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National Security Action Memorandum, 263.
More proof Kennedy was playing both sides and making poor decisions. Flip Flop wish washy crap.
Supporting the Coup, but then saying we will withdraw troops(1,000 of the 15,000 there) because diem is strong and the coup will fail.
Kennedy was fucking up.
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Blind terrorist attacks, you mean like you did to civilian trains?
Here's the answer to that one.
What kind of shitty AI picture is that?
On a serious note, what is there for Putin to bomb?
He's already taken out airports, NATO bunkers, their underground gas storage facilities, weapons locations. Maybe he'll target their electric infrastructure again?
You'll be dead long before me,...
yep starting with Roosevelt [while not a war monger] failed to recognize ho chi minh mainly because he was unheard of and left leaning . Truman and Eisenhower were foreign policy handcuffed by the korean draw and neither wanted to look giving away vietnam . The french fell into a really bad time in their history ....recovering from WW2 , many of their colonies were in armed revolt against them . Westmoreland [imho] was the wrong general for the war and our presidents failed to declare a national emergency and none wanted the loss to be in their history record .
This kind of parallels Trumps first term, in a way. One reason I am against anyone new taking over, of using anyone that was making or advising policy prior.
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Two countries been going at it hard for years. Money, equipment, patience is all close to exhausted, pretty sure that’s what the definition of desperation was made for. Pretty sure you’ll see more of this type of behavior from both sides
The first one to blink loses.
Screencap from AI generated slop circulating on twatter in nafo circles.
Those absolute retards spread that as evidence of the great success that is operation spiderweb.
While Ukraine claims 9-12 planes permanently destroyed, counter to SBU's original claim of 41, and Russia claims 4-6 permanently out.
Lifted straight from Wiki, but IMO highlights how Kennedys blunder was the mistake that led to US escalation in Nam. The North pounced on the disarray it caused as he severely weekend the souths position.
In 1963, Hồ purportedly corresponded with South Vietnamese President Diệm in hopes of achieving a negotiated peace.[109] During the so-called "Maneli Affair" of 1963, a French diplomatic initiative was launched to achieve a federation of the two Vietnams, which would be neutral in the Cold War.[110] The four principal diplomats involved in the Maneli affair were Ramchundur Goburdhun, the Indian Chief Commissioner of the ICC; Mieczysław Maneli, the Polish Commissioner to the ICC; Roger Lalouette, the French ambassador to South Vietnam; and Giovanni d'Orlandi, the Italian ambassador to South Vietnam.[110] Maneli reported that Hồ was very interested in the signs of a split between President Diệm and President Kennedy and that his attitude was: "Our real enemies are the Americans. Get rid of them, and we can cope with Diệm and Nhu afterward".[110] Hồ and Maneli also discussed the Ho Chi Minh Trail, which passed through officially neutral Cambodia and Laos, saying "Indochina is just one single entity".[111]
At a meeting in Hanoi held in French, Hồ told Goburdhun that Diệm was "in his way a patriot", noting that Diệm had opposed French rule over Vietnam, and ended the meeting saying that the next time Goburdhun met Diệm "shake hands with him for me".[112] The North Vietnamese Premier Phạm Văn Đồng, speaking on behalf of Hồ, told Maneli he was interested in the peace plan, saying that just as long as the American advisers left South Vietnam "we can agree with any Vietnamese".[113] On 2 September 1963, Maneli met with Ngô Đình Nhu, the younger brother and right-hand man to Diệm to discuss the French peace plan.[114] It remains unclear if the Ngo brothers were serious about the French peace plan or were merely using the possibility of accepting it to blackmail the United States into supporting them at a time when the Buddhist crisis had seriously strained relations between Saigon and Washington.[113]Supporting the latter theory is the fact that Nhu promptly leaked his meeting with Maneli to the American columnist Joseph Alsop, who publicized it in a column entitled "Very Ugly Stuff".[113] The possibility that the Ngo brothers might accept the peace plan contributed to the Kennedy administration's plan to support a coup against them. On 1 November 1963, a coup overthrew Diệm, who was killed the next day together with his brother.[113]
