Hate to bust you bubble but I'd like for you to cite this law.
I think you are full of bullshit
Muller report is in....
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I think you are full of bullshit
Justice is like a grist mill, it grinds slowly but finely. If these traitorous grains of partisan wisdom are not put through that mill? Then the stone of justice is broken. Trump is tough as steel and he survived the grind. So lets see how Obama and company do. JMHO
To use the full force of govt as a political ops research tool, is as perverse as it gets.
To use the full force of govt as a political ops research tool, is as perverse as it gets.
Strongly encouraged to listen
How the POTUS's daily notes with his own counsel are handled under executive privilege could get spicy.
A second report has been written by the POTUS counsel
Mueller was aware that he had nothing as early as December 2017 and was in possession of contravening evidence since then as well.
RE: How Mueller gets hired.
Sessions is meeting with the President in the oval office, POTUS counsel walks in and informs both that Rosenstein has appointed Mueller as SC without notifying anyone.
No one has ever asked RR why?
How the POTUS's daily notes with his own counsel are handled under executive privilege could get spicy.
A second report has been written by the POTUS counsel
Mueller was aware that he had nothing as early as December 2017 and was in possession of contravening evidence since then as well.
RE: How Mueller gets hired.
Sessions is meeting with the President in the oval office, POTUS counsel walks in and informs both that Rosenstein has appointed Mueller as SC without notifying anyone.
No one has ever asked RR why?
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Listened to the whole interview.
To me it was amazing.
I hope when all this comes out President Trump's 1st official term as president starts, weather it's weeks from now or another couple of years!
But from what I gather NO one with any power will try to vindicate or even help this Presidency accept WE THE PEOPLE!
he needs to stop the gun grabbing bullshit Or I will abandon his ass, let the commies take over to trigger a war of cleaning house the permanent way
Whether, damn it, whether. And it's except. Not f-ing accept!
Be literate!
Be literate!
Just helping Veer. One has to keep standards and appearances if one is to be taken seriously.
Paul Manafort said Mueller hid evidence
Of course. Weissmann, Mueller's lead prosecutor, has been reprimanded for failure to turn over evidence to the defense on previous occasion.
Horowitz the DOJ IG and Huber, the AUSA from Utah, handling that and a host of other issues. ?
Trump asks to look into the 'oranges' of the Mueller Investigation
It does seem odd that Trump is verbally infatuated with the word 'oranges' --- But no surprise there...when James Comey came to the White House to shake D.J.T.'s hand, he later commented about how he noticed (besides Trump's orange hair) Trump's orange colored facial skin...except for around his eyes.
It does seem odd that Trump is verbally infatuated with the word 'oranges' --- But no surprise there...when James Comey came to the White House to shake D.J.T.'s hand, he later commented about how he noticed (besides Trump's orange hair) Trump's orange colored facial skin...except for around his eyes.
Erno, you need to give back all that ShareBlow money....you're not good at this.
Orange vs Origin -
He’s trolling, “Orange Man Bad” vs
- RR independently and without notification hires Mueller as SC
- T$ told he is not under investigation by Comey
- RR advised T$ to fire Comey
- McCabe starts obstruction investigation the next day after Comey is fired
- McCabe removed, SC Mueller takes over
- STrozak (lead investigator) says there is "no there, there"
- Mueller doesn’t have jack shit for reals as of December 2017, but drags it out to impact mid terms
T$ is trolling b/c the Dims (and you) keep after the Collusion / Obstruction / Idon’tCareWhatitSaysIknowOrangeManBadSomeHow
Keep asking for release of the full Mueller report, make some noise about it - please. Get angry, march in the street and carry a stupid sign, preferably with a pink pussy hat on (I love those as markers).
This will get us to the ORIGIN of how and why RR hired RM as SC. It gets us to the original scoping letter, which gets us to the revised (and classified) second scoping letter, which gets us to de-class of FISA - which gets us to criminal proceedings (and executions?) of a whole lot of swampy critters - with Barry (I am not a US Citizen) and HRC + WJC as headliners.
Orange vs Origin -
He’s trolling, “Orange Man Bad” vs
- RR independently and without notification hires Mueller as SC
- T$ told he is not under investigation by Comey
- RR advised T$ to fire Comey
- McCabe starts obstruction investigation the next day after Comey is fired
- McCabe removed, SC Mueller takes over
- STrozak (lead investigator) says there is "no there, there"
- Mueller doesn’t have jack shit for reals as of December 2017, but drags it out to impact mid terms
T$ is trolling b/c the Dims (and you) keep after the Collusion / Obstruction / Idon’tCareWhatitSaysIknowOrangeManBadSomeHow
Keep asking for release of the full Mueller report, make some noise about it - please. Get angry, march in the street and carry a stupid sign, preferably with a pink pussy hat on (I love those as markers).
