By the way, where is this 6.5 centimeter round? Hook me up with that shit.[/QUOTE]
Kinda funny, I guess they never realized cm stands for "C"reed"M"oor.
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Kinda funny, I guess they never realized cm stands for "C"reed"M"oor.
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but really we would like the 2 1/2 incher
I think I saw somewhere Rex is in North Dakota or South, somewhere around there.
You guys would not believe the amount of video I trash because I review it and do something I consider wrong, or at the very least not a good practice. Hell, there are days when I am over tired or something close and will close my left eye ( I am actually Left Eye Dominant) and trash the video because I don't think it displays good form. I even see me hold my breath, heck it might be for 2 seconds and I will delete the video because it is not good practice. To put a 1/2 assed video out is just not my style.
It is what it is, he has a great following and did well with properly keywording the series. But make no mistake, there are blatant errors and not just diverging technique stuff. Rifles Only invented the Floating Thumb technique of trigger control. In the original context of the day, it was not meant as an actual field technique but people have adopted it as one. That is a debate, do you float the thumb or not, the blatant errors I am talking about are not that grey. A beginner should seek out the best information and not the subjective stuff, or stuff that has been down right debunked. The biggest thing is the old manuals mixed scoped rifle instruction with iron sight shooting. As well they mixed sling shooting with bipods, so you stuff that is just not intended for how we actually shoot today. The old military manuals were a mix of techniques that never explained the difference between the two. Heck these manuals still get humidity wrong and give you the 1" rules of thumb without any context.
You guys would not believe the amount of video I trash because I review it and do something I consider wrong, or at the very least not a good practice. Hell, there are days when I am over tired or something close and will close my left eye ( I am actually Left Eye Dominant) and trash the video because I don't think it displays good form. I even see me hold my breath, heck it might be for 2 seconds and I will delete the video because it is not good practice. To put a 1/2 assed video out is just not my style.
It is what it is, he has a great following and did well with properly keywording the series. But make no mistake, there are blatant errors and not just diverging technique stuff. Rifles Only invented the Floating Thumb technique of trigger control. In the original context of the day, it was not meant as an actual field technique but people have adopted it as one. That is a debate, do you float the thumb or not, the blatant errors I am talking about are not that grey. A beginner should seek out the best information and not the subjective stuff, or stuff that has been down right debunked. The biggest thing is the old manuals mixed scoped rifle instruction with iron sight shooting. As well they mixed sling shooting with bipods, so you stuff that is just not intended for how we actually shoot today. The old military manuals were a mix of techniques that never explained the difference between the two. Heck these manuals still get humidity wrong and give you the 1" rules of thumb without any context.
Ah, of course. That's where I heard it. The "Fargo" movie accent. "Alrighty then. You betcha!"
So if we're done on Rex, can we start on James Yeager?
dont even fucking get me started on Yeager......i swear, if he were around in the 70s, hed be the type of guy to own a karate studio.
Lowlight is right on the money here. Scout ended badly but was a great idea to get the shooting sports more mainstream and we should all be able to appreciate that. Anytime I can drag somebody along that doesn't shoot, I try to make it a great experience so that at least they have a positive outlook towards shooting - and our 2nd Amendment rights. More gun owners = more gun voters in my mind.
With more people shooting we will have more opinions and "experts".
Everybody is 7 foot tall and tough as hell from the safety of the keyboard! To hell with the haters, tell them to pound sand and those of us that are here to learn are just grateful that there is such a site as SH where we can learn from guys like Frank. To those who are helping and sharing I sincerely say THANK YOU!
You go on some huge rant HERE about what ignorant people are supposedly saying somewhere else like your FB page? Why not go on rant where the problem is? Kind of hard to fix a problem that exists at one point, when you are talking about it at another.
Sorry, but there is no shortage of ignorant $#!@ being posted here on a daily basis. Which caliber, which scope, which rifle, same freaking questions posted here on a continual basis. Per your own comments, "brand x is better than brand y", no "brand y is better than brand x". And last but not least, nothing like some of the wonderful LE bashing topics that frequently go on here for pages with no one being banned. If I really need to site examples, it would not be hard to find plenty of them.
