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Everyone acts like there will be one final straw and people will water the tree of Liberty.

Ain’t never gonna happen.

Lon, Lois, mike et alwalking around free and well shows the right side will bow down to anything.

And anyone that would do something something would be an immediate outcast. Hell look at the people banned here for telling he truth and hurting feelings. <-just an example, it’s the same in every forum or club.

Use the system. Wait for the courts. That has worked well for 34, 68, 86, 19, 20
 

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Well to shake the fleas you’d have to kill off the only dog in town. People like their dog and don’t want to give it up. Even those that realize it’s infested with fleas.
The dog has turned into a cancer ridden zombie that attacks its owner.

It needs to be put down and get a new one.

The public servants have become the masters. Limited constitutional government has been gone for what 100-150 years
 

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So let me ask you....

What have YOU done? Seems to me, you are part of the “no one”.

Overall, i disagree. Level heads are prevailing. Dont ever forget, the anti’s are TRYING to push someone over the edge. So far, the only ones they’ve been able to get to go over is their own people.
Donate a lot of money to various gun groups.
Given away ARs and other guns to new or poor or fudd shooters
Attended public protests. Never doing that again. Peaceful protests do nothing.

Not participated in ostracizing or driving away the people on our side that have some fire in their bellies. Too many people push away people that are angry/have a record etc. choir boys ain’t who you need to get stuff done if we ever get to that point
 

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Speaking of ostracizing. The people pushing /enforcing /supporting all tbis should be ostracized/shouted down etc.

Instead we have people buying their coffee or lunch and trying to write letters to tyrants to try and change Their minds.

We should be protesting outside their house at 2am with a bull horn. Like the left would do.
 

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The dog has turned into a cancer ridden zombie that attacks its owner.

It needs to be put down and get a new one.

The public servants have become the masters. Limited constitutional government has been gone for what 100-150 years
Ownership of the dog was usurped long ago. The true owners, those with the dog whistle and flea collars that actually work, intend to let the dog continue to behave badly until they ultimately use it to deliver everyone up to the dragon.

This old dragon will be handing out spiritual death disguised as good. Problem, reaction, solution. That is what is in store for this world.

Unfortunately not many will know or will have cared enough about their inheritance enough to know that’s all part of the plan.

If your church man never told you all this, it is likely because all religions of men’s words and traditions are one leg of four on the dog controlled by someone else

The other three legs are politics, education, and finance.

Now you may kick the dog til it’s down if you like. But in that ensuing chaos that is most likely when they will spring the dragon.

The ship ain’t turning around. And the plan will proceed just as intended. Everything you could imagine lies at the end for those that don’t relinquish their inheritance to the imposter that comes claiming to be God.

Don’t listen to those that say there is no conspiracy. This entire world is framed on one.
 

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Well to shake the fleas you’d have to kill off the only dog in town. People like their dog and don’t want to give it up. Even those that realize it’s infested with fleas.
You don't necessarily have to kill the host to eradicate the parasites.
Like us with the Dims, the dog doesn't want the fleas, much less the ticks. You treat the cause and keep the good dog around.
 

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While it has some significant flaws and is a bit overly glossy in it's treatment of somehow innately "virtuous" folks who everyone else seems to some how worship with religious devotion and live their lives to serve. I think a lot more people need to read and really ponder the basic idea of Atlas Shrugged.

Most of the evil in the world these days, including in our own country is enabled and supported by all the "good" people who get up every morning, work hard to keep the world running, pay tons of taxes to "follow the law" and then go home and "comply" with orders.

How long do you think our over bloated, communist controlled government would last if every single net tax payer said "Screw it" and sat down, calculated how much money they could make each year to not only not pay taxes but be able to claim maximum government benefits. Then adjusted their lifestyle to be able to do that and put it into practice for a couple years?

Lots of "good" people run the infrastructure that keeps the entire society going. What if they all just decided one day to act like the same stupid idiots they are supporting and only do exactly what they were told how they were told and only when told without offering any of their own intellect to the equation and see how long the lights stay on.

