Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

[MKSMN]

The notion that “its both sides” is also not even close…

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Look at the overall picture here:
Very conservative report about 3% openly sometimes justifying violence, 88% never.
Conservative: 7%, 83%. 9% not sure.
Liberal: 17%, 68%. 12% not sure.
Very liberal: 25%, 55%. 14% not sure, and 6% unwilling to say...which probably means they're a yes but don't want to openly admit it.

What really tells the story is the proportion who are willing to say that citizens resorting to political violence is never acceptable:
Very Liberal: only 55% are willing to outright disavow using violence.
Liberal: 68%
Conservative: 83%
Very Conservative: 88%

The differential between Very Conservative and Very Liberal: 12% of Very Conservative respondents might be willing to resort to violence (1 in 10 of us? Still too high imo) while almost HALF of Very Liberal respondents don't disavow violence.
Conservatives, 17% don't outright disavow violence. Still less than 2 in 10. Liberals? It's more than 3 in 10.

WE ARE NOT THE SAME.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Just how stupid does this fucktard think people are? If he thought the situation was so "dangerous" there'd be a look of earnestness and resolve -- not the maniacal gleeful ear to ear exuberance.

He's only trying to save his ass because he got nailed. ESAD

What a cowardly piece of shit.

 

[gigamortis]

It’s wrapped up and he drops it off the roof then pics it up…the videos on this thread

Thanks. I missed that. So many different resolutions and cropped videos from all kinds of sources floating around.

I still find it suspicious how quickly Kirk's body was processed and put in a casket. Any other high profile murder victim would get a week long autopsy.

 

[Rthur]

Look at the overall picture here:
Very conservative report about 3% openly sometimes justifying violence, 88% never.
Conservative: 7%, 83%. 9% not sure.
Liberal: 17%, 68%. 12% not sure.
Very liberal: 25%, 55%. 14% not sure, and 6% unwilling to say...which probably means they're a yes but don't want to openly admit it.

What really tells the story is the proportion who are willing to say that citizens resorting to political violence is never acceptable:
Very Liberal: only 55% are willing to outright disavow using violence.
Liberal: 68%
Conservative: 83%
Very Conservative: 88%

The differential between Very Conservative and Very Liberal: 12% of Very Conservative respondents might be willing to resort to violence (1 in 10 of us? Still too high imo) while almost HALF of Very Liberal respondents don't disavow violence.
Conservatives, 17% don't outright disavow violence. Still less than 2 in 10. Liberals? It's more than 3 in 10.

WE ARE NOT THE SAME.

I'll wager they are going to make it very hard to take the high road in the near future.
Those that incite them know the nature of conservatives.

R

 

[akmike47]

Thanks. I missed that. So many differently cropped videos from all kinds of sources.

Yeah this threads gone nuts

 

[NoDopes]

What is our confidence level of Kash Patel's f b i discovering any connections and motivations that may exist?

The question should be what are the odds the FBI fagots assist the group with coverups.

I’ve got a buddy that swears by it. Never did it because 95% of my shots the deer wouldn’t go 10 yards. Fast forward 2 years ago, took sight, squeezed the trigger, hit right where I was aiming, saw the deer mule kick, so I knew I made a quality shot, got down earlier than I should have, but I shot at last light, so wanted to get a head start on retrieving the deer. Walked in where I saw him go, heard him get up and take off. Called my wife, son, and mother in law in to track the animal. All we ever found was 3 pin head . Never did find that deer. Messed my hunt up that year because I don’t like not recovering what I put my crosshairs on. Following year, said fuck it, I’ll try the neck shot. It was the most amazing thing to witness as the deer crumpled right on top of itself. Didn’t move at all. Going forward, it will be my shot of choice. With the 6.5 creedmore, it was pencil in, pencil out, almost no blood. View attachment 8767599

Nice set of racks. Is that an A and a C?

 

[HogsLife]

Just watched a better video of that freak show running across the roof top and jumping down after the shooting. Definitely has a rifle.

 

[Sniperwannabee]

 

[FourT6and2]

Ok then show me. I’m willing to admit I missed it

The security camera video is out there. Just go find it and watch it. Or find any one of the hundreds of analysis videos on YT. He was carrying the rifle wrapped in a black towel. He puts it down on the edge of the roof, hangs down, grabs the rifle, drops to the ground, and runs off across the grass. You can clearly see it in his hands. This shouldn't really be news at this point. But I'm not going to go off across the internet looking for videos and photos that were already posted all over again.