Shooting my be a sport, but there is nothing sporting about being a Sniper. If you want to focus on discussing "mainstream shooting topics" then you might want to rename the website. Of course if that is also the case, then that would pretty much nullify you as a subject matter expert, because last time I checked you were the master of sniping, not general sports shooting like 3 Gun.
Huge problem, which you eluded to, is people who shoot a local or PRS match, but have never served a day as a LE or MIL sniper, and are all of a sudden qualified to comment on what Snipers should be doing. There have been some epic topics here on what platform or caliber actual snipers should be using with a ton of comments from people who have never actually served as a sniper.
Until there is some form of qualification and separation here, there will be problems here, because if you have not been there and done that, then you are not really qualified to comment on it.
I get talking about things like the PRS matches here, but once again, the people who should be commenting/discussing topics like that, should be qualified to do so.
Going back to the big picture issue that you brought up, learning should occur first with your eyes & ears. Until you have covered the basics/fundamentals, your mouth (or fingers on a key board) should not come into play. Unfortunately too many people don't get that concept, they will spend little to no time reading, and will immediately jump on the keyboard.
Once again, I am about trying to raise the level of quality here, I could honestly care less about how many members are posting. “I’d rather go down the river with seven studs than with a hundred $!@#heads” – Colonel Charlie Beckwith. I would rather have a handful of qualified people posting quality material here, than having countless posts of worthless BS by a large number of people.
Just my 2 cents, which as the HMFIC you can obviously disregard.
Has anyone asked Rex about any of this?
When dealing with Facebook or Youtube, one should make the assumption that everyone that comments is emotionally immature and intellectually retarded unless they are known or their words prove otherwise.
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LR, the only problem with your post is you are wanting an elite message board. The site is gear oriented and civilians buy most of that shit. You should not be surprised that the fucked up civilian world is predominantly represented. It is what it is by design. The Centerions are actually the minority. If you want COIN then that is fine but with that you have to include the civilian that is interested in your expertise. Your profession benefits no different than Mrs. Culpeper benefits when I watch soft porn on Skinamax.
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Well, there is the double edged sword. Right? The moron that insulted lowlight was probably practicing this philosophy.
Just link these jokers to Spin-D.
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Ehhhh....problem with that is not knowing who is doing the talking and what their bona fides are, and that's on the dumbass commenter..
The interwebs are FULL of nutnfancy types, but there are plenty of Lowlights out there that actually know WTF they speak of and/or at least don't misrepresent their qualifications other than being an 'internet personality' that likes guns (and there is nothing wrong with that - those videos can still be entertaining and informative but I certainly wouldn't take them as gospel).
This site was never about promoting just "Sniping" and nothing in the description of this site eludes to be so niche it is all military based. The Military learns more from the civilian side of shooting than the military side. Teaching marksmanship in the military is full of errors. I just happen to have a military background which most people running shooting sites like this one lacked at the time. You never saw a series of mine on YouTube called "Sniper 101" yet I don't see you asking WTF over that... especially coming from a guy that wasn't a sniper.
Your Opinion has been noted, and will be filed in the appropriate recycling bin.
Haha haha haha haha!!! Appropriate response Frank.
I'll just leave this here...
I have seen an enormous uptick in the interweb fuckery since the inception of the RPR (and Stealth and Bergara).
Ruger's rifle did EXACTLY what it was intended to do; introduce more people to our sport/culture. Unfortunately, it also brought a huge uptick in internet superstars.
If you want a good giggle, join the Ruger Precision Rifle page on Facebook. Everything you ever want to know about what you've been doing wrong for years and how Athlon is the bestest you'll ever see.
~ Rico
I have seen an enormous uptick in the interweb fuckery since the inception of the RPR (and Stealth and Bergara).
Ruger's rifle did EXACTLY what it was intended to do; introduce more people to our sport/culture. Unfortunately, it also brought a huge uptick in internet superstars.
If you want a good giggle, join the Ruger Precision Rifle page on Facebook. Everything you ever want to know about what you've been doing wrong for years and how Athlon is the bestest you'll ever see.
~ Rico
break the wrist and walk away...
Keep in mind that we're relatively a VERY small subset of gun enthusiasts on the internet. WE know who Lowlight is, however if you're not on this forum or in "the industry" you may very well not have any idea of his creds and qualifications.
