I bought the barrel assembly from Osage County Guns in MO. They sell a lot of Sig parts and one can buy a barrel with the extension on it for around $429.
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@BELLYCRAWL You mentioned in another thread that the new barrel did not have proper headspace when you installed it. This makes me wonder if the original barrel was actually off in some headspace-related tolerance? Sounds like it is water under the bridge for you, but it might explain the CS response and shooting performance of the original barrel.
I don't have calipers. I was hoping someone with a factory 6.5 barrel may have already measured and could provide some feedback. I'd appreciate it!
The original barrel was headspaced to my bolt, but I’m not sure on the OG barrels’ thread concentricity on either the barrel or extension.
I typically check all my rifles’ headspace upon first out of the box cleaning. I’m afraid to confess how much money I have in head space gauges.
A ruler to get an approximation?
The difference between .700" and .835" is pretty noticeable.
I can get that measurement for you later since I have a spare barrel laying in the bench.
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Hey folks - Who would be interested in purchasing an action wrench for the SIG Cross?
I am talking about an honest to goodness tool, not an OUT OF STOCK fantasy that SIG or taconesports.com advertises for $175+. After days of trying to enjoy the "multi-caliber" concept that attracted me to the SIG Cross (see thread here), I have reached a point where I am ready to do something. Not to brag, but rather to establish my street creds ... I have three degress from decent schools (Mechanical Engineering BS from WPI, Engineering Mechanics MS from Virgina Tech, MBA from MIT) and have 30 years of experience including ~15 years of prototype development for the military (some for SOCOM).
Right now, I am getting the tools designed and a price quote for a limited manufacturing run, e.g. 6-24 pieces. The price will be below $175 and the tool will make a lot more sense than what I have seen available.
Any takers? If your would consider buying one, please like this post and I will use that to gauge interest.
Update (3/17/2023).
Please see the initial design concept below. My thought is to build a tool that leverages what many of us already have in our toolboxes where possible. The action wrench depicted in the image below would fit on the end of a 1/2" socket extension and torque wrench. The person using this tool would need a method to secure the gunbarrel (preventing it from rotating), such as a bench vise with soft jaws or a barrel vise.
Update (3/28/2023):
We are going to take measurements at the end of this week and get a prototype 3D printed to check fitment before doing detailed manufacturing drawings. If you would like one of these tools, please like this post and I will reach out to you directly. We can define pricing once we get a quote from a machine shop.
Comments and suggestions are welcome.
Hey folks - Who would be interested in purchasing an action wrench for the SIG Cross?
I am talking about an honest to goodness tool, not an OUT OF STOCK fantasy that SIG or taconesports.com advertises for $175+. After days of trying to enjoy the "multi-caliber" concept that attracted me to the SIG Cross (see thread here), I have reached a point where I am ready to do something. Not to brag, but rather to establish my street creds ... I have three degress from decent schools (Mechanical Engineering BS from WPI, Engineering Mechanics MS from Virgina Tech, MBA from MIT) and have 30 years of experience including ~15 years of prototype development for the military (some for SOCOM).
Right now, I am getting the tools designed and a price quote for a limited manufacturing run, e.g. 6-24 pieces. The price will be below $175 and the tool will make a lot more sense than what I have seen available.
Any takers? If your would consider buying one, please like this post and I will use that to gauge interest.
Update (3/17/2023).
Please see the initial design concept below. My thought is to build a tool that leverages what many of us already have in our toolboxes where possible. The action wrench depicted in the image below would fit on the end of a 1/2" socket extension and torque wrench. The person using this tool would need a method to secure the gunbarrel (preventing it from rotating), such as a bench vise with soft jaws or a barrel vise.
Update (3/28/2023):
We are going to take measurements at the end of this week and get a prototype 3D printed to check fitment before doing detailed manufacturing drawings. If you would like one of these tools, please like this post and I will reach out to you directly. We can define pricing once we get a quote from a machine shop.
Comments and suggestions are welcome.
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How much and how much does it weigh vs the original?
It’s $300 on the sig site, which is highway robbery. I got it on sale for closer to $200, which I feel is more in alignment with the market. I haven’t weighed either of them and don’t really think about that kind of stuff. I will say the rifle doesn’t feel like I added very much if any weight.
Received feedback on material selection for my SIG Cross action wrench concept from Nick at Straight Jacket:
Additional feedback is welcome!
Additional feedback is welcome!
