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New BIG BOY Atlas Bipod at shot show 50BMG 375CT 408CT

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I saw it and played with it today. Still a prototype. They say 3rd quarter for delivery. I'd say it's the Atlas version of an LRA…. Not bad, but not any better than the LRA except it pans. No price yet. 10.5" height, just under LRA IIRC.

Then I went and played with the Elite Iron Revolution (which may come down in price as they begin casting some of the parts), and I'm sold. One will be ordered ASAP. And my LRA will be for sale. (BTW, LRA+QD+Leg extensions == $650+ ~~EI LRA)

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yep, I think they need to send the prototype to wisconsin for some cold weather testing.
 
You guys are killing me! It's still a prototype so give us a chance to get some remnant of Harris in it!!! LOL

(Man I knew our booth was trashed, after seeing these pictures from early in the day, I want to apologize to everyone that came by and witnessed it!)
 
Been waiting and researching with what info is available, looking for a bipod that will work on a McMillan A5 super mag stock that has picatinny rail underneath and a 38” heavy barrel, 25 lb. rifle…..375VM2.
Elite iron would require the A5 to have a special front support with all of the weight leveraging off the end of the forearm support area.

It would be interesting to see if there is enough clearance between the bipod and A5 Super Mag forearm on the LRA or the 5H if mounted to the picatinny rail. Can anyone chime in that has facts and not assuming?

Cheers
oneshot.onehit
 
I'd have to agree with the OP, looks like a ripoff of the LRA and after all the noise about IP and the Chinese knockoff...


From a structural standpoint, the pictures demonstrate immediate flaws in strength. At least with an LRA you KNOW you're getting something that will last. The guy making them is so confident in how strong it is he'll stand on the front of his rifle to prove it.
 
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OneShot, the 5-H is a prototype, the configuration is changing and will work for you.

F77- please do tell what IP I have infringed.
 
Kasey said:
OneShot, the 5-H is a prototype, the configuration is changing and will work for you.

F77- please do tell what IP I have infringed.
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Patents? Who knows, it isn't mine but that response seems like walking the fine line of legalese by someone that knows they're dealing dirty.


A lot of the huff you made over the Chinese ripping off your product had to do with integrity, and this is a blatant demonstration of your character lacking it IMO.


All that nice karma you bought with the Christmas bipods as a surprise stemming from noise on the ripped off copy and then this... poor form.
 
Masked, under 500.00, wanting to get under 4.

F77, not at all, your making an unfounded accusation as if you know any and all patent involved which you don't. Your willingness to share your uneducated opinion on such a subject matter is regarded as such. But I haven't the time to entertain you.
 
Bohem, the cradle is heat treated 400 series stainless steel welded up like a box frame. The pivoting point is novel and untested so maybe it is weak but it'll be tested before we roll with it.
I'm a fatty, I'll use the highly regarded "I can stand on it" test....
 
Thanks for the objective reply, the "fatty" test is one of my favorites BTW ;)

Good luck with it, more pictures in detail would give me a better idea but gut reaction from a "professional" perspective is that the failure mode will be torsional buckling of the open section.
 
Back from SHOT had lots of interest from LR shooters on the 5-H bipod, a couple in particular, known instructors both, and the only negative comment was something like; "it's about time"! So we'll get all the catch up stuff done and then bang out the changes on it and get some prototypes made. Those will be dispensed to T&E folks and I'm going to try to do a trip out west for some other bipod related business and tie in some trigger time on a 5-H.

bohem, "torsional buckling of the open section" that part/section is strong, I don't see that "buckling" from shooting, even if the shooter puts his and his neighbors donkey into it! I see the joint failing before that little frame fails but we'll see.

Thanks again for the interest and yes we will be doing a SH intro offer.
 
I swear some of you guys bitch just to hear yourself bitch because you don't have anything constructive to say. It's a fucking prototype, does the definition of what that means really have to be explained to anyone?