If you didn't know GAP rifles, which lets face it, most shooters in America don't, then a video from George Gardner doesn't mean anything to you on the interwebs. Does that in any way mean that he isn't extraordinarily qualified? Of course not, but with the saturation of gurus online, how the fuck is the average shooter supposed to decipher the real deals from the mall ninjas? A friend of mine comes to me at least once a week to tell me that he saw a review of "x" rifle on YouTube and "the guy says it's a tack driver, so that may be my next purchase". I've given up.
Shit, I got off track. Real simple: of course LL is an authority in this discipline, but how do the average guys searching the web for knowledge know that?
If you didn't know GAP rifles, which lets face it, most shooters in America don't, then a video from George Gardner doesn't mean anything to you on the interwebs. Does that in any way mean that he isn't extraordinarily qualified? Of course not, but with the saturation of gurus online, how the fuck is the average shooter supposed to decipher the real deals from the mall ninjas? A friend of mine comes to me at least once a week to tell me that he saw a review of "x" rifle on YouTube and "the guy says it's a tack driver, so that may be my next purchase". I've given up.
Shit, I got off track. Real simple: of course LL is an authority in this discipline, but how do the average guys searching the web for knowledge know that?
If I am researching and am doubting someone's credentials... If I can use google to find the subject I want to research, I can use google to investigate their credentials. Ex: Frank's is not hard to find. It's the researcher's job to know their source, not the source's job to tell each researcher, one by one, who they are. I get what you are saying, but nothing is owed to the researcher by the source, especially if the researcher doubts their source. They can move along to the next source, and, besides guidance and training others being Frank's and others livelihood, he shouldn't give a shit if someone doesn't believe what he has to say because he is fully confident in himself.
Great point. Thanks for the perspective.
The solution is obvious. Frank needs acolytes!
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Absolutely disgusting. They're making a mockery outta a wonderful 'movement'. Not to mention being outta sync, off chord, and to top it off they've all seemed to have forgotten the words to the song............
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Isn't that what this place is for?
And that video brought back memories of a full day in Bali with a Hare Krishna event going on up the beach. Even the Balinese were ready to perforate their own ear drums. Im all for embracing the local culture, but for the love of Brahma, Shiva, and Vishnu enough can be enough.
Isn't that what this place is for?
And that video brought back memories of a full day in Bali with a Hare Krishna event going on up the beach. Even the Balinese were ready to perforate their own ear drums. Im all for embracing the local culture, but for the love of Brahma, Shiva, and Vishnu enough can be enough.
Sat Nam
I googled that and still not sure I'm making the full connection. Is that the name of that festival I had to endure?
In this case, it might also be a shrouded reference to Sikhi.
http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Satnam
Lets create a website called Snipers Hide, that is NOT really focused on Sniping. Brilliant!!!
MIL & CIV, your preaching to the Choir,
Our Cadre for our Sniper School includes MIL, LE, and Civ Instructors. Why, because they all bring something to the table. You ready for this, we actually have a Meteorologist go over a block of instruction on reading weather patterns, followed by a civilian that coaches International Level Shooting Teams who covers a block on reading wind. Why, because they know their $#!@ way better than anyone else, and they add value to the class that only they can bring. Our school is also open to both MIL & LE Snipers, because once again each group can learn something from the other. We have no pretense as to who should participate, if they can bring true value to the process, they are welcome.
Personally, I have been to as many CIV training programs as I have been to MIL training programs. I have participated in MIL & LE based competitions, as well as shooting in CIV/NRA based competitions.
If you are any type of "Precision Long Range Shooter" and you think that one group (MIL, LE, or CIV) has all of the answers, then you are an ignorant SOB.
I am not going to comment on the Rex video series because that really has nothing to do with the original topic.
The original topic was you bitching about the ignorant people who post useless $#!@ "somewhere" and challenge your expertise, to which I gave an honest response.
As long as any swinging dick can post $#!@, you are going to have a mass collection of $#!@. If you want a quality collection of material on "Precision Long Range Shooting", then limit the people who can post to those who actually know what the hell they are talking about. Those people can be MIL or LE Snipers, Civ Competitive Shooters, and other "Subject Matter Experts". If you want to be able to post, then you should be able to show what credentials you have to be granted that privilege.
