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Optics M2010 Leupold xm2010

Leupold 6.5x20x50 MkIv LRT. 34mm tube. H58. Comes with ard. This is A Contract scope for the M2010 has correct Mil Contract 2010 Turret. Scope had krylon on it previously. $1800 shipped. Cash app or Apple Pay as payment.

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Night Vision Bench clean out

Well I have a few things I’m looking get rid of.

Wilcox bridge mount Dovetail. In great condition. SOLD

Wilcox AN/PVS 14 NVG interface show never used. $175

Wilcox dovetail shoe never used $65
Wilcox dovetail shoe for flir never used $65

iRay dovetail shoe $65

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  • Poll
Rifle Scopes Crossover/NRL Hunter optic options

Some options I looked at

  • Burris XTR3i 3.3-18

    Votes: 7 41.2%
  • Mk5 3.6-18 PR1 MIL

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • (Used) ATACR 4-16x42 Mil-C

    Votes: 7 41.2%
  • Other (list in comments)

    Votes: 1 5.9%

I’m trying to find a good optic for a NRL Hunter build that will be pulling double (triple?) duty as a hunting rifle and for other precision rifle comps. 22” 6.5 Creed

Some factors I prefer
-~3x low end magnification
-~15-18x on the high end
-FFP
-adjustable parallax
-locking mil turrets (locking is nice to have but not need to have) that aren’t mushy
-mil crosshair w/ .2 mil hashes (don’t need a tree reticle)
-good FOV and minimal distortion in the glass
-30oz maximum (ideally less)

Budget is ~2k

Thanks!

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Rifle Scopes Which Crossover Scope would you choose?

Which crossover scopes would you choose?

  • 3-15x50

    Votes: 46 19.4%
  • 3-20x50

    Votes: 40 16.9%
  • 4-20x50

    Votes: 61 25.7%
  • 4.5-22x50

    Votes: 15 6.3%
  • 3-18x56

    Votes: 40 16.9%
  • 3.5-18x50

    Votes: 32 13.5%
  • 4-16x42/50

    Votes: 20 8.4%
  • 2.5-20x50

    Votes: 42 17.7%
  • 3-24x52

    Votes: 26 11.0%
  • Other (explain what/why)

    Votes: 14 5.9%

This is a poll to help identify what might be some of the most sought after crossover style scopes, but let's define what type of crossover scope I'm trying to address here. Let's say you'd like a good scope for hunting big game but also like to go shoot steel to 1000 yards give or take using the same rifle. What type of scope would you be looking for (whether existing or something that hasn't hit the market yet). Let's use the following as some criteria in no particular order:
  • A scope that can be at home on a hunting rifle as well as a long range rifle (this is not a dedicated competition scope)
  • Magnification no greater than 4.5x at the bottom end (nothing wrong with putting a 5-25 or higher optic on your hunting rig but it really limits the functionality for many)
  • Magnification of 15x or higher at top end
  • FFP (sorry, SFP has very limited use for dynamic shooting environments and is not viable in this category)
  • Decent FOV (scopes with wide field of view definitely have an advantage here, but should have minimal edge distortion)
  • A lighter scope is preferred (shouldn't be over 35oz and preferably under 30oz)
  • Have a reticle that works at bottom mag as well as top mag (this is where many FFP scopes today fail)
  • Illumination that is daylight bright (can be seen under bright sunlight conditions)
  • Exposed elevation turret (you have to be able to dial for distance)
  • Capped or locking windage turret
  • Objective no smaller than 42mm but still function excellent in low light
  • Be forgiving with eyebox
  • Be forgiving with DOF
  • Be forgiving with parallax
  • Have really good IQ with well defined contrast and clarity (doesn't have to be alpha class but not Chinese either)
I wanted to throw in a few other options in the poll but I was limited on how many options to provide, so pick the closest to what you would choose.

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Something else I'd like to know, in what order would you rank the following criteria and how much it plays a role in your choice for the above crossover scope:
  • Large magnification range (examples would be the 8x scopes like March and NF NX8)
  • Short magnification range (this would be your traditional 4x and 5x scopes)
  • Mid magnification range (something