the price.

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I just found out why ya'll mix or ice your bourbon.

Went to get a bottle of Horse Soldier but they were sold out. as was Wodford's Reserve my go to when I cant get Pappy's or afford cognac..

Decided to try something different and grabbed a bottle of 1792. Wasnt too pricey, $30 or so. Cracked that evening and poured an nice shot. First impression was it was to hot, strong, I prefer something more akin to a cognac, smoother that rolls across your tongue, little bite. Then I remembered ya'll mentioning watering it a bit. Dropped a couple cubes of ice and it calmed it right down, very pleasant and recommended, a good value for the money and the old lady will like the bottle.

th


1792bourbon.comAward Winning Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey | 1792 Bourbon


2020 World Whisky of the Year, 1792 Bourbon is an award-winning, small batch Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey from the Barton Distillery in Bardstown, Kentucky.

I’ve had several of the Bardstown offerings. They like to distill them strong. I prefer my Bourbon neat but I have to water down the Bardstown I still have.
 
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I just found out why ya'll mix or ice your bourbon.

Went to get a bottle of Horse Soldier but they were sold out. as was Wodford's Reserve my go to when I cant get Pappy's or afford cognac..

Decided to try something different and grabbed a bottle of 1792. Wasnt too pricey, $30 or so. Cracked that evening and poured an nice shot. First impression was it was to hot, strong, I prefer something more akin to a cognac, smoother that rolls across your tongue, little bite. Then I remembered ya'll mentioning watering it a bit. Dropped a couple cubes of ice and it calmed it right down, very pleasant and recommended, a good value for the money and the old lady will like the bottle.

th


1792bourbon.comAward Winning Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey | 1792 Bourbon


2020 World Whisky of the Year, 1792 Bourbon is an award-winning, small batch Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey from the Barton Distillery in Bardstown, Kentucky.

ETa,, I see I am late to the party for the below comments,, 🥃🥃🥃



another method, and common for scotch drinkers

pour a couple fingers in a short glass, (just a wee dram or 2 if you are a Scot)

then, just a wee bit of water,

probably not as much as would be in a cube, just a splash (also called Bourbon and Branch water)

opens up the flavor a bit,
 
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Seems like several on here really appreciate “Good” bourbon’s. I do too just not to the level of some.
When you take a good bourbon and put it on a cube of ice or open it up a little with water, what about the chlorine in public water systems or iron and minerals in well water?
Would using distilled or purified water be better? Or maybe even some of the bottled spring waters.
Seems a waste to cut an expensive bourbon with bs water and alter the taste
What do y’all do? Krw
I use filtered softened water. The water has not taste.
 
Calumet is another tasty bourbon that's not very expensive. With a cube it's very smooth. Old Line bourbon is another good one worth a try.
 
And if we had socialism you wouldnt need money, the state would pay for it. 🙃

I get that this was sarcasm, just for those that may not have lived long enough to have experienced something like this, when I was in Berlin in the early 90s a 750 of Jack Daniels was about $150 DM. That was about $100. A pair of Levi’s 501 on the market was $300DM, or about $200. This was 1991 money.

Fuck socialism. If we were socialist this thread, if we were allowed to have it, would be about drinking Vodka or Schnapps. Nobody could afford Bourbon.
 
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Bullshit, a small amount of water opens up the bourbon. Yea go drink 67% barrel proof bourbon straight.
131 Stag jr .
You can pull strait from the bottle.

Water's for washing.

If you want to back it up with something, Mexican coke also strait from the bottle, none of that canned shit.

No use doing dishes.
 