Your place, your rules, which currently means $#!@ IN = $#!@ OUT! Enjoy It!!!
beer me
Thanks, during my google I found reference to a discipline of yoga and to Sikhism, but nothing pertaining to a never ending Hare Krishna mantra.
I (and others) want a Forum where we don't have to wade through countless pages of useless $#!@. Which believe or not, was what Frank was also bitching about!
I don't give a $#!@ who posts, MIL, LE, CIV, as long as they bring true value to the Forum. How do you know if they are going to bring value, you vet them before you allow them to post. What credentials do you need, anything that shows that you can contribute value.
Per my earlier post, I get that "numbers equals dollars", but I also get that quantity doesn't equal quality.
I didn't start a topic about the quality of people posting, or the quality of the material they posted, Frank did.
But when I called a Spade a Spade, some people can handle the reality of that, others can't.
I understand what LRShooter is wanting/trying to get. I don't think with a free, open membership site that that is achievable however. We have to simply police ourselves and make sure something stupid that is posted that can get someone in trouble, hurt or worse is quickly taken care of. But that's the internet and that's just the way it is.
People here generally figure out real quick as to who knows what, who's a fucking tool and no matter what is said, use your own judgement and research things on your own. Frank also does a good job of finding total bullshit and correcting it so that people don't end up believing the shitpost and doing something stupid.
I have to be honest though; some of the dumbest shit on earth that I've ever been told or witnessed first hand is while in the military from people in the military. So being a .mil only site for .mil 'snipers' also doesn't guarantee anything except a pissing contest.
So I'm not against LRShooter at all, but I do have to ask because of the way your posts are worded; are you that guy that gnashes his teeth and loses his mind when non .mil people want to discuss things like loophole shooting, SUT, true platform capabilities and things of that nature because you somehow think these are vital .mil only things and how dare anyone expose this on the internet?
The reason you're bringing this all up on this site is simple - there's nowhere else to go. What are you going to do, head over to 24 hour campfire? AR15 precision board? M4C where you better fill out your profile!? Nope. This is it; make the best of it.
People here generally figure out real quick as to who knows what, who's a fucking tool and no matter what is said, use your own judgement and research things on your own. Frank also does a good job of finding total bullshit and correcting it so that people don't end up believing the shitpost and doing something stupid.
I have to be honest though; some of the dumbest shit on earth that I've ever been told or witnessed first hand is while in the military from people in the military. So being a .mil only site for .mil 'snipers' also doesn't guarantee anything except a pissing contest.
So I'm not against LRShooter at all, but I do have to ask because of the way your posts are worded; are you that guy that gnashes his teeth and loses his mind when non .mil people want to discuss things like loophole shooting, SUT, true platform capabilities and things of that nature because you somehow think these are vital .mil only things and how dare anyone expose this on the internet?
The reason you're bringing this all up on this site is simple - there's nowhere else to go. What are you going to do, head over to 24 hour campfire? AR15 precision board? M4C where you better fill out your profile!? Nope. This is it; make the best of it.
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Have you tried ar15.com?........i mean, everyone over there is apparently a former special forces operator.......just ask them.
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LR, I have been down this road with with lowlight way before you. You need to be responding directly to lowlight and not indirectly through me. Say what you need to say and take your thirty days to have some time to think about it. Be a man about it. We all have before you. You can't be first but you can be next. But I will give you a pointer. Say what you need to say but don't hammer fuck his work. He will burn that bridge.
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Lowlight,
Keep in mind: If idiots could fly, they would block out the sun.
I gave up trying to correct idiots because it would take too much time to try and educate them. It would also be similar to trying to teach pigs to sing....just wastes my time, and annoys the pig.
Keep in mind: If idiots could fly, they would block out the sun.
I gave up trying to correct idiots because it would take too much time to try and educate them. It would also be similar to trying to teach pigs to sing....just wastes my time, and annoys the pig.
LR clearly has a reading problem
This was not about "Here" I said that more than once. This is about places like YouTube and Facebook, and the Rex thing as he put is actually part of the original comment as his minions are a big part of the people questioning that they see. They compared everything to "Sniper 101" because most don't know better.
The history of this board is clear, it's been around since 2000. The 2 years at Scout vs the 15 years on it's own hardly define it. If you choose to define me or this place based on Scout you're fucked up.
I think LR has a lot of stupid points based on ignorance of what this place is, or how this place has operated in the past. Much revisionist history in his BS.
