Is this a relatively new brand??? Never heard of it...
Ilya, just curious, what could be the optical or opto-mechanical compromises associated with super short scopes like this, if any?
If it proves to be reliable and reticle meets my expecations, I might end up selling my S&B 5-20US ...
Now that the Hide is back up, here are some thoughts on the compromises involved with ultra short designs:
I'll go check it out at SHOT and let you know what I think.
As far as working with LOW goes, they are a full spectrum OEM, where they can offer a few house designs (that many companies can use), do custom design for you (that they can not offer to anyone else), or simply be the manufacturer for your design.
We do not know which this shorty scope is. I assume that EOTech would not release this scope if it wasn't viable, but the prrof is inthe pudding, so to speak.
According to Eotech, this scope will weigh 29.5oz with a battery.ILya, that was a fantastic video , thank you for throwing that together. I especially loved how you brought up the design of the Henny 4-16x56, that is still one of my favorite designs and if they offered one today with the MSR2 reticle I'd probably prefer it over many because of the large 56mm objective. I was hoping the Kahles K318i would follow suite, because if the Kahles was a 3.5-18x56 design that would differentiate it significantly from the S&B 3-20 Ultra Short. You also make an interesting point about the weight and you are correct, no where does EOTech mention how heavy the new scope is, I was hoping it would be under 35oz but expect it to be closer to 40. This does make me wonder how Schmidt got their 5-20 and 3-20 Ultra Shorts to be below 32oz, undoubtedly part of what you're paying for with those designs.
So what compromises does the Mk6 3-18 have given it’s lightweight and cheaper than a March?
Thanks for the video.
That was a good description and it helped me understand better.
It's cool to have some basic knowledge of how rifle scopes work on the inside now. I didn't realize there was that many lens elements in a modern riflescope!!!
Thanks Ilya, for taking the time to show us this in a video!
29.5oz?!? That's too good to be true, makes me worried they used plastic lenses and not glass. This just keeps getting better (I hope), now if only the FOV at 5x is above 20' at 100 yards, here's to hoping.
ILya; your video was highly informative and I for one, would definitely like to se more.
Im still curious to why EoTech lists their scope adjustment in approximation and not as a set value. Not that I expect you to answer this, but its something that seems to go by unnoticed.
Oh, and ILya in your video you talk about "depth of field" being something that can be compromised in shorter scopes?
How come that the Kahles K624i which is the size of a kids baseball bat has a surprisingly shallow depth of field, in spite of its size and 4x magnification ratio.
ILya, thanks for your speedy reply.
I am one of the guys that wants to like the Kahles k624i but every time I look through one, I get reminded why I will never buy one.
I have never looked through a TT scope, hell, I wonder if there are a single TT scope in Sweden? But thats another story. To keep things going on topic, the Vudu does look interesting.
And I know that there are tolerance to every spec, but does not scope adjustment really come down to thread pitch? And that is something that has been figured out long ago.
Unfortunately I am not at the show, just a video that I found that I thought I'd share with everyone.Thank you for sharing Goober. 33 mils of elevation and 30 mils of windage... more than enough for most. Also, 29.5oz confirmed. Nice that they used my favorite rings - ARC. Were they allowing anyone to look through the scope?
A 5-25 ultra short less than 30oz, that is crazy, the big question is whether or not they compromised IQ to get everything in such a short package. Anxiously awaiting ILya's feedback...