Where is @Soulezoo to unfuck this circle jerk?
While I certainly appreciate the shout out, there's nothing I can do here. Hider's are gonna Hider and do what they want regardless of how I feel about it. Ignorance and 6 Gay Tiger reigns.
I will say on the addition of water, there are those whiskeys that do benefit from a few drops of water to open up. Others not so much. Notice I said drops... use an eyedropper to apply 2-4 drops in a standard pour. And use filtered or bottled water, not tap! If you are one that likes a nice ice cube, use only ones that are perfectly clear and not cloudy or milky looking that you get from your freezer at home. That's just wrong! The trapped air in those cubes will do more to fuck up a whiskey than anything.
While I am a purist (I drink neat) at the end of the day a person knows what they like and drinks accordingly. But I do get a little sideways on people that will fuck up a good whiskey out of pure ignorance and stubbornness.
 
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Zero is for loosers. And then it would be a mixed drink.

Chased is not a mixed drink.
 
So my .02 worth, is a splash in the 1st, seems to bring out the sweetness for me. But after that not needed. Everyone's palate is different. Like hot spice is intolerable by some, others could drink OC, I like it hot but have limits (I'd preference being bear sprayed over a taser any day) cigars too, different smokes for different folks (love me a Drew Estate ACID nasty, very spicy)
 
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My George T Stagg was 144.8 proof I believe
George Stagg JR at 134.4
Bookers was 128

Neat, no water, no warm water to "open it up," no ice cube, no coke, no nothin.

You want poor mans bourbon go rum: I'd put these two, at least the bottles I had against any of my other high end bourbons or scotch.
Goslings Family Reserve old rum
Appleton Estate 21yr rum was good stuff as well.

I figured they'd be $300+ a bottle now, but they aren't, it's a miracle what some of this stuff has done in price

I paid $70 for that bottle of George T Stagg, it'd cost me near $3k today, the Stagg Jr seems to sell at $300 a bottle, the Yamazaki 18r Single Malt I had now runs $1200. Macallan 18yr cost me $180 and it isn't worth that, but is nuts now, paid $300 retail for a bottle of their rare cask, can only imagine what that stuff would go for now, Macallan ain't worth it, 20 yrs ago, sure.

Go sipping rum for realistic priced hooch, that Goslings is like $70 a bottle, that Appleton 21yr cost me $120, looks to be $160 today. Both will beat the bourbons or scotchs at those prices.

Ultimately I tossed all of it, don't drink and was tired of watching it collect dust, cigars have stuck with me, tried a tobacco pipe for a bit, another $200+ that was thrown in the trash, the constant going out got me, cigars just allow you to relax more.

All alcohol was drunk neat for me though.

I may pick up some of those 1L home bourbon barrels and throw some Buffalo Trace in them, they age 6.31yrs for every 1yr as compared to the normal barrels used by the manufacturers.

Some potential for some fun experimenting over a couple/few years.
 
A splash of filtered water for me in my whisky. Not tap water - not ice from tap water. Not soda pop...but if one likes that then rock it.

Just a splash of neutral water for me works wonders.

VooDoo
 
Someone said 'Buffalo trace' ?
That's the only shit that doesn't get drank at the hunting lodge.
Seriously, that is literally the trace buffalo leave behind.
BTW, the bar is open and free at the hunting lodge and usually at least 20-30 hunters there bullshittin and gambling, should say all you need to know.
 
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I have 12 bottles put away for the end of the world………..
I heard from a reliable source (Maser) that the world's ending next week. Better send me a couple of those bottles so they dont go to waste.
 
I was going past the ABC store yesterday and thought Id see if they had the Horse Soldier in (that's likely why Im a poor). They did. Picked up a bottle of the one below. A bit pricey but excellent. Straddles a fine line between the 'Hot' of a Blanton's and the smoothness of Woodford's Reserve. Highly recommended.

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Not sure if Woodford, Bullett or Willet is considered expensive or not but I find that I like them straight up, on the rocks, with a splash, in an Old Fashion and in Coke. Only thing about a bottle of bourbon that I find distasteful is when it's empty.
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My George T Stagg was 144.8 proof I believe
George Stagg JR at 134.4
Bookers was 128

Neat, no water, no warm water to "open it up," no ice cube, no coke, no nothin.