The rant was about other places online not here, because the information posted here and then shared on other platforms don't get the same reactions.
This was not about "Here" I said that more than once. This is about places like YouTube and Facebook, and the Rex thing as he put is actually part of the original comment as his minions are a big part of the people questioning that they see. They compared everything to "Sniper 101" because most don't know better.
The history of this board is clear, it's been around since 2000. The 2 years at Scout vs the 15 years on it's own hardly define it. If you choose to define me or this place based on Scout you're fucked up.
I think LR has a lot of stupid points based on ignorance of what this place is, or how this place has operated in the past. Much revisionist history in his BS.
The rant was about other places online not here, because the information posted here and then shared on other platforms don't get the same reactions.
You put that a lot kinder than needed or warranted.
You made yourself clear from the beginning. To say more it would sound like I'm enjoying some leg time so I'll leave it at.
Now you boys enjoy your Sunday.
You don't sound very happy here.
Perhaps you should put up your own money, set up your own website, and run it the the way you think a website should be run?
I have spent the last 30+ years of my life in some shape or form of precision rifle shooting, not learning computer and website technology, which would mean my chances of doing that successfully would be slim to none. No Thanks!
Things can improve with feedback and suggestions, that is if people are willing to listen. Anyone who has achieved the greatest success in whatever they do, achieved that success at some point due to their willing to receive and act on critical feedback.
Of course not everyone measures "success" the same way!
Just curious if you actually read my previous post?
Per that post, I don't judge anyone or anything based solely on MIL, LE, or CIV. It is either legit, or it is not.
As far as options go, I am trying to make the best of this by getting a change made that would ultimately improve the overall QUALITY of the site.
Once again, there is a reason why this site operates the way it does, which serves a given purpose, which ultimately comes with consequences.
I spoke my peace, I made the effort, unlike many others who are thinking the exact thing, but for many reasons will not say it. So be it!
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Been there and done that offline and online long ago, whichever ever one of us did it first, who knows?
I am responding openly here because I would hope that by doing so, others may also join in if they agree.
I respect Frank very much, however that doesn't mean that I can't disagree with him, in public or private.
If Frank wants to ignore me, ban me, so be it, it is his show and he can obviously run it as he sees fit.
At this point in my life which is past the half century mark, I am not side stepping $#!@, because life is to short, and I am not worried about having a shortage of friends when I reach the end of life's journey. I am not going to repeatedly charge windmills, but I am also not afraid of challenging status quo.
Frank, you can blame my reading comprehension, and I will blame your logic and reasoning!
Sorry, but coming here to bitch about something which is occurring somewhere else that you have ZERO control over makes ZERO sense to me. On the other hand, doing something about the things that you have complete control over would make a hell of a lot of sense to me!
I am not defining this place on any one time frame, but based on my many years of being here.
If you are judging my time here by my current user name, you would be mistaken. That is actually my second user name. My first user name was established over 10 years ago, however I was forced to delete it and leave the site because my employer found out that I was posting on the site, and ordered me to "cease & desist" because of some "unacceptable things" that had been posted on the site by some completely ignorant assholes (yes, I got drug into that ignorant $#!@). That material was ultimately censored/removed, but from where I was sitting, it was too late and the damage was done. After a couple years off the site, and moving to a new employer, I came back in the hopes that things would have improved. Of course a big chunk of that new time included the "debacle" that was the change to and back from Scout.
Don't get me wrong, is there value here, ABSOLUTELY. However is it frequently outweighed and buried by useless topics, IMHO YES!
I just went through the last 50 topics posted, breakdown as follows:
30 Topics - WTB/WTS
06 Topics - Goofy Crap/Pit or Maggie's
06 Topics - What should I buy?
04 Topics - Misc/Random
04 Topics - Legit Tech Topic or Question
Looking at those numbers, 4-8 topics out of 50 had some form of substance to them. Yes that is a small sample, and yes those numbers may change to some degree, but from what I routinely see the really substantive topics are probably around 10%-15% of what is being posted. Yes, I also acknowledge the value of the WTB/WTS topics, but from the standpoint that they benefit a limited group.
Is the amount of substantive material being posting on this site going to change, not IMHO, because the people who could really contribute some serious material on this site, are not going to come anywhere near it in its current "wild west state".