I decided to forgo the Sig Cross, due to lots of things I would change about them, and their hit-or-miss consistency, and landed on 2 Christensen Arms MPR rifles instead... Both 16", one in .308 Win, and the other in 6mm ARC. They are similar in design (feel) to the Sig Cross, which is similar to an AR platform, since the grip is a pistol grip, and the stock is setup in a straight line with the action, but after a few hundred shots I'm getting better with them. It's for sure a muscle-memory learning curve to shoot a chassis gun, but I have a feeling that with time, I'll be as comfortable as I am with a traditional stock'd rifle.
I would like one please
Eh. Most people don’t need a rail all the way down the handguard. And adding a 2 inch longer barrel doesn’t give that much more velocity. From what I see it looks like this model is about $200 more than the standard model. My 18 inch Creedmoor cross shoot under half inch groups very easily.
Yeah, not really sure why they added this along with the PRS. But I guess more choices are usually good.
Beats me. If you can get over not having the arca rail that the PRS comes with, you can get a standard cross for $1500, and a custom prefit for $509, and probably have a better shooter than the PRS model for $500 less
I still think they should have made a short barreled version in .223 for the European hunting market.
I’d buy a 223 16-18” cross in a heart beat
It would have to be Pin and Welded or it wouldn’t sell here
Count me in!
Maybe, but the PRS has more than a longer barrel, like ARCA rail you mention, but also the heavier stock, different grip, better mag release, etc
Can you provide a video showing an M16/M4/AR15 firing when dropped? Anything other than internet lore and fudd gun store myth?
Screw this! Where is the availability of barrel extensions and more importantly, .277 Fury?
does .223 become a viable hunting round out of a short barrel once you get to Europe?
In England .223 is used mainly for foxes and two small breeds of deer.
My short barreled .223 has accounted for a lot of foxes and deer with the farthest fox being 237y. Where I shoot, it is mainly small fields and rolling hills so a short barreled, light .223 is perfect for the job.
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that makes a lot of sense, especially at that range. curious, are foxes there a pest animal or do you hunt them for meat/pelt?
also, that doesn't look like a short barrel in your photo, no? i know .223 loses a lot of velocity under 11/10".
I have a friend here in the states that’s been hunting with a 223 bolt gun for years, shooting steel cased soft points. Hadn’t had a deer get more than 10-20 yards.
I wouldn’t do it, unless I had to.
Has the sig cross made anyone else LOVE short rifles?
I just had a 18” savage cut down to 16” and threw a tract hunter scope on it.
I wouldn’t do it, unless I had to.
Has the sig cross made anyone else LOVE short rifles?
I just had a 18” savage cut down to 16” and threw a tract hunter scope on it.
Foxes are a pest for farmers as they take lambs, piglets, chickens, etc. Same situation on game shoots with the birds.
My .223 is a straight pull Schmeisser with a 14.5" barrel, Ase Utra moderator, Timney trigger and Ergo grip. Nosler tipped 55g Federal factory ammo leave the barrel at 2848 fps and takes no prisoners!
I grew up in upstate NY-I can say that tons of deer, big ones at that have been taken with .22 WMR and .222(aka triple deuce)
As for .223-put them in the right spot and it will fall over. 16" with a 62 grain TBBC. Although other than dangerous game, most small/medium calibers do the job if placed well.
I think if Sig released the Cross in .223/5.56, it would be a hit.
As for .223-put them in the right spot and it will fall over. 16" with a 62 grain TBBC. Although other than dangerous game, most small/medium calibers do the job if placed well.
I think if Sig released the Cross in .223/5.56, it would be a hit.
Yes, I have one, but measuring this distance does not seem straight forward.
Do you have advice regarding the points to measure on the gun?
measure from where the ring halves meet to the bottom of the eject port on the action, which is about center of the barrel.
Thank you. Your advice gave me more insight and I tried a few ideas of my own in addition to yours. I came up with 1.2" from the barrel center (used the firing pin hole in the bolt) to the top of the picatinny rail. This was on the standard Cross, 308.
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I had some pretty serious heat drift issues with my original Sig barrel - issues persisted after a trip back for a barrel swap. I decided to stop messing around.
Paul Craddock of Craddock Precision is working up a Bartlein 400MODBB barrel for me in 6.5 Creedmoor with an M24-ish profile. Will report back when it arrives and I’ve had a chance to run it through its paces.
Given the work he’s done before, I’m excited for the result and the turnaround times once these are in production.
Paul Craddock of Craddock Precision is working up a Bartlein 400MODBB barrel for me in 6.5 Creedmoor with an M24-ish profile. Will report back when it arrives and I’ve had a chance to run it through its paces.
Given the work he’s done before, I’m excited for the result and the turnaround times once these are in production.
Nice. Did you get a price?
The barrel from Craddock showed up, and I might have ended up with a bit more barrel than I bargained for. Still, a handy rig and excited to get it out.