A very small group in any country are the ones actually keeping the lights on and the food coming. That's what every "Communist" and "Socialist" regime runs into, once those stop working or you don't have them anymore because you put them in the camps / drove them out, well good luck getting much out of those you pretend to pay who also pretend to work.

Guilt, Fear & Shame are the chains that are used to enslave those that keep the world running.
 

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Your correct nothing will happen because it has to get that bad to were people say what do I have to lose. They have to take the guns your money your land and start reducing your food supply. Just like Sleepy Joe said you need F15's to protect yourself against your government you have no chance with AR15's that why you don't need them.
 

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Leftists have one thing in spades over conservatives. Their willingness the break the law, create havoc to get attention. Leftists will riot, march, burn shit, kill people to effect change. Doesn't matter what country, their tactics are exactly the same.

Us, not so much. We complain on internet boards, attend a few peaceful protests with a few hundred people, vote most of the time. Then we go to work on Monday.
 

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Leftists have one thing in spades over conservatives. Their willingness the break the law, create havoc to get attention. Leftists will riot, march, burn shit, kill people to effect change. Doesn't matter what country, their tactics are exactly the same.

Us, not so much. We complain on internet boards, attend a few peaceful protests with a few hundred people, vote most of the time. Then we go to work on Monday.
They will use .gov to target people/groups/companies they don’t like also.
They aren’t afraid to lie cheat steal and murder either
 

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Liberty will end with a whimper, not a bang.
???
Seems like a lot of bangs?

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This book is full of people that had enough tyranny

Unlike school shootings and Islamic terrorism, .gov doesn’t want copycats like Carl drega so the stories and back grounds are buried
 

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Everyone acts like there will be one final straw and people will water the tree of Liberty.

Ain’t never gonna happen.

Lon, Lois, mike et alwalking around free and well shows the right side will bow down to anything.

And anyone that would do something something would be an immediate outcast. Hell look at the people banned here for telling he truth and hurting feelings. <-just an example, it’s the same in every forum or club.

Use the system. Wait for the courts. That has worked well for 34, 68, 86, 19, 20

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Everyone acts like there will be one final straw and people will water the tree of Liberty.

Ain’t never gonna happen.

Lon, Lois, mike et alwalking around free and well shows the right side will bow down to anything.

And anyone that would do something something would be an immediate outcast. Hell look at the people banned here for telling he truth and hurting feelings. <-just an example, it’s the same in every forum or club.

Use the system. Wait for the courts. That has worked well for 34, 68, 86, 19, 20
You are assuming because some people have "clammed up" and folks are withdrawing from the spotlight, that they have given up or disconnected?

FFS think beyond your nose and be a bit more patient with your fellow rednecks and Patriots.
 

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Leftists have one thing in spades over conservatives. Their willingness the break the law, create havoc to get attention. Leftists will riot, march, burn shit, kill people to effect change. Doesn't matter what country, their tactics are exactly the same.

Us, not so much. We complain on internet boards, attend a few peaceful protests with a few hundred people, vote most of the time. Then we go to work on Monday.
This is because people on the left are bad folks. All of them.
 
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In her apparition of July 13, 1917, Our Lady of Fatima told Sister Lucy that “Russia will spread its errors throughout the world, raising up wars and persecutions against the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, and various nations will be annihilated.”

Like it or not, she was right. Unlike conservative radio talk shows, she gave a solution. If you truly care you would do what she said.
 

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In her apparition of July 13, 1917, Our Lady of Fatima told Sister Lucy that “Russia will spread its errors throughout the world, raising up wars and persecutions against the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, and various nations will be annihilated.”

Like it or not, she was right. Unlike conservative radio talk shows, she gave a solution. If you truly care you would do what she said.
What she say
 

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Observe the first Saturday devotions with the intention of saving your country from communism. We are in a spiritual war. The Left is not just bad, they are evil. Once upon a time Austria did just that and Russia gave it up as a satellite over night.
 

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Observe the first Saturday devotions with the intention of saving your country from communism. We are in a spiritual war. The Left is not just bad, they are evil. Once upon a time Austria did just that and Russia gave it up as a satellite over night.
What does that mean exactly?
 