This will get us to the ORIGIN of how and why RR hired RM as SC. It gets us to the original scoping letter, which gets us to the revised (and classified) second scoping letter, which gets us to de-class of FISA - which gets us to criminal proceedings (and executions?) of a whole lot of swampy critters - with Barry (I am not a US Citizen) and HRC + WJC as headliners.
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"President's day of strange and confusing statements"
"Trump cheats like a mafia accountant at golf"
"Trump cheats like a mafia accountant at golf"
Isn't that Emo's wife/sister ?
(Thinking that kind of retarded only comes from inbred in Arkansas)
On edit: ok, I saw that shit in Alexandria, LA when I lived there for a year and got the f out.
(Thinking that kind of retarded only comes from inbred in Arkansas)
On edit: ok, I saw that shit in Alexandria, LA when I lived there for a year and got the f out.
I'd suggest that you perhaps spend some time in review of the quality and integrity of the "messages" before you start whining about being attacked for promoting same. Just a thought.
I seem to remember you being against the president ordering the National Guard because it was against the law.
Well to make the Mueller report public in its entirety is also against the law.
So, are you applying the law equally? Or are you picking and choosing?
These types of questions are what I personally find most interesting as well. I definitely do not know a lot about how the political game is played in DC but something that I also find extremely interesting that is rarely mentioned is that I can not imagine a scenario where Trump was not advised to or did not ask Sessions prior to Trump appointing Sessions whether Sessions would recuses himself. There is nothing illegal about that.
I agree that Sessions is a RINO as far as I'm concerned and definitely not a small government guy but my point is I can not see Sessions lying about whether he would recuse himself or not and I can not see Trump or someone on behalf of Trump not asking Sessions if he would recuse himself prior to Sessions being appointed.
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Releasing the Mueller report to Congress and the public is not against the law, because of the severity of the situation; that compares to the Watergate jury of 1974 --- with them releasing all of the evidence to Congress and the public.
If Barr & Donald J. Trump think that the Mueller Investigation is going to be swept under the rug --- they've got another thing coming....
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Sessions said he would recuse himself during the confirmation hearings. Trump should have pulled the nomination on the spot. When was the last time a dem recused? Did Holder ever recuse himself? Dems laugh at republicans for following ethics they have no intention of following.
Nope.
Illegal without redactions.
If it was legal then why is congress “urging “ the White House? Cause they can’t force it.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see the whole thing. But you can’t have it both ways.
Sometimes the rule of law is a bitch. Get over it.
Trump knew how Sessions was going to answer that question long before Sessions was asked during the confirmation hearings though. That is the part that I don't understand is what the political motivation of appointing Sessions is when you know he won't recuse himself but playing this game of political theater in the media where the message is that Sessions should not have recused himself.
I'm not saying that's not what happened. No one knows what Sessions' intent was when he answered that question prior to his appointment but him ... I just think it's a very strange way to end a long career but he seems like a strange guy so who knows haha ...
I'm not a conspiracy guy so I don't buy the deep state plant aspect. Sessions was one of the first guys to support Trump and the AG spot was a reward. If I'm not mistaken, Sessions was a fed. prosecutor before becoming a senator. So when he's asked a question about recusal during his confirmation hearing, it's a slam dunk the guy is going to answer " Of course I'll recuse myself". I still say Trump should have pulled the nomination right then.
I think you're missing the main point is that Trump or more likely attorneys acting on behalf of Trump would have asked Sessions prior to the confirmation hearings whether Sessions would recuse himself or not. The takeaway is that Trump knew before the confirmation hearings the Sessions would not recuse himself or he at least knew how Sessions answered that question prior to the confirmation hearings. I don't understand the political motivation on either side for Sessions to lie to Trump or if Sessions did not lie to Trump why Trump wanted to paint this picture of being betrayed by Sessions.
I understand the point you're making. I would be surprised if they ever discussed it. IMO, Trump offered the AG position to Sessions long before the election and was genuinely surprised by the recusal.
That would be gross political negligence not to have asked about the recusal prior to putting him up for confirmation ... I just don't see how anyone could navigate their way to the presidency and be that careless.
