It was a Specter,( 1:205 breech, .675 muzzle 18") barreled action. Weight and cost are unknown as I can't get my grubby mitts on it yet
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Thank you for the information Fret !
Out of curiosity what is advantage of single shot for those types of shooting w/ .22 lr?
In theory the single action rifles are more rigid resulting in higher accuracy. In some games a single shot is required, or have to single load your rifle. Many of the single shot rifles are built to be drop fed like that also. I thought there was talk about a single shot action, or single shot sled for the actions.
Here’s a little something to get things going again.
Technically the way Mike designed the V-22 action and magazine, the bolt captures the round out of the magazine and feeds it into the chamber as cleanly as a single shot design. At least that's my understanding.
Hey Quickdraw, valid observation but lots of shooting happening for lots of folks. The Vudoo crew just returned from the ELR event in MT and seeing lots of rimfire shooting activity across the country. Orders still rolling strong, brought another machine online, meeting delivery schedules and working on new stuff everyday. No rest for the weary my friend....
MB
Yessir, the single shot requests have ramped up. I did the receiver design at the same time the repeater receiver was done, just working on a few small parts. There's also an option to single feed the current repeater, but none of these components are in production yet.
MB
For single shot you are better of with more advanced Holeshot arms (Stiller) 2500x
https://www.killoughshootingsports.com/index.php/actions/2500x-by-spf-single-shot-22lr-action.html
https://www.killoughshootingsports.com/index.php/actions/2500x-by-spf-single-shot-22lr-action.html
WOW, Mr.BR, that's a pretty desperate post. I'm quite certain you're free to start your own thread instead of bringing negativity and rhetoric into this one.
Thanks,
MB
Single shot blank/sled for current repeater would be great, next prone match is in Oct so you have plenty of time to get those designed and manufactured
and put me down for 1.
The lack of posts on the V-22's is a GOOOD THING!!!! I think it means the there are no problems with these fine guns.
Now if my shooting buddy will get done with is V-22 build I'm really interested in seeing how his performs. I have fondled is barreled action and it was a piece of metal art!
As to the single shot V-22, I don;'t see that as a great marketing move as there are number of actions out that are already single shots. But the adapter to allow single loading sounds like a great idea for those that have or want a V-22 with that capability.
Now if my shooting buddy will get done with is V-22 build I'm really interested in seeing how his performs. I have fondled is barreled action and it was a piece of metal art!
As to the single shot V-22, I don;'t see that as a great marketing move as there are number of actions out that are already single shots. But the adapter to allow single loading sounds like a great idea for those that have or want a V-22 with that capability.
Thanks for the reply
Anyone else running a suppressor on their Vudoo? I sent in my paperwork for a Silencerco Sparrow in January when I ordered the rifle and it just came back last week.
Eley Match has always shot well for me, but I've been having trouble getting good groups with the new lot. Last evening I shot a couple groups at 100 yards with and without the suppressor. I'm pleased I found the cause of my loss of precision, but disappointed the suppressor is the cause.
Eley Match has always shot well for me, but I've been having trouble getting good groups with the new lot. Last evening I shot a couple groups at 100 yards with and without the suppressor. I'm pleased I found the cause of my loss of precision, but disappointed the suppressor is the cause.
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I have been planning on finishing one of my form 1 cans or getting a TBAC takedown for mine. That is unfortunate to see that much change with the can. What barrel profile do you have? Did you check alignment before shooting?
Dang, that's not encouraging! I ordered an Amtac Fireant, mainly because the Vudoo guys recommended it. It's taken a month to get it shipped to my dealer, and they still don't have it, so I have no idea when I'll see it.
I hope you get it sorted out 4sfed!
You might try some different ammo just to see if the same thing happens or if it's only related to that ammo. I hope to have my vudoo ship this week, so I can't really comment on it specifically yet, but I dont see group size change with or without a can on my Anschutz 64 MPR. Using Lapua Center X and SK Match Rifle / Wolf Extra and a Sico Spectre II. Groups typically average in the .3-.4" range at 50 yd.
I am using several different cans (TBAC, Jet, SiCo x 2, TAC-52) on my Vudoo and Elrod 40Xs. There is a chance in POI, but no decrease in accuracy.