You want poor mans bourbon go rum: I'd put these two, at least the bottles I had against any of my other high end bourbons or scotch.
Goslings Family Reserve old rum
Appleton Estate 21yr rum was good stuff as well.

I figured they'd be $300+ a bottle now, but they aren't, it's a miracle what some of this stuff has done in price

I paid $70 for that bottle of George T Stagg, it'd cost me near $3k today, the Stagg Jr seems to sell at $300 a bottle, the Yamazaki 18r Single Malt I had now runs $1200. Macallan 18yr cost me $180 and it isn't worth that, but is nuts now, paid $300 retail for a bottle of their rare cask, can only imagine what that stuff would go for now, Macallan ain't worth it, 20 yrs ago, sure.

Go sipping rum for realistic priced hooch, that Goslings is like $70 a bottle, that Appleton 21yr cost me $120, looks to be $160 today. Both will beat the bourbons or scotchs at those prices.

Ultimately I tossed all of it, don't drink and was tired of watching it collect dust, cigars have stuck with me, tried a tobacco pipe for a bit, another $200+ that was thrown in the trash, the constant going out got me, cigars just allow you to relax more.

All alcohol was drunk neat for me though.

I may pick up some of those 1L home bourbon barrels and throw some Buffalo Trace in them, they age 6.31yrs for every 1yr as compared to the normal barrels used by the manufacturers.

Some potential for some fun experimenting over a couple/few years.
Good read on small barrels:

Code:
https://www.amazon.com/Small-Barrels-Produce-Lousy-Whiskey-ebook/dp/B006X9UD2W
 
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The Pendlton rye was a huge disappointment especially for a 12 year old.
It was not smooth and basically in the kill the taste with cola swill range.

Would not purchase again.
 
Jeebus... $30k for a bottle of rye, huh? Kind of reminds me of back in the early 2000s when retards were gobbling up $500 bottles of vodka distilled with water from the fountain of youth and filtered 247 times. :rolleyes:

For what it's worth, whiskey produced in warm climates ages much faster and less predictably than whiskeys produced in cold climates. This is why you'll see lots of 30+ year old Canadian and scotch whiskeys but very few bourbons and Japanese whiskeys of the same age. More time in the barrel means less production, higher production costs and more risk. As a general rule, whiskey properly distilled and aged for a long time in colder areas is going to produce a more refined product than whiskey properly distilled and aged for shorter periods in warmer climates. It will also be far more consistent, all other things being equal.

No bourbon or Japanese whiskey is worth more than $200. Outside of rye vs "standard" and cask finish decent bourbons are pretty similar. It's not like Scotch where a 40y speyside from Glenfarclas is wildly different than a 10y islay like Laphroig. The only reason why distillers are asking these ridiculous prices is because hipsters decided bourbon and jap whiskey is cool and they're willing to pay these premiums to impress their hipster friends.
 
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Jeebus... $30k for a bottle of rye, huh? Kind of reminds me of back in the early 2000s when retards were gobbling up $500 bottles of vodka distilled with water from the fountain of youth and distilled 247 times. :rolleyes:

For what it's worth, whiskey produced in warm climates ages much faster and less predictably than whiskeys produced in cold climates. This is why you'll see lots of 30+ year old Canadian and scotch whiskeys but very few bourbons and Japanese whiskeys of the same age. More time in the barrel means less production, higher production costs and more risk. As a general rule, whiskey properly distilled and aged for a long time in colder areas is going to produce a more refined product than whiskey properly distilled and aged for shorter periods in warmer climates. It will also be far more consistent, all other things being equal.

No bourbon or Japanese whiskey is worth more than $200. Outside of rye vs "standard" and cask finish decent bourbons are pretty similar. It's not like Scotch where a 40y speyside from Glenfarclas is wildly different than a 10y islay like Laphroig. The only reason why distillers are asking these ridiculous prices is because hipsters decided bourbon and jap whiskey is cool and they're willing to pay these premiums to impress their hipster friends.

Scotch has gone up so much in price it's getting ridiculous. A 15year or 18 year McCallans was my go to but it is getting ridiculous.