Diệm had followed a policy of "deconstructing the state" by creating several overlapping agencies and departments that were encouraged to feud with one another to disorganize the South Vietnamese state to such an extent that he hoped that it would make a coup against him impossible.[115] When Diệm was overthrown and killed, without any kind of arbiter between the rival arms of the South Vietnamese state, regime authority in South Vietnam promptly disintegrated.[116] The American Defense Secretary Robert McNamara reported after visiting South Vietnam in December 1963 that "there is no organized government worthy of the name" in Saigon.[117] At a meeting of the plenum of the Politburo in December 1963, Lê Duẩn's "South first" faction triumphed, with the Politburo passing a resolution calling for North Vietnam to complete the overthrow of the regime in Saigon as soon as possible; while the members of the "North first" faction were dismissed.[118] As the South descended into chaos, whatever interest Hồ might have had in the French peace plan faded, as it became clear the Việt Cộng could overthrow the Saigon government. A CIA report from 1964 stated that factionalism in South Vietnam had reached "almost the point of anarchy" as various South Vietnamese leaders fought one another, making any sort of concerted effort against the Việt Cộng impossible; leading to much of the South Vietnamese countryside being rapidly taken over by communist guerilla forces.[119]
As South Vietnam collapsed into factionalism and in-fighting while the Việt Cộng continued to win the war, it became increasingly apparent to President Lyndon Johnson that only American military intervention could save South Vietnam.[120] Though Johnson did not wish to commit American forces until he had won the 1964 election, he decided to make his intentions clear to Hanoi. In June 1964, the "Seaborn Mission" began as J. Blair Seaborn, the Canadian commissioner to the ICC, arrived in Hanoi with a message from Johnson offering billions of American economic aid and diplomatic recognition in exchange for which North Vietnam would cease trying to overthrow the government of South Vietnam.[121] Seaborn also warned that North Vietnam would suffer the "greatest devastation" from American bombing, saying that Johnson was seriously considering a strategic bombing campaign against North Vietnam.[122] Little came of the backchannel of the "Seaborn Mission" as the North Vietnamese distrusted Seaborn, who pointedly was never allowed to meet Hồ.[123]
When does Russia get to laugh?
I suppose only one man can do so.
Russia is poor on the floor begging NORKs for bodies and artillery shells and now they lost the last leg of their triad that actually works. If they press the button on their ground based nukes, many will detonate right in place as birds have long been nesting and squirrels fornicating in their silos.
Soviet submarines destroy themselves without Western intervention.
I always thought that you guys feel a kinship with Putin, as he is on-his-knees begging Iran for advanced weapons and begging the NORKs for not-advanced-weapons... it's not unlike you Commie Shitholes offering to suck dick for beer money outside of the 7-Eleven and then pulling out your Obamaphone to post that something is "gay" or "communist" in the Bear Pit.
Welcome to the next revolution in military affairs.
The superpowers are all trying to develop "attritable" platforms/ assets/ weapons without realizing that EVERYTHING is attributable on the battlefield.
Our own strategic geniuses already lost redacted (a great deal of MQ-9s) during our billion-dollar-month fighting the Yemenis on behalf of the J-state.
Now we see the Soviets have lost... probably every non-deadlined long-range bomber they've been keeping alive... in a matter of minutes.
The perpetrators in the first case? Skirt-wearing tribesman who carry daggers and simply said "LA" to the violent expansion of the J-state and continued victimization of the goyim.
In the latter? A small, poor European country that was already decimated by years of war on their own soil, and who had already been told by Trump, "You don't have the cards," right before he bent over and spread his cheeks for Putin.