I was testing ammo (Lapua Center-X, Midas+, Tenex and a new lot of Eley Match) with the suppressor when I discovered this. All were grouping in the .8 range at 100 yards. My first lot of Eley did much better ... even though Tenex is supposed to be a higher quality version of Eley Match. After removing the suppressor it shot a .35 group at 100 yards. Looks like this lot of Eley is as good as the first ... and I'll be shooting the match this weekend without the Sparrow.
I ran out of daylight before I could do any "with/without" testing with the Lapua ammo, but that's on the agenda. I also have a friend with another suppressor that will be part of the testing.
Anyone got ahold of the 22” bartlein mtu barrels yet?
4 more weeks and I will have my 22"
.......damnit, you don’t count.
Are they doing a 22" ace mtu as well?
Last time i spoke with paul he mentioned besides bartlein their other choice of barrel only comes with 20" max.
If paul can do 22-24" none threaded ( hawaii cant use suppressor anyway) i would do another v22
Hint hint paul and cole at vudoo
?I am doing the 22" MTU in the bartlein barrel
More testing with a suppressor ... 100 yards from a bench with bipod and rear bag.
I've now tried SK, Center-X, Midas+, Eley Match and Tenex. The pattern is always the same ... precision is always better without a suppressor.
One of the lower targets was shot with the Sparrow and the other with a borrowed suppressor. The patterns are different, but precision was not improved.
I sent a note to Vudoo with my results this afternoon. I think it's likely barrel harmonics, but we'll see what Paul has to say.
I've now tried SK, Center-X, Midas+, Eley Match and Tenex. The pattern is always the same ... precision is always better without a suppressor.
One of the lower targets was shot with the Sparrow and the other with a borrowed suppressor. The patterns are different, but precision was not improved.
I sent a note to Vudoo with my results this afternoon. I think it's likely barrel harmonics, but we'll see what Paul has to say.
All the groups I posted previously were shot with a suppressor (AAC Element 2) from 50 yards. Had several groups that were .2 moa (or less). I'll try to stretch out to 100 and see what the comparable group size is to yours if that helps.
Harmonics will make a difference but that's pretty crazy. What barrel and length do you have?
A Sparrow hanging off of an MTU contour is like a nat on a buffalo. Something is happening with the can.
Mine Vudoo with a can does very similar. Can is a Liberty Kodiak.
Just a crazy thought guys, but try this:
Weigh your cans and then take that same amount of weight and attach it to the muzzle. See what happens with the groups. Or you can try tuning the can by adding small amount of weight incrementally, or just use a little weight and move it along the length of the can and see what happens. It will tell you if it is barrel harmonics or something with how the bullet is flying through your can. Also you may want to make sure the can is super clean and give it a try. All easy things to test...
Weigh your cans and then take that same amount of weight and attach it to the muzzle. See what happens with the groups. Or you can try tuning the can by adding small amount of weight incrementally, or just use a little weight and move it along the length of the can and see what happens. It will tell you if it is barrel harmonics or something with how the bullet is flying through your can. Also you may want to make sure the can is super clean and give it a try. All easy things to test...
I've disassembled the can, inspected and cleaned it twice in 300 rounds. There's no evidence of a baffle strike. The latest tests were made with a clean can.
I like this idea. I know that small changes in the adjustment of a barrel tuner can make big changes in group sizes. The weight of the Sparrow is a lot more than a tuner.
I like this idea. I know that small changes in the adjustment of a barrel tuner can make big changes in group sizes. The weight of the Sparrow is a lot more than a tuner.
Good to know I'm not alone. What barrel do you have?
I'm wondering if adding some additional weight to the can, or one of the barrel dampers could work this out. I'm wondering if the harmonics issue is more in the can than the barrel. really a MTU, Kirku, Palma contour on a 22 should have very limited movement and subsequent harmonics. Since many of the 22 cans are very light and possibly not built to the tolerances and standards of CF cans the affect could be greater when we're still expecting one ragged hole.
Another line of thought is what is the ammo speed with and without? Is the bullet in the transonic range while going through the suppressor? I should have my can done this weekend and will try it out.
Another line of thought is what is the ammo speed with and without? Is the bullet in the transonic range while going through the suppressor? I should have my can done this weekend and will try it out.
The bullet is subsonic exiting the muzzle.
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