Went back to knob creek, instead of adding ice I just chill it. I've found chilling tames the bite and you get mostly flavor without watering it down.
 
Scotch has gone up so much in price it's getting ridiculous. A 15year or 18 year McCallans was my go to but it is getting ridiculous.

Went back to knob creek, instead of adding ice I just chill it. I've found chilling tames the bite and you get mostly flavor without watering it down.
I always have a bottle of the Knob Creek 9y on hand. It's a good, modestly priced bourbon available pretty much anywhere. I bet you'd like Brothers Bond at around $40 too. As far as cheap scotch goes, Monkey Shoulder is phenomenal for about $35. They're both light, simple and well executed bottles that make for great everyday sippers.

I haven't bought a bottle from Macallan in a while for the same reason. If you like highland malts the Highland Park 15y Viking Heart is quite good at about a hundred bucks. It comes in a pretty cool looking ceramic bottle you can't miss on the shelves.
 
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Jeebus... $30k for a bottle of rye, huh? Kind of reminds me of back in the early 2000s when retards were gobbling up $500 bottles of vodka distilled with water from the fountain of youth and filtered 247 times. :rolleyes:

For what it's worth, whiskey produced in warm climates ages much faster and less predictably than whiskeys produced in cold climates. This is why you'll see lots of 30+ year old Canadian and scotch whiskeys but very few bourbons and Japanese whiskeys of the same age. More time in the barrel means less production, higher production costs and more risk. As a general rule, whiskey properly distilled and aged for a long time in colder areas is going to produce a more refined product than whiskey properly distilled and aged for shorter periods in warmer climates. It will also be far more consistent, all other things being equal.

No bourbon or Japanese whiskey is worth more than $200. Outside of rye vs "standard" and cask finish decent bourbons are pretty similar. It's not like Scotch where a 40y speyside from Glenfarclas is wildly different than a 10y islay like Laphroig. The only reason why distillers are asking these ridiculous prices is because hipsters decided bourbon and jap whiskey is cool and they're willing to pay these premiums to impress their hipster friends.
That is an old article, the last one sold a year or so for $45,000

My favorite was Weller12 in the old cheap twist off cap bottles that I would buy for $19, have about
a dozen left.
 
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My rant is for all those snobs who complain about other people putting ice ,water or soda in alcohol. I'm of the school that how ever you enjoy drinking it is what I'm for, I don't care what the stuff cost if I serve it and you want to put Bosco into a $300.00 glass of alcohol I'm more then happy that your enjoying it.
Its fucking alcohol and the sterno bum drinking night train gets just as fucked up as someone drinking Cristal , I know the sterno bum doesn't have access to ice when he drinks his night train so I guess he drinking it according to Hoyle.
I get the same shit for putting cream in good coffee. Few want to come to blows over it.

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I always have a bottle of the Knob Creek 9y on hand. It's a good, modestly priced bourbon available pretty much anywhere. I bet you'd like Brothers Bond at around $40 too. As far as cheap scotch goes, Monkey Shoulder is phenomenal for about $35. They're both light, simple and well executed bottles that make for great everyday sippers.

I haven't bought a bottle from Macallan in a while for the same reason. If you like highland malts the Highland Park 15y Viking Heart is quite good at about a hundred bucks. It comes in a pretty cool looking ceramic bottle you can't miss on the shelves.

Yea, my go to was the 15 year Macallan. I didn't think the 18 year was worth the jump in price. I'll have to try that as I've only had a few different brands of Scotch at this point.
 
Scotch has gone up so much in price it's getting ridiculous. A 15year or 18 year McCallans was my go to but it is getting ridiculous.

Went back to knob creek, instead of adding ice I just chill it. I've found chilling tames the bite and you get mostly flavor without watering it down.
If you have access to a good PX or class six, Dalmore 15 is going for $89 right now. That stuff is really good, but I'm not going to pay the $145 it normally goes for around here.
 
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