This is the modern-day-equivalent of the highly trained French Knights being zeroed out by peasant English Longbowman at Agincourt.
It's almost like Twitter screencaps are not reliable sources of information and people in this thread need to stop trusting them as gospel,
For example this guy
Blindly believes 48 hours after a specific successful attack, the all knowing puccian intelligence apparatus successfully killed the exact mastermind behind a specific attack, and all the times they've killed civilians and claimed it was 50 HATO generals and a borris Johnson were just simple mistakes, or misinformation, or they didn't happen at all.
Geriatric Pop pops and gramps across the states think their finely curated and targeted twitter algorithm is a private intelligence committee which delivers them unbias truth. It's sad how easily the elderly are manipulated on the internet. Just remember, when Dasha asks you to pay for her plane ticket via Amazon gift cards, it's a dude and you're never getting any of that sweet steppe sister pussy.
When does Russia get to laugh?
I suppose only one man can do so.
Russia is poor on the floor begging NORKs for bodies and artillery shells and now they lost the last leg of their triad that actually works. If they press the button on their ground based nukes, many will detonate right in place as birds have long been nesting and squirrels fornicating in their silos.
Soviet submarines destroy themselves without Western intervention.
I always thought that you guys feel a kinship with Putin, as he is on-his-knees begging Iran for advanced weapons and begging the NORKs for not-advanced-weapons... it's not unlike you Commie Shitholes offering to suck dick for beer money outside of the 7-Eleven and then pulling out your Obamaphone to post that something is "gay" or "communist" in the Bear Pit.
Welcome to the next revolution in military affairs.
The superpowers are all trying to develop "attritable" platforms/ assets/ weapons without realizing that EVERYTHING is attributable on the battlefield.
Our own strategic geniuses already lost redacted (a great deal of MQ-9s) during our billion-dollar-month fighting the Yemenis on behalf of the J-state.
Now we see the Soviets have lost... probably every non-deadlined long-range bomber they've been keeping alive... in a matter of minutes.
The perpetrators in the first case? Skirt-wearing tribesman who carry daggers and simply said "LA" to the violent expansion of the J-state and continued victimization of the goyim.
In the latter? A small, poor European country that was already decimated by years of war on their own soil, and who had already been told by Trump, "You don't have the cards," right before he bent over and spread his cheeks for Putin.
This is the modern-day-equivalent of the highly trained French Knights being zeroed out by peasant English Longbowman at Agincourt.
Ukraine attacks Putin's prized Kerch bridge to Crimea
Ukraine's SBU security service said on Tuesday it had hit the road and rail bridge linking Russia and the Crimean peninsula below the water level with explosives.
Your propaganda,... like you,... is a thin vail. W/O the west and your so called leader begging for money/gear/people all the time,... where would you be? Think before posting, or get another programmer, this is getting too easy,...When does Russia get to laugh?
I suppose only one man can do so.
Russia is poor on the floor begging NORKs for bodies and artillery shells and now they lost the last leg of their triad that actually works. If they press the button on their ground based nukes, many will detonate right in place as birds have long been nesting and squirrels fornicating in their silos.
Soviet submarines destroy themselves without Western intervention.
I always thought that you guys feel a kinship with Putin, as he is on-his-knees begging Iran for advanced weapons and begging the NORKs for not-advanced-weapons... it's not unlike you Commie Shitholes offering to suck dick for beer money outside of the 7-Eleven and then pulling out your Obamaphone to post that something is "gay" or "communist" in the Bear Pit.
Welcome to the next revolution in military affairs.
The superpowers are all trying to develop "attritable" platforms/ assets/ weapons without realizing that EVERYTHING is attributable on the battlefield.
Our own strategic geniuses already lost redacted (a great deal of MQ-9s) during our billion-dollar-month fighting the Yemenis on behalf of the J-state.
Now we see the Soviets have lost... probably every non-deadlined long-range bomber they've been keeping alive... in a matter of minutes.
