SWATTING is attempted murder

You left out that most of them probably are combat vets.

Finally got around to researching this further. Key citations included at the bottom of the conclusion.


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This freakin DEI clown is a “Major”

 
You left out that most of them probably are combat vets.

There is truth in that.

It’s a natural progression for many.

Law Enforcement after a stint in the Military.

There was an article which I’m having trouble finding, discussing some of the problems associated with this - the inability to dissociate the prior “destroy” mindset from what is presently required, which is to “protect.”

On top of that, they also discussed a population of low - achieving, sociopathic bullies entrenching themselves as cadres in the Law Enforcement community.

There are serious underlying problems, no doubt.
 
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There was an article which I’m having trouble finding, discussing some of the problems associated with this - the inability to dissociate the prior “destroy” mindset from what is presently required, which is to “protect.”

Not exactly this PDF, but it discusses the very same ideas.
 

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It is time to demiliterize our police altogether. Disband every Swat team nationwide. Take away the MRAPS, seriously what the fuck. No more no knock warrants. If our Police are not smart enough to investigate, and make arrests when suspects go to the store or are out of the house on their own then they just shouldn't wear a badge. This projection of force like they are the military is ridiculous. Too many bad situations come from this. Drawing a firearm should be a cops absolutely last resort. Seems like anymore its the 1st thing they do. Too many wrong addresses, and innocent people getting shot. We can do better than our current law enforcement is doing.
 
tons of LE love BS here.
combat vets? some but the mostly obese ones i see around had to have fought 20 yr ago,like when they were 10 yo
can't criticize or blue heroes since you haven't been one? more pig love. then you can't criticize a DR,politician,actor,pilot,waiter etc etc unless you have been 1.
without QI they wouldn't do anything. they don't do anything now except eat donuts and write speeding tickets and swagger around like the bad asses they think they are.
Obama was the one that started militarizing the cops. giving them armored cars,helos,comm gear,bunch of ex mil stuff. always thought he had an SA like thing planned-an armed group loyal to him only,politically reliable and close to army in fighting power.
this stuff in addition to everything they steal thru asset forfeiture. feds do that too sometimes give it to local NKVD sometimes.
 
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tons of LE love BS here.
combat vets? some but the mostly obese ones i see around had to have fought 20 yr ago,like when they were 10 yo
can't criticize or blue heroes since you haven't been one? more pig love. then you can't criticize a DR,politician,actor,pilot,waiter etc etc unless you have been 1.
without QI they wouldn't do anything. they don't do anything now except eat donuts and write speeding tickets and swagger around like the bad asses they think they are.
Obama was the one that started militarizing the cops. giving them armored cars,helos,comm gear,bunch of ex mil stuff. always thought he had an SA like thing planned-an armed group loyal to him only,politically reliable and close to army in fighting power.
this stuff in addition to everything they steal thru asset forfeiture. feds do that too sometimes give it to local NKVD sometimes.
As Far as started by Obama: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
This was 1997, and likely started an increase of militarization
 
I'm not even saying that it started here, just that it has been slowly progressing more every day

No knock warrants are unconstitutional AF, and beyond stupid, and if people get killed, then those responsible should be prosecuted. I know I'm preaching to the choir here. I just didn't want my statements taken without context
 
As Far as started by Obama: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
This was 1997, and likely started an increase of militarization
Both perps were career criminals that should have been in the pokey prior to the shootout.
Thus eliminating the chance to engage in one.
Had robbed banks prior.
I'll bet some parole board or liberal judge had a hand in them being still on the loose.
Mentioned policies lead to the "need/use" of jackets and equipment.
I'll bet it had an effect on budgets as well.
This seems all to familiar...


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I’m aware it’s not new fag - been posting about it for years . Wrote letters helped co sponsor a bill to make swatting a felony - it didn’t go anywhere cause who wants to stop domestic terrorism?

We don’t agree on much, but this was a good thing. A lot of the swatting issue is exacerbated by crossing jurisdictions. A lot of agencies don’t have the resources or legal ability to pursue the person who started it. The Feds don’t seem to help a lot, unless it’s a repeat offender.
 
can't criticize or blue heroes since you haven't been one? more pig love. then you can't criticize a DR,politician,actor,pilot,waiter etc etc unless you have been 1.

There is a lot of truth to this. We all have opinions on how things should be. Very few people understand any of what is going on around them; especially, in the specifics and nuances of how a certain thing is/was done. It’s easy to criticize outcomes and offer purported solutions. When uneducated (on the subject) people force solutions, it’s often at the cost of even worse unintended consequences.

A good example of this is in anti-human trafficking. A bunch of advocacy groups convinced politicians Backpage needed shut down. They got it done. Immediately, it forced traffickers further underground. Finding missing children who were trafficked went from difficult to nearly impossible. In the short term, the numbers went down, so did the funding. There wasn’t less crime, they just hid it better and made victims harder to find. Several of us warned against it, but what did we know. We were just the people putting in the effort to actually stop this shit.
 
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Ignoring all the other ridiculous shit in this thread, I’ll just add from someone one the inside:

- Mose LE are *not* combat vets
- Swatting should definitely be considered a felony and punished as such
- None of us in LE should be treated any differently than anyone else for the most part. No one is a “hero” just for being on the job. (Like it or not, qualified immunity is absolutely a necessity and anyone willing to be in LE without QI is either flat out brain dead or will just sit in their vehicle and not do anything at all. No one here is going to agree because most none here have the actual experience on knowledge to know how important it is)
Everytime I put a seal on building plans, I own it for life. That's why I have professional liabilty insurance. If someone dies, I'm at risk of jail/prison. You're saying I should never seal plans because my job comes with risk if I fuck up?

A doctor should never treat patients or do surgery because their job comes with risk?

A good portion of the general public need liability insurance in the event they fuck up. I'm for licensing of LE and a higher salary, but you fuck up, you can pay the price like others.

Where can I get some of this immunity for my job?
 
Everytime I put a seal on building plans, I own it for life. That's why I have professional liabilty insurance. If someone dies, I'm at risk of jail/prison. You're saying I should never seal plans because my job comes with risk if I fuck up?

A doctor should never treat patients or do surgery because their job comes with risk?

A good portion of the general public need liability insurance in the event they fuck up. I'm for licensing of LE and a higher salary, but you fuck up, you can pay the price like others.

Where can I get some of this immunity for my job?
Sorry only seems available to some - a “special few “ like popo and judges and experimental vaccine makers