 

[akmike47]

The security camera video is out there. Just go find it and watch it. Or find any one of the hundreds of analysis videos on YT. He was carrying the rifle wrapped in a black towel. He puts it down on the edge of the roof, hangs down, grabs the rifle, drops to the ground, and runs off across the grass. You can clearly see it in his hands. This shouldn't really be news at this point. But I'm not going to go off across the internet looking for videos and photos that were already posted all over again.

doesnt even have to go far, you’re pages away

 

[dustingaunder]

Thanks. I missed that. So many different resolutions and cropped videos from all kinds of sources floating around.

I still find it suspicious how quickly Kirk's body was processed and put in a casket. Any other high profile murder victim would get a week long autopsy.

Why would you think they need to do an autopsy? It wasn’t an unattended death and there aren’t any clues left to gather by cutting the dude up.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

 

[supercorndogs]

Because I have common sense enough to know you wouldn’t see them with body armor unlike half of you geniuses.

Bateman's body armor had nipples on it. Did the teenage mutant ninja turtukes have nipples. Now you're wondering aren't you? Sicko.

 

[HogsLife]

 

[akmike47]

Bateman's body armor had nipples on it. Did the teenage mutant ninja turtukes have nipples. Now you're wondering aren't you? Sicko.

Turtukes, nice lol

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

Nah man. F*** them. Dont let them do that to you. Thats exactly what they want. That’s terrorism in a nutshell. disrupt your movements through instilling fear. F*** that. I just don’t want nothing happening to the POTUS. Just gotta keep our heads on a swivel.

Exactly. And if your numbers is up it's up.

I went to the CK BH Freedom Rally today. At peak there was probably at least 1000 - up to 1500 people. Probably a good 75 were bordering all along Santa Monica Blvd waving American flags. The line of cars honking in support was non stop for a couple hours and quite literally deafening at points. A LOT of young kids too. Even a few 10 - 12 year old kids standing of the concrete barriers waving flags and chanting Charlie Charlie Charlie. All that to say anyone could have driven by and easily fired into the crowd or run over supporters that were over flowing into the street. The very few that had issues merely drove by all pus-faced and flipping us off. Not an Antifa or protestor to be seen anywhere. And this is right next to fag city WEHO

 

[FourT6and2]

If I was a leftist assassin, I damn sure wouldn't waste getaway time by breaking a bolt action rifle down for a more easily portable package.

Tyler Robinson didn't do this either. Where are you getting your misinformation?

Why even reassemble it later to just ditch it? The intended job of the murder weapon was already satisfied.

Tyler Robinson didn't do this either. Where are you getting your misinformation?

How many other murder victims have you seen thrown in a casket so quickly? Normally, at least a week goes by for a detailed autopsy documenting bullet path/s to determine the direction of the shots.

His funeral isn't for a while. They are probably doing a detailed post mortem and forensics report. Whether or not they release that information to the public is another story.

 

[FourT6and2]

The video footage of the suspected shooter descending from the roof and jumping to the ground definitely does not show a visible assembled rifle length object of any sort on his person.

You. Are. Wrong.

Even if we were to believe the rifle to have been disassembled for transport to the shooting position, reassembling it and expecting the same zero as before is a crap shoot.

That's because this didn't happen. You are experiencing cognitive dissonance by trying to argue that something that never happened... didn't happen.

 

[Daddyusmaximus]

What a cowardly piece of shit.

Not only a piece of shit... but completely FULL of shit.

"against the prophet of islam"...

100% an anti-Christian hater that was celebrating. Probably yelling aloha snackbar.

 

[HogsLife]

Not only a piece of shit... but completely FULL of shit.

"against the prophet of islam"...

100% an anti-Christian hater that was celebrating. Probably yelling aloha snackbar.

This is what we’re dealing with. Straight demonic

https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/minneapolis-shooting-suspect-used-photo-of-jesus-for-target-practice-video-shows-catholic-church-robin-robert-westman-transgender-christians-violence-terrorism-hate-crime-fbi-investigation-minnesota-guns-rifle-shotgun-pistol-weapons-children-killed-hurt

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

poetic comeuppance



Gad sad sums it up well

 

[BCP]

poetic comeuppance

Him winning anything in the first place just shows how deeply fucked we are.