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In her apparition of July 13, 1917, Our Lady of Fatima told Sister Lucy that “Russia will spread its errors throughout the world, raising up wars and persecutions against the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, and various nations will be annihilated.”

Like it or not, she was right. Unlike conservative radio talk shows, she gave a solution. If you truly care you would do what she said.
(Sigh)
So, pretty much what "is written" already. I mean except for the Russia part. It can be universally applied.
 

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Frank doesn't like political talk and he hates religious talk so at a risk here I'll be short.

If your Catholic (not Novus Ordo but real traditional Catholic) you must pray the Rosary every day and attend the first Saturday Mass with the intention of the conversion of Russia. It is the root of all the ill menacing the world today.

If you are a baptized Christian you must pray two Our Fathers every day, one for faith and the other for courage because the prayer for faith will be answered and you'll need courage.

If your not even Christian you can't help. You are part of the problem and will surely burn in Hell. I'm supposed to be charitable and believe it or no I'm trying to be.

You must admit that communism is just plain killing us. If you do some searching on the apparition of Fatima, which happened during the Bolshevik revolution in Russia and is Heaven's solution for us, you will learn more than I can expound here.

I'm not saying we should lay down and take it. I'm not saying that at all. What I hope to inspire in my fellow Americans is what Francisco Franco Bahamonde inspired in his fellow Spaniards when the army took the field vs the communist Pinko gov. Regular Spanish civilian men arrive by the truckload to help him, and remarked "We are confessed and communed and ready to do the will of our God". As you well know, Franco won that war, then held off Hitler himself, and continued on in Spain despite being hated by all Western media. Ask any Spaniard his opinion of Franco and the picture is wildly different than what we are told in school or the news.
 

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Or you could also believe The Almighty Creator likes those that help themselves and get out and make Communists into Good Communists the only way that is possible.......

Also Communists are just another tool and stooge by the global elite who are the ones that really want to run the world.
Some play the communists, some play capitalists, some play bankers, some play religious leaders, some play fascists, some play monsters.

Look for who controls the pawns you see lined up against you and figure how to skip wasting your strength on them and go for the hand that moves them or the more important pieces tucked safely behind the pawns.
 

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Simple solution, re take the public school system, and try finding common ground with those of opposing views. It took 100 years for this shit to get to this point, it won't be fixed any quicker.
 

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Also Communists are just another tool and stooge by the global elite who are the ones that really want to run the world.
Some play the communists, some play capitalists, some play bankers, some play religious leaders, some play fascists, some play monsters.

Look for who controls the pawns you see lined up against you and figure how to skip wasting your strength on them and go for the hand that moves them or the more important pieces tucked safely behind the pawns.
Agreed 100%. Jefferson said " We are saddled and bridled, and the Bank is so firmly mounted we go where it wills". I fully understand that Russia is a tool of the global elite. That realization is in no way at odds with the solution. When Russia converts to our side, the banksters will be done for, big time.
 

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Simple solution, re take the public school system, and try finding common ground with those of opposing views. It took 100 years for this shit to get to this point, it won't be fixed any quicker.
You are more correct than almost anyone has courage to admit. Those who send their children to public schools are in fact working against them and the country. It's that far gone. Those schools are not what they were when even we went through.

Work as if it's all up to you, pray as if it's all up to God.
 

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I'm teaching another Project Appleseed next Saturday in the cold WI winter if you want to come out and help teach Americans to shoot and instill in them a sense of gratitude for what has been given us, I'll be there.

Don't get down on yourselves too much, just respond to the crisis what you can. Those are the talents given you and that's all that will be required of you.
 

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Furthermore, I consider it an honor to be part of this group. Almost no where else are real men searching for real solutions and are honest enough to discuss things that may be uncomfortable. Thank you all here, it gives me hope. Elias thought himself alone but was reprimanded "seven thousand men in Israel, whose knees have not been bowed before Baal, and every mouth that hath not worshipped him, kissing the hands."
 