At some point IMHO, quality should outweigh quantity. I said my peace, so be it!
Sorry, but coming here to bitch about something which is occurring somewhere else that you have ZERO control over makes ZERO sense to me. On the other hand, doing something about the things that you have complete control over would make a hell of a lot of sense to me!
I am not defining this place on any one time frame, but based on my many years of being here.
If you are judging my time here by my current user name, you would be mistaken. That is actually my second user name. My first user name was established over 10 years ago, however I was forced to delete it and leave the site because my employer found out that I was posting on the site, and ordered me to "cease & desist" because of some "unacceptable things" that had been posted on the site by some completely ignorant assholes (yes, I got drug into that ignorant $#!@). That material was ultimately censored/removed, but from where I was sitting, it was too late and the damage was done. After a couple years off the site, and moving to a new employer, I came back in the hopes that things would have improved. Of course a big chunk of that new time included the "debacle" that was the change to and back from Scout.
Don't get me wrong, is there value here, ABSOLUTELY. However is it frequently outweighed and buried by useless topics, IMHO YES!
I just went through the last 50 topics posted, breakdown as follows:
30 Topics - WTB/WTS
06 Topics - Goofy Crap/Pit or Maggie's
06 Topics - What should I buy?
04 Topics - Misc/Random
04 Topics - Legit Tech Topic or Question
Looking at those numbers, 4-8 topics out of 50 had some form of substance to them. Yes that is a small sample, and yes those numbers may change to some degree, but from what I routinely see the really substantive topics are probably around 10%-15% of what is being posted. Yes, I also acknowledge the value of the WTB/WTS topics, but from the standpoint that they benefit a limited group.
Is the amount of substantive material being posting on this site going to change, not IMHO, because the people who could really contribute some serious material on this site, are not going to come anywhere near it in its current "wild west state".
At some point IMHO, quality should outweigh quantity. I said my peace, so be it!
Probably reflects life in general with only a smaller portion of any days events really having any relevance. Of that small portion of relevance the morning constitutional is a big part.
Let me start off by saying I'm not LE/MIL so most will skip over my next comments.
Why the hate for savage Frank? i know they arent the best but geez. haha.
on a serious note, I have made your new response to your problem to fit the new crowds we are facing as a nation.
"Thank you for contacting me via your "Safe Place" where you are the best shot the world has ever known. Your comments are heard and now the world is dumber for having them on the internet."
I will refer to this picture about feelings.
The problem with the world, not just facebook and everywhere else, is Truth is mean and too many people cant handle it so we have to sugar coat everything or make a safe place. I would seriously lose a lot of respect for you if you became a people-pleaser instead of giving the truth and calling out people when they are wrong. Yes i am aware that you will lose zero sleep over this peasant.
You come out to the people of this forum to ask questions on things that you dont know and use the people you have gathered to help spread the knowledge. I saw that with the video on the flat line 122 gr 6.5 bullet. then you show us the results you got. Be you and if "they think" you are "too mean" then that is "their" problem. Keep doing what you are doing and the fuck the rest of the world that doesnt like it.
Why the hate for savage Frank? i know they arent the best but geez. haha.
on a serious note, I have made your new response to your problem to fit the new crowds we are facing as a nation.
"Thank you for contacting me via your "Safe Place" where you are the best shot the world has ever known. Your comments are heard and now the world is dumber for having them on the internet."
I will refer to this picture about feelings.
The problem with the world, not just facebook and everywhere else, is Truth is mean and too many people cant handle it so we have to sugar coat everything or make a safe place. I would seriously lose a lot of respect for you if you became a people-pleaser instead of giving the truth and calling out people when they are wrong. Yes i am aware that you will lose zero sleep over this peasant.
You come out to the people of this forum to ask questions on things that you dont know and use the people you have gathered to help spread the knowledge. I saw that with the video on the flat line 122 gr 6.5 bullet. then you show us the results you got. Be you and if "they think" you are "too mean" then that is "their" problem. Keep doing what you are doing and the fuck the rest of the world that doesnt like it.
if you kids dont knock it off i am going to drive this van right off the bridge and kill us all...
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Frank, you were right long before they were wrong. Stay the course.
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Frank, you were right long before they were wrong. Stay the course.
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