 

[Defiantly_Not_Bender]

 

[Eostech]

I just wanted to know what kind of level of proficiency would be required to make a shot like this and if I could explain the neck hit - which seemed like a really unlikely place to aim

I understand what you are saying but in reality the scope could have been broken and out by 2 foot while the shooter horribly fucked the shot up but still managed an unlucky hit as both factors cancelled each other out. When it comes to shooting, variables have a 50/50 chance of having a positive outcome.

Probably flew right though and didn't expand at all, plus we don't know what ammo he was using could've been FMJ, could've been grandpa's hunting handloads, don't think it's stated. If you've ever hunted you've probably seen deer and elk that were lunged and the bullet goes right through with minimal damage the exit is almost like the entrance. That's why I always go for a shoulder shot tons more stuff there to hit and knock them down.

I seems a lot of people here have never shot more than paper, even someone that rarely hunts should have a basic grasp on what happens or fails to happen when a bullet hits an something living. There are hundreds of documented wounds from WW2 and after where bullets did super weird shit.

Probably wouldn’t hurt to take a look at air rifle guy as well.

My first thought was that it was some professional pest control business, you know the guys that shoot pigeons that get stuck in shopping centres and start shitting everywhere? That would explain why he had an air rifle, why it was suppressed and why he was driving around with it within easy reach. Probably a bit sloppy but that's what happens if you do the same thing for years without anything happening.

Yeeeaaaah, pretty sure dating a dude doesn’t really align to well with Nick Fuentes ideology…

Fuentes is un-ironically pretty gay.

 

[Defiantly_Not_Bender]

 

[Defiantly_Not_Bender]

 

[TahoeDust]

The fact they have not recovered the bullet from what I have seen makes me wonder if it hit a plate and sprawled. I doubted the plate theory at first, but seems like with a clean shot the bullet would be easy to recover.

 

[6.5SH]

 

[Defiantly_Not_Bender]

 

[Sniperwannabee]

 

[Edsel]

One beardie baldie, two beardie baldies, three beardie baldies…

…all opining simultaneously on YouTube.

Quite the phenomenon

 

[Makinchips208]

My first thought was that it was some professional pest control business, you know the guys that shoot pigeons that get stuck in shopping centres and start shitting everywhere? That would explain why he had an air rifle, why it was suppressed and why he was driving around with it within easy reach. Probably a bit sloppy but that's what happens if you do the same thing for years without anything happening.

I never thought of that, but good point.

And does remind me of a buddy of mine was getting paid to shoot birds in town. He let me join in. It was fun. Pigeons or doves or whatever they were. Grey birds that sat on the roof of the library and sheriff office, and pooped on everything.

We shot them from the doorway of the laundromat, the barber, the corner by the parts store. And sometimes I would go into the alley and climb up on the roof above the parts store, overlooking main, and snipe pigeons off the roof of the sheriff office. Haha! Small town Idaho was fun.

All with air guns.

 

[Samuel Whittemore]

 

[Edsel]

 

[akmike47]

That aged well you dumb cunt lol

 

[Pillow Gun]

The reason he is wearing sunglasses is to cover up his bloody black eyebrow.
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I am still not clear how he carried the rifle and how he managed with it jumping down from the sniper's nest.

 

[akmike47]

I am still not clear how he carried the rifle and how he managed with it jumping down from the sniper's nest.

If you’re this confused after it being explained 15 times just give up, you’ll never understand hands

 

[6.5SH]

I am still not clear how he carried the rifle and how he managed with it jumping down from the sniper's nest.

If the vids weren't on TMZ I'd directly link them. The infil was with it down his right pant leg with the stock mostly behind or in his backpack if he was clever enough to open it near the bottom, his shirt was untucked.
The videos are from the same house in the area he parked his car. The earlier video was hours prior and he was wearing shorts and a maroon shirt, likely he did some sort of recon. The later video was shortly before the shooting and he was wearing the dark long sleeve shirt and pants and walking with a stiff right leg. One of the FBI released still images showing him from the rear on the stairs you can see a rather long straight "tent" on the back of his jeans on the right leg.