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School system is fucked up but I believe the parents can get their children through it successfully, yes my daughter spent time in the principle office for standing up for the Troops and American values. Yes I didn't want her getting in trouble in school but I had no problem with what she was doing fighting the system and calling out the liberal kids in her class for being un American. Had the same difficulties in College as well , she wears a lot of clothes with the American Flag on them .
Always explain to the kids we're only free because Arlington Nation Cemetery is fill with people who fought and sacrificed their lives for us.
 

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Your correct nothing will happen because it has to get that bad to were people say what do I have to lose. They have to take the guns your money your land and start reducing your food supply. Just like Sleepy Joe said you need F15's to protect yourself against your government you have no chance with AR15's that why you don't need them.
Have you been deployed in any combat zone in the last 15 years? If you have, you then you know that last part isn’t true. It’s not AR15 specific, but people like the taliban, as dumb as they are, have managed to put up quite the struggle...despite the entire wrath of the US military. This is with a man dress, and ak/rpk/dishka/rpgs and IEDs. They had no planes. They have no helicopters. They don’t have tanks. Most of these idiots are just farmers that still wipe their ass with there bare hands and no running water.

My point being, I wouldn’t take much stock in what joe Bidens opinions are on warfare. He leaves unconventional warfare up to the professionals because he’s simply a pencil pushing moronic politician. Unconventional warfare conducted smartly can and to this day IS deadly...
 

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Have you been deployed in any combat zone in the last 15 years? If you have, you then you know that last part isn’t true. It’s not AR15 specific, but people like the taliban, as dumb as they are, have managed to put up quite the struggle...despite the entire wrath of the US military. This is with a man dress, and ak/rpk/dishka/rpgs and IEDs. They had no planes. They have no helicopters. They don’t have tanks. Most of these idiots are just farmers that still wipe their ass with there bare hands and no running water.

My point being, I wouldn’t take much stock in what joe Bidens opinions are on warfare. He leaves unconventional warfare up to the professionals because he’s simply a pencil pushing moronic politician. Unconventional warfare conducted smartly can and to this day IS deadly...
No I never served in the Military I owe my life to the ones that did and still serve. I know Joe is not the sharpest tool in the shed but it seems politicians like him like Eric Swalwell who would drop nukes on Americans who didn't hand over their arms. They are suppose to be working for us but it has become a separate class that believe they are above us deplorables.
Talibans have fended off the Russians and the Americans with AK47's wearing sandals and towels. What the Bidens and such don't understand that they are only 525 people against 300 million which maybe only 10% could bring it which is 30 million. I don't care how many F-15's you have the stats don't work.
 

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You are more correct than almost anyone has courage to admit. Those who send their children to public schools are in fact working against them and the country. It's that far gone. Those schools are not what they were when even we went through.

Work as if it's all up to you, pray as if it's all up to God.
As much time as my brother and I spend re educating his 4 boys, yeah, they would be a lot better off out of public school. I am going to be attending my 2nd Appleseed this year so that I can get my instructor started with them I already have my NRA certificates but I feel I'd be put to better use in that organization.
 
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My answer, support and WORK for your local conservatives running for office. I met and spoke with a naturalized Indian (dot not arrow, obviously) who is running for congress here in central TX and he is the real goods. We need to change things at the local level. I volunteered for his campaign. While I miss Army Jerry and subscribe to the "BMA" creed, we need to at least try to forestall the onset of the boogaloo with every peaceful means available IMO.
 

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Stamp Act 1765
Townsend Acts 1767-1768
Boston Massacre March 5, 1770
Tea Act May 10, 1773
Boston Tea Party December 16, 1773
Coercive/Intolerable Acts 1774
First Continental Congress September 5 to October 26, 1774
Concord and Lexington April 19, 1775
Second Continental Congress May 10, 1775
Declaration of Independence July 2, 1776 (passed) & July 4, 1776 (adopted)

Point is...it is discouraging to sit back and watch but these things take time. John Adams was probably wringing his hands at the inaction of his fellow patriots.
 