I'm not really buying that Sessions for AG was about loyalty for Sessions support because that would be like screwing him over in the ass with no lube to end his career that way without at least asking about the recusal situation prior to putting him up for appointment unless Sessions lied about his intent to recuse or was pressured into changing somehow ...
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You’ve said this a few times, and I could be totally wrong, but I don’t recall the issue having come up until after Sessions was already in? Plus, you’ve said a couple of time that he said he “won’t recuse” himself, but the problem is that he said he “would”
Recuse himself, and so he did. Just having trouble following, sorry.
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Basically, Trump or someone on his team would have asked Sessions point blank, are you going to recuse yourself in the Russian Collusion investigation. This would definitely have been asked prior to putting Sessions up for nomination.
So, either: (1) Sessions lied about whether he would recuse himself or (2) Trump knew Sessions would recuse.
I’m saying it’s hard to see what the political motivation would be in either of those scenarios.
So, either: (1) Sessions lied about whether he would recuse himself or (2) Trump knew Sessions would recuse.
I’m saying it’s hard to see what the political motivation would be in either of those scenarios.
Yeah, but WAS there a Russian Collusion investigation pending when he was nominated? I didn't think it had started yet, but maybe so. The thing that I've never had explained to my satisfaction is, after his recusal, Rosenstein recommended IN WRITING to Trump that he fire Comey, then turned around and approved a Special Counsel to investigate WHY he fired him???
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Most prevalent information is Sessions recused himself bc Darryl Issa and his small cabal began to pull back support after 100ish democratic "turds" called for Sessions resignation. And Issa and cabal strongly suggested it, in some part to protect the Republican party, which was beginning to fracture even then, Ryan was not on board.
Recusal kept Sessions in place where he could see enough to keep T apprised and keep things as trumpish as possible.
It has been suggested T thought, arrogantly, he could twist things and the R party as time went on, underestimating the swamp and what did come out in the investigation.
When Sessions didnt/couldnt provide the T solution, T turned on him like he did on anybody else who failed to throw themselves on their sword for him. T thought he could bully his way through as he had in his previous life, and that has gone nowhere in the swamp.
Not a whole answer, but general thought from several in the area.
Comey was dirty. That was coming out. The appointment of Mueller wasnt "just" about the firing, it was about a snipe hunt for anything, the swamp being the swamp, get rid of anybody that can hurt the swamp.
@vh20
Gonna be an interesting book written one day about this shit...
There is information out there that Issa's committee ran over 24k investigations into the BO administration. Some of the same junk they investigated then blipped in Mueller and was also recommended by Sessions to be investigated b4 he departed, and no action has ever been taken on any of it. Swamp water is filthy water.
And not that it matters to the average reader, Sessions ran a Fudd by the book, manner of business. Probably 99% of everything he did would stand up under very strong legal scrutiny. He resisted a number of T's orders to do some things that were blatantly going to get everybody in trouble, look at who blindly did Trimpism and got indicted and who got roasted and fired, but never a threat of investigation much less indictment.
Another minor thing, in all the evidence seized, there is a bunch of criminal stuff, that will never see the light of day, small thing, statue of limitations... the swamp water is filthy...
Recusal kept Sessions in place where he could see enough to keep T apprised and keep things as trumpish as possible.
It has been suggested T thought, arrogantly, he could twist things and the R party as time went on, underestimating the swamp and what did come out in the investigation.
When Sessions didnt/couldnt provide the T solution, T turned on him like he did on anybody else who failed to throw themselves on their sword for him. T thought he could bully his way through as he had in his previous life, and that has gone nowhere in the swamp.
Not a whole answer, but general thought from several in the area.
Comey was dirty. That was coming out. The appointment of Mueller wasnt "just" about the firing, it was about a snipe hunt for anything, the swamp being the swamp, get rid of anybody that can hurt the swamp.
@vh20
Gonna be an interesting book written one day about this shit...
There is information out there that Issa's committee ran over 24k investigations into the BO administration. Some of the same junk they investigated then blipped in Mueller and was also recommended by Sessions to be investigated b4 he departed, and no action has ever been taken on any of it. Swamp water is filthy water.
And not that it matters to the average reader, Sessions ran a Fudd by the book, manner of business. Probably 99% of everything he did would stand up under very strong legal scrutiny. He resisted a number of T's orders to do some things that were blatantly going to get everybody in trouble, look at who blindly did Trimpism and got indicted and who got roasted and fired, but never a threat of investigation much less indictment.
Another minor thing, in all the evidence seized, there is a bunch of criminal stuff, that will never see the light of day, small thing, statue of limitations... the swamp water is filthy...
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