So why didn’t you pay $300 for a vortex scope if it’s good enough, I have one on my 223 sps Tactical that works & shoots sub moa. There are also a lot of people who think a $300-500 scope is good enough & a $1600+ leupold isn’t necessary. Does that make them right
Where did you get a demo from
Savvy
I recommend a spuhr for anything. They make 0 MOA mounts.
Spuhr sp-5602 or cantilever spuhr sp-5616. I would get the 20moa can’t. Don’t get the cantilever model if you don’t need it because you might want to move it to a bolt or something. Go to optics planet & use the coupon code GRAB15
Yeah it wouldn’t matter too much using a 16in 308. It will take around 10 mils to zero at 100 yards & you will still have 20 mils to go. Go to spuhr site & look at the different models & pick 20 or 0
No problem & also plum the reticle & check the tracking. I never assume the tracking is perfect, most good scopes are right on but that doesn’t mean a bad one can’t slip through quality control now & again
www.gunsamerica.com I looked at geiselle & love their triggers. Spuhr has some things I like that geiselle doesn’t have like a built in bubble level, built in angle for scope leveling wedge, & then all the different options for adding mini red dots or micro t red dots. The geiselle are cantilever moving the scope forward, so it’s good for an ar but not for a bolt. The price is close to the spuhr so for me I like the spuhr. What do you like better about the geiselle
The spuhr is on sale a lot at optics planet for $340. The bubble I can’t see very well on the spuhr but I use it to practice & now I don’t need one I can see because practice has me level. I think I might buy some geiselle mounts for my ar’s. I use an arisaka level on other 1 piece mounts it just makes it a lot easier to plum the reticle. With the sale price it will be $245-260, I will have to watch for a sale. What about mounting rmr’s on them?
Keep in mind I wrote that before these scopes had really hit the market so none of us were aware of how good or how bad the Mark 5 was, I also made my comment in response to the author of the article who mentioned Leupold was "bringing the heat" with the 5-25x56 when the market is already flooded with really good 5-25 scopes, a better expression would be "catching up" but certainly not bringing the heat. All that to say I did purchase a Mark 5 3.6-18x44 and while my copy was not as impressive optically as I hoped I was very impressed with their turrets. I am not a "touchy feely" guy when it comes to turrets, my basis is - can I click through without looking at the turret and know where I'm at, most scopes can do that for me, even the sub $1000 PST II and XTR II have decent turret feel to me, but the Mark 5 turrets are probably my favorite if I have to rank turrets (among scopes I've used which have been many), the spacing was ideal and the clicks were very distinct and I loved the zero lock, not just a stop but an actual lock, very nice design. If Leupold would come out with a Christmas Tree reticle that was on par with the competition I'd have to give serious consideration to the Mark 5, but until they bring out that reticle and reduce the price of their illumination (which puts their scopes above the price of much of their competition which all come with illumination by default) then sadly the Mark 5 will not be adorning any of my rifles.
I agree, I think that both the turrets and the light gathering ability are my favorite features of the Mark 5.
7-35 in a Spuhr 5602 on a 20s
I’ve heard from some people that scars can be tough on optics. Have you had any problems or heard of other people with scars having problems7-35 in a Spuhr 5602 on a 20s
Im sorry I meant the line thickness at 20x for the 5-25 & 7-35. Example, the atacr line thickness for the mil-c reticle is .04 mils at max power 35x(7-35x), 25x(5-25x), 16x(4-16x) So if you turn the 5-25x & 7-35 down to 16x the line thickness is .0256 for the 5-25 & .0182 for the 7-35 vs .04@16x of the 4-16x. The open center dot is .05 mils at 35x (7-35) & 25x (5-25). 7-35 dot is .05@35x, .04@28x, .03@21x, .02@14x, & .01@7x. 5-25 dot is .05@25x, .04@20x, .03@15x, .02@10x, & .01@5x. The center dot of the 7-35 at 21x is .03 mils & the 5-25 at 20x .04 mils. I was comparing the line thickness at 15-20x on the 5-25 & 7-35. It’s a little bit smaller on the 7-35 but not bad. The 7-35 dot on 14-21x is .02-.03 mils & 15-20x is .03-.04 mils for the 5-25. This is how the nightforce tech explained it to me, how the line thickness shrinks at different powers, & how it differs between the 4-16, 5-25, & 7-35 atacr. I should have been more clear when I asked how they compare at 16-20x
Those are for changing your tube size if you already own a $210 larue lt104 & want to change scopes that are different tube sizes. They won’t attach to a pic rail, it only attaches at the base of the lt104. If you want cheaper rings vortex/seekins makes good match quality for around $100
I switched from the Cronus BTR and was not disappointed!