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Stamp Act 1765
Townsend Acts 1767-1768
Boston Massacre March 5, 1770
Tea Act May 10, 1773
Boston Tea Party December 16, 1773
Coercive/Intolerable Acts 1774
First Continental Congress September 5 to October 26, 1774
Concord and Lexington April 19, 1775
Second Continental Congress May 10, 1775
Declaration of Independence July 2, 1776 (passed) & July 4, 1776 (adopted)

Point is...it is discouraging to sit back and watch but these things take time. John Adams was probably wringing his hands at the inaction of his fellow patriots.
@johnnycat, Left handed, right minded I say.

to those who waited and complained too long Sam Adams wrote; “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
 

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@johnnycat, Left handed, right minded I say.

to those who waited and complained too long Sam Adams wrote; “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
Legendary
 
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Fact...revolutions and civil wars don't start until people are hungry, unemployed , physically attacked or the prospect of any of those 3 are imminent and certain.
I've been saying that for a while, nobody is going to put down their phones, get out of the climate controlled houses to go to war. People will continue to sit around until the conditions you describe. I am sure I will catch a bunch of shit for this but some of us have to have our medications or we are fucked after we run out. Not much help as it is currently.
 

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Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break in pieces.

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Middle class respectability is a function of a sense of security. When that sense of security begins to implode as a society experiences chaos, the middle class stops clinging to respectability.

And then the real conflict begins.

-Daniel Greenfield
 

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This thread sounds like a lament. It shouldn’t be. If the left successfully drip-drips away our liberty it would be a miracle. They’ve never done it anywhere ever.

The whole leftist enterprise is based on and dependent on force. It’s government against the people all the time for their own good (see my sig). Progressive/communist ideology is naked, collectivist force. You’re kidding yourself if you think it’s any different. They won’t be able to help themselves. They will attack like they always do, and no one will have any choices...
 

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You are assuming because some people have "clammed up" and folks are withdrawing from the spotlight, that they have given up or disconnected?

FFS think beyond your nose and be a bit more patient with your fellow rednecks and Patriots.
IMHO, you're on point. I can't count how many stories have read, then scroll down to the comments section only to hear from the armchair operator talking about his arsenal of weapons and the HUGE stash of ammo he's got laying in wait. Wake the fuck up! Every electronic transmission is being gathered and stored, and if uncle ever decides to use it, it's just like a roadmap to your front door. I personally don't worry much about the loudmouth in the room, I fear the quiet one with the knowing smirk. The left has been doing everything they can to antagonize the true patriots, and I, for one, am surprised at the amount of restraint that has been shown. Not many years ago, If you'll remember, Malloy in Ct. came out with all of this bluster about registration and confiscation, and was basically called out in the legislature by a simple citizen, to put up or shut up. They got an estimated 15% compliance rate, and no doors broke down and nobody killed. All eyes are on Va. right now, and I think what happens there will set the stage going forward. You have to remember, the political right in this country is kinda new to this standing up and fighting back. Historically, any time the right has been attacked, they crumpled into the fetal position and got quiet. Slowly that is changing. I do believe for every internet warrior with a chest rig and a surplus mosin-nagant telling the world to lock and load, there are a thousand quietly going about the business of preparing for what is coming somewhere down the road. I could be wrong though. Just my two cents.
 

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I've been saying that for a while, nobody is going to put down their phones, get out of the climate controlled houses to go to war. People will continue to sit around until the conditions you describe. I am sure I will catch a bunch of shit for this but some of us have to have our medications or we are fucked after we run out. Not much help as it is currently.
Regardless of abilities, issues, handicaps, etc., there's always a way to be of use. My vocation requires me to use MANY tools at my disposal, and regardless of the size or complexity of the tool, none are useless. Teams are made up of many players, and all are necessary to be successful. study the history of some of the individuals involved in our own country's fight for independence.
 

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Uhh, people ARE doing many things. I didn't make it to the AZ rally on Sat. I was in NRA RSO training all day Sat. (I passed the test lol)

So I talked to a local today who went to the rally. Said he saw families. Gay gun groups. Little kids with merican flag shirts. Transgender chick (dude) with an AR. Thousands of pro 2A folks.

I actually think the Commies pushed the gas pedal too hard. They went past almost everyone. And from what I can tell 75% of folks in the USofA are thinking WTF!