Kasey, in looking at the design, I think you can get some Harris in there if you offer up a sling swivel adapter option and or a sling attachment point to the current design. Because I'm sure, one of these fat ass loud mouths is going to want to carry his 80lb rifle with his sling up a mountain side to hunt ground squirrels.....that is after you address the mentioned strength issues of course. :D
 
Kasey said:
Back from SHOT had lots of interest from LR shooters on the 5-H bipod, a couple in particular, known instructors both, and the only negative comment was something like; "it's about time"! So we'll get all the catch up stuff done and then bang out the changes on it and get some prototypes made. Those will be dispensed to T&E folks and I'm going to try to do a trip out west for some other bipod related business and tie in some trigger time on a 5-H.

bohem, "torsional buckling of the open section" that part/section is strong, I don't see that "buckling" from shooting, even if the shooter puts his and his neighbors donkey into it! I see the joint failing before that little frame fails but we'll see.

Thanks again for the interest and yes we will be doing a SH intro offer.
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My biggest issue on the 300wm with the V8's is that even when the bipod is loaded, it tends to hop...

I have decent follow-through and it really doesn't happen with anything but the larger calibers...

So I'm very happy to see a more spread out "beefier" design.

Can't wait for these to roll out.

Ty again, sir.
 
I'd like to see the center section molded into the front end of a manners stock, just the legs on the sides
 
VJJPunisher said:
I'd like to see the center section molded into the front end of a manners stock, just the legs on the sides
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I suppose anything is possible. A lot of inletting though to get the pan & tilt.

That would be an interesting evolution, the combining & streamlining of bipods to stocks. But, with the many options of stocks and many varieties of bipods, I think it would have to be custom jobby, unless there is a partnership or cooperation/collaboration between both manufacturers.

Will
 
All the people bitching.... we are all lucky we have guys like Kasey who make sh*t we all want. Yeah center looks like LR and Sako'ish but who knows who invented what first. I like it, make it $350sh Kasey if you can and you will sell a ton.
 
speaking of Elite Iron Revolution, that thing looks exactly like the TRG bipod, almost like they are the ones makes them for Sako who came first?
 
Kasey,

Can you fix your V8 Atlas, cause I weight 130LBS, can shoot a 20" AX338 and my recoil is perfectly to the rear with no hopping.

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I want my bipod to hop too... I feel completely unfulfilled that all these guys can use your bipod, and get so many other features out of it compared to me. They roll, they hop, they do all sorts of stuff and the ones you sold me, (ya I know) don't move but a 1/4" straight forward to back, then return to position.

A big, thumbs down ... can you build me one, and try spring loading it so it at least Hops ... I used to love to hop as a kid, and feel hopping would be fun even at my age.

I suppose I can go from a 20" 338LM to an 18" 375CT and get it to hop, but if guys are getting it top hop with smaller calibers, I want that too.

Signed,

Feeling Down in Denver

PS, before you whine about the press checks, it was just the fact the video parts were the first round in the magazine and regardless of that, it's still a good habit to get in. If you saw me shoot more than just the first round you would not see me press check.
 
Lowlight said:
Kasey,

Can you fix your V8 Atlas, cause I weight 130LBS, can shoot a 20" AX338 and my recoil is perfectly to the rear with no hopping.

I want my bipod to hop too... I feel completely unfulfilled that all these guys can use your bipod, and get so many other features out of it compared to me. They roll, they hop, they do all sorts of stuff and the ones you sold me, (ya I know) don't move but a 1/4" straight forward to back, then return to position.

A big, thumbs down ... can you build me one, and try spring loading it so it at least Hops ... I used to love to hop as a kid, and feel hopping would be fun even at my age.

I suppose I can go from a 20" 338LM to an 18" 375CT and get it to hop, but if guys are getting it top hop with smaller calibers, I want that too.

Signed,

Feeling Down in Denver

PS, before you whine about the press checks, it was just the fact the video parts were the first round in the magazine and regardless of that, it's still a good habit to get in. If you saw me shoot more than just the first round you would not see me press check.
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Thank you Frank, needed the laugh this morning.

Point taken.
 
I have a Barrett MRAD that I use an LRA on. It also "Hops". It can also be controlled by the way your shooting. I don't believe any bipod can control that "hopping". Unless you create some type of hydrolic/spring mechanism to absorb the recoil(which then you'll raise other issues) it will have to be shooter controlled. Just MO......please be gentle.
 