The perpetrators in the first case? Skirt-wearing tribesman who carry daggers and simply said "LA" to the violent expansion of the J-state and continued victimization of the goyim.
In the latter? A small, poor European country that was already decimated by years of war on their own soil, and who had already been told by Trump, "You don't have the cards," right before he bent over and spread his cheeks for Putin.
This is the modern-day-equivalent of the highly trained French Knights being zeroed out by peasant English Longbowman at Agincourt.
Probably blowing up 34% of puccian strategic bomber fleet from a coffee shop in Kyiv 3+ years into a failed 3 day blyatzkrieg laughing at zigger lovers
Remember the abducted children Putin got ICJ warrant for....
Suddenly there are only 320 no 20.000 and to folks that cant read past headlines these kids were taken from orphanages in a warzone , no one gave a fuck and left them there ,
Meanwhile business adapts.
Suddenly there are only 320 no 20.000 and to folks that cant read past headlines these kids were taken from orphanages in a warzone , no one gave a fuck and left them there ,
Meanwhile business adapts.
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It looks like numbers initialy claimed were greatly inflated , from 40 so far it looks like might be 12 , so far from 34% of anything. No doubts operation was a stunning succes but ,nothing that would change the balance or course of the war.Probably blowing up 34% of puccian strategic bomber fleet from a coffee shop in Kyiv 3+ years into a failed 3 day blyatzkrieg laughing at zigger lovers
But it is definitely now rising alarms in the west as well as we look at our own airforces' vulnerability to exactly same type attack
That just goes to show that the ICJ is essentially a propaganda and persecution machine for the EU politicians.
There is a good reason the USA and Israel and Russia and anyone smart refuses to deal wit them.
Evacuating children and other innocents from a warzone is like a virtuous thing that you should be doing.
I guess the EU loves being like the Muslims where they want to use children as human shields to protect their troops.
One should do their best to evacuate any children, innocent and actually for that matter any civilians possible from an active war zone to cut down on any civilian casualties.
Of course the EU and the Ukrainians want to see dead children to try to stir up propaganda victories.
Joined here in 2014, has 77 posts total, last 74 about this war. Nothing about the sights theme in any post. The hide is infected with this kind of trash,...
Doesn't, just laughing at your vial attempt at your true goal here.
Give it a rest.
This sock puppet account has been busted, might as well retire it and bring up another dormant sock puppet account to try again.
Sorry retard, we're not liberals. We arent mad or upset at all. We are just tired of this crap. It doesn't work, hasn't worked at all in changing our minds (other than going against what the sock puppets espouse). You have showed as glowie or foreign intelligence sub actor or paid shill the entire time and we have taken anything you have said through that lense. Which means it is all bull crap.
when this twitter post puts pearl harbor attack in quotations, who are they quoting? Do you think the CIA planned, funded and executed the attack? Does this mean trump is complicit? What did he mean by this? Tinfoil hat boomers, GO!
Not working any longer here. You'd have a better chance spewing your trash on COD to the basement crowd. You may gain traction for a short time, but they even have half a brain,...
i assume they are quoting other more "mainstream" outlets.
how would i know if the cia planned this? if they did, i doubt they would have told trump about it.
Russia's 'Pearl Harbor': What to know about Ukraine's audacious drone strike
Ukraine unleashed more than a hundred drones smuggled deep into Russia in what it called its most damaging attack yet.
www.usatoday.com
Satellite images show aftermath of "Pearl Harbor" strike on Russia
The success of "Operation Spiderweb" hands Ukraine a boost ahead of peace talks in Istanbul on Monday with Russia.
www.newsweek.com
you seem to disparage social media as sources, but they are more reliable than cnn, msnbc or other outlets that have been caught lying to the public for many years.
We call them "The Deceived."
They struck out at life and they're looking for someone or something to blame. Reality is uncomfortable for them, so they look for someone to lie to them, because it helps them create an alternate world to go live in- online.