The exfil vids have been posted multiple times including a decent quality one (given the camera).

 

[Pillow Gun]

If the vids weren't on TMZ I'd directly link them. The infil was with it down his right pant leg with the stock mostly behind or in his backpack if he was clever enough to open it near the bottom, his shirt was untucked.
The videos are from the same house in the area he parked his car. The earlier video was hours prior and he was wearing shorts and a maroon shirt, likely he did some sort of recon. The later video was shortly before the shooting and he was wearing the dark long sleeve short and pants and walking with a stiff right leg. One of the FBI released still images showing him from the rear on the stairs you can see a rather long straight "tent" on the back of his jeans on the right leg.

The exfil vids have been posted multiple times including a decent quality one (given the camera).

You have been eyes master baggins!!

That explains the limp walk. Now it makes perfect sense.

 

[LuckyDuck]

I'm back from "vacation" but don't have the time to get through 56 pages...

I'll just say this- I'm still processing the assassination. I'm upset.

I'm angry that they killed such a young & brilliant man. I've watched Charlie for about nine years now and I've always been amazed with his ability to recall information & his ability to set up a pop up tent on college campuses and give his "detractors" all the time in the world to research their position and still be proven wrong.

I saw him get shot & it threw me through a downward spiral. I saw him get shot and remembered other folks in a past life being shot in the same place. I saw President Trump announce on his social media that Charlie died. And I sat there at work not knowing what to do & nobody around me caring that he was killed.

I went home and told my wife about it & she didn't care. I told a friend with strong liberal leaning about it wanting to talk about my concerns and all she came back with was "I don't know who that is, was that the Nazi? Nobody cared with the Missouri or whatever person that was murdered."

I started writing a response to her about how one can be compassionate without being political before being told she didn't have time for messaging because it'd become political but it's probably for the best he was killed. And then I saw all the "anti" responses...

I didn't know Charlie Kirk personally but I've watched him for about 9 years and really thought he was something special.

-LD

 

[Mr.BR]

Most importanty, provided enough cover to prevent any more Epstein releases .

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/senate-republicans-defeat-democrats-effort-force-release-epstein-125461494

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Most importanty, provided enough cover to prevent any more Epstein releases .

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/senate-republicans-defeat-democrats-effort-force-release-epstein-125461494

"""“I ask my Republican colleagues, after all those years you spent calling for accountability, for transparency, for getting to the bottom of these awful crimes, why won’t you vote yes?"""" Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said in a floor speech Wednesday.
He knew the answer to that question even before he asked it.

 

[Edsel]

Most importanty, provided enough cover to prevent any more Epstein releases .

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/senate-republicans-defeat-democrats-effort-force-release-epstein-125461494

"""“I ask my Republican colleagues, after all those years you spent calling for accountability, for transparency, for getting to the bottom of these awful crimes, why won’t you vote yes?"""" Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said in a floor speech Wednesday. He knew the answer to that question even before he asked it.

 

[Fx51LP308]

"""“I ask my Republican colleagues, after all those years you spent calling for accountability, for transparency, for getting to the bottom of these awful crimes, why won’t you vote yes?"""" Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said in a floor speech Wednesday.
He knew the answer to that question even before he asked it.

Are they (Republicans) more fearful that further releases of these files will cause more damage to Republicans than Dems?

 

[Jingoist]

Make it make sense...

 

[Whiskey_Tango6.5]

 

[Jingoist]

 

[Longshot231]

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Are they (Republicans) more fearful that further releases of these files will cause more damage to Republicans than Dems?

It's just a game being ran on the public. The Dems do not want to lose their R teammates at all, otherwise it's over for all of them. They just want the public to believe the D's are trying their best to bring Justice, when they are just as deep into Epstein's shit as anyone else.
Same kind of shit went on with cans & sbrs in the BBB, it's all B/S drama for the public to believe there is a diff between the D's & R's when they're but the same, once the doors close,...

Edit to add,
Look who was in power when the NFA act, the 68 GCA, & 922(0) was implemented, as well as the crash of 1929. Its all a game to make you believe one party stands for XYZ, and the reason they fight so hard to stop a third party from forming. The BBB having hopes on passing the can & sbr dream was never going to happen, what they did pass was just appeasement to the wake up that is happening.

 

[Jingoist]