Frank, don't you know the .300wm is well known for being a hopping type of round, where as the .338 LM is not, I believe it to be due to its more refined nature being European in design, I mean Lapua just sounds so darn civilized and dignified, not one to be associated with jumping around and causing a stir. ;)

Kasey, looks to have the potential of another great product, keep up the great work.
 
10fp, the Sako bipod was the inspiration for the 5-H cradle design, I've had one for several years and appreciated the lower center of gravity.

VJJPunisher, Thank you, I'll PM you but a FYI the 5-H will be offered without the lever mount for direct mounting to a stock if desired as that was a expressed desire from a subject matter expert....

Lowlight, I'm trying to secure the formula for material used in the Mego Elastic Stretch Armstrong then we'll be able to grind up super bounce balls into the mix and mold bipod legs that should accommodate all shooting styles.
 
Use a can if possible load the bipod and try to position on softer ground so bipod Can dig in no more hopping. I don't shoot off the bench
 
Confused about the OP. Were you sold on the new Atlas or the Elite Iron Model?
 
Vinjesvingen - Thank you and we were going for availability by end of third quarter but I came up with a design idea that we are trying to incorporate to get more weight off while increasing strength and versatility. I think it's an illness of mine.... Anyhow, Rev. 2 is looking very promising and I'm pretty jazzed about it. So maybe 4th quarter.

I read it as the OP was going for the Elite Iron.
 
Looking good so far. Can't wait to see the final product!


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Not trying to hijack this thread, but a State Arms bipod meant for a 50BMG is solid as heck. Do not know if they are still in business.

Just checked - they are now East Ridge arms. East Ridge Gun Company
 
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Sure Chooter. You saying "not trying to hijack this thread" and then attempting to hijack the thread in another direction with some off topic bi-pod plug means its totally cool and you aren't a douchebag at all. It was close though.

Just to clarify for you bud, here is the TITLE of the thread: New BIG BOY Atlas Bipod at shot show 50BMG 375CT 408CT


secondofangle said:
I saw it and played with it today. Still a prototype. They say 3rd quarter for delivery. I'd say it's the Atlas version of an LRA…. Not bad, but not any better than the LRA except it pans. No price yet. 10.5" height, just under LRA IIRC.

Then I went and played with the Elite Iron Revolution (which may come down in price as they begin casting some of the parts), and I'm sold. One will be ordered ASAP. And my LRA will be for sale. (BTW, LRA+QD+Leg extensions == $650+ ~~EI LRA)



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Back on topic, This is the Bi-Pod I am waiting for! I like the Atlas bipod, but, I had to buy extensions and the claw feet to get it more to my functionality.


@KASEY: You are probably meaning the 4th quarter of CALENDAR 2014 ? (Oct-Nov-Dec) Which would put it AFTER Deer & Elk season here in Utah! Ugh. I am used to operating on Federal FY qtrs.

Any chance of a pre-production group buy again? :cool:

Also, By chance will the Atlas line of accessories work with this new Big Boy (extensions & claw feet) ?

~Will
 
I wonder if there will be any adapters for the Sako TRG 42 as I do not see these bi-pods costing any more than the $450 for the Sako bi-pods. What is the price?
 
William_LXIX -

Any chance of a pre-production group buy again? :cool:

YES!

Also, By chance will the Atlas line of accessories work with this new Big Boy (extensions & claw feet) ?

NO :( well, I guess we could make an adapter to reduce the ID so the V8/PSR options could be used....

Price and Availability are the two questions!

Price will be reflective of the American made product offered and guessing in the 350 -450.00 range. Availability- Late 2014 barring anything crazy.....

skeeterIII - the 5-H will be flexible in it's mounting, a rail mount will be one option and getting a rail on your TRG is easy with several manufacturers offering solutions.
 
Please notify me of a group buy as well. Kasey makes great products AND an amazing supporter to members of the Hide.
 
Third quarter now, any intell on production status? I have a new kit coming in and this bipod would be a perfect fit...
 
Sc0- said:
Third quarter now, any intell on production status? I have a new kit coming in and this bipod would be a perfect fit...
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The original post said THIRD QUARTER - the post by KASEY three weeks prior to yours said this:

Availability- Late 2014 barring anything crazy.....


So yeah, lets hope nothing crazy happens at B&T, as there is plenty of crazy happening everywhere else!


~Will
 
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