In this world, Trump won the 2020 election, Joe Biden is a Cybernetic Organism, Hillary Clinton is a High Priestess of the Satanic Church, the painter guy at Home Depot is a foreign invader criminal terrorist - but Larry Hoover of the Black Gangster Disciples was unjustly persecuted by institutional racism in the judicial system, and... this one is wild... Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is a master of strategy and power, dealing with the "deeply unfair" rules-based international order and simply trying to re-exert his influence over his "Zone of Special Privilege" (the Soviet Sphere).
When they repeat these lies - TOGETHER - it bonds them tightly because they know that Barack Obama wasn't born in Kenya but they're all telling the same lie and it makes them feel good, not rejected.
They study these lies harder than they've ever studied any subject in school, and they rehearse and repeat them to try and get better in making the Kremlin's talking points, Beijing, J-state Hasbara, BLM, etc...
That's what you're seeing here- Commie Shitholes hating America and rehearsing their threat messaging... from all the different sources... in allll the different threads.
In truth, I've personally seen more than 12 destroyed assets of different types, and it might actually be 100% (and beyond) of their air-ready, FMC, not-deadlined fleet.
Why is it always the illiterates?
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I don't actually think that these are St. Petersburg IRA Operators who have poor English skills- these are the deceived, who sought out the liar, and who consume the lie enthusiastically.
In America though, we HATE the Liar and we LOVE the Truth.
we largely reject main stream media because they are proven to be liars without remorse or conscience.
I don't understand why they're so MAD though. They've lived long, comfortable lives engorged on mcdonalds, dominos pizza only a 30 minute phone call away and filling their double-wides with cheap plastic garbage from walmart and target. And what caused them to think russia was their friend all along? The MSNBC hosts saying trump and putin were basically best friends? Or was it the putin shirtless bareback photos?
there are already 3+ Uke trolls posting here. i see a recent uptick in their presence and activity.. wonder why.
My guess is those who are profiting from the war and want a bigger war are very afraid of Trump being able to make peace and a stop to the war, so they have to push for more brazen attacks to try to push the war into a big escalation that is hard to back away from.
@nkk , @kalashnikev , @SNB
OK, seriously I am a free speech absolutist. But you three clowns have to the be DUMBEST three people I've ever seen on this website. And that's saying something, we've had some weapons-grade idiots on here. I would actually support banning kalashnikev on the basis of stupidity alone.
I hate to smack you in the face with the truth, but here it is. Ukraine cannot defeat Russia in an existential war. Its not possible. Ukraine can only survive, by prolonging the conflict beyond the Russian resolve to continue. Thats it. There is no scenario where when the dust settles, Russia is gone and Ukraine exists. But Ukraine no longer existing is a very real possibility.
Russia can turn Ukraine to radioactive dust the minute it decides to. It has chosen not to, because logically no-one really wants to see nuclear war. Except Ukraine, apparently. Why the hell, when your only way to win is for the Russians to get tired of war, would Ukraine do something like attack Russia's nuclear arsenal? That's fucking braindead! The only reason Ukraine isn't already glowing in response is because you don't have any nuclear weapons. In other words, Ukraine is NOT a real threat.
This is not the modern day Agincourt, its the equivalent of a woman slapping a man and then strutting around because he stood there and took it. As proof of that, if the USA hit 40 Russian nuclear bombers like that, Armageddon would already have happened, because that would have been a real threat to Russian existence.
Ukraine's only hope to outlast Russia was western backing. Americans are sick of sending money to Ukraine already. You think we're gonna roll over there and defend you if the gloves come off? Fuck that! We can't even muster enough political support to win our own wars, WTF makes you think we'll come over there and win yours for you? And Europe can't afford to buy the amount of viagra it would take for them to get a boner again. Without the US, you think NATO can do anything? After this debacle, if I were Trump I'd call Putin as tell him we're done with these assholes, you march westward and we'll bomb Kiev for you, you can have it. Russian control of Ukraine would be a safer world then allowing Zelinsky to continue.
OK, seriously I am a free speech absolutist. But you three clowns have to the be DUMBEST three people I've ever seen on this website. And that's saying something, we've had some weapons-grade idiots on here. I would actually support banning kalashnikev on the basis of stupidity alone.
I hate to smack you in the face with the truth, but here it is. Ukraine cannot defeat Russia in an existential war. Its not possible. Ukraine can only survive, by prolonging the conflict beyond the Russian resolve to continue. Thats it. There is no scenario where when the dust settles, Russia is gone and Ukraine exists. But Ukraine no longer existing is a very real possibility.
Russia can turn Ukraine to radioactive dust the minute it decides to. It has chosen not to, because logically no-one really wants to see nuclear war. Except Ukraine, apparently. Why the hell, when your only way to win is for the Russians to get tired of war, would Ukraine do something like attack Russia's nuclear arsenal? That's fucking braindead! The only reason Ukraine isn't already glowing in response is because you don't have any nuclear weapons. In other words, Ukraine is NOT a real threat.
This is not the modern day Agincourt, its the equivalent of a woman slapping a man and then strutting around because he stood there and took it. As proof of that, if the USA hit 40 Russian nuclear bombers like that, Armageddon would already have happened, because that would have been a real threat to Russian existence.
Ukraine's only hope to outlast Russia was western backing. Americans are sick of sending money to Ukraine already. You think we're gonna roll over there and defend you if the gloves come off? Fuck that! We can't even muster enough political support to win our own wars, WTF makes you think we'll come over there and win yours for you? And Europe can't afford to buy the amount of viagra it would take for them to get a boner again. Without the US, you think NATO can do anything? After this debacle, if I were Trump I'd call Putin as tell him we're done with these assholes, you march westward and we'll bomb Kiev for you, you can have it. Russian control of Ukraine would be a safer world then allowing Zelinsky to continue.
lol, you must be projecting. i have never shopped at walmart, and it is probably 20 years since i have been inside a target store.
is putin flooding america or europe with muslims?
while i don't support either side of this proxy war, i don't think he (putin) is the biggest enemy of western civilization.
the threat is the bolshevik socialists that fled the soviet union and now occupy brussels and washington dc.
Not true- you reject the mainstream because your handlers direct you to do so.
This is the VERY FIRST STEP to radicalization.
Hey, kid- are you still following your lame ass cleric at the local mosque? Where did that get your dad? Running a chain of stationery/ candy stores in small town America? I got some FIRE right here on this Anwar al Awlaki mixtape...
just like...
Hey, kid- aren't you sick at this point of getting your news from the television? How annoying are those shows that come on after- the spelling one, and that smartypants blue thing? Why don't you digest this fakeness on my blog, and we can rage against reality together and call the truth fake, and repeat the same lies together...
Then you distill those groups down... allowing them to self-select, and self-victimize... a BLM group becomes the Black Fist of Houston and the deepest circle is being trained to flippity-dooh-dahh out of handcuffs (fake) and the next most radical layer is being told "Film everything! Don't let any angle go undocumented for any minute!"
...and so you get your viral vid of an American getting shot by a cop at a protest. Minus one American and plus societal destabilization points added to the board. It's how they get their puppet candidates in office too.
How do I know that you guys have a specific traumatic event in your lives that made you unplug from the mainstream and pursue a path of radicalism, and also tense relationships with your families, who still live in the real world?
That's why this place is SO DAMN DELISH as well- I don't even need to ask these personal-interst research questions, because they are offered willingly by the membership.
All about free speech my self, but also have no desire to read their bullshit
Here is the real, and actual truth- Russia will NEVER derive any benefit from those acres of pounded mud, but will continue to pay a HEAVY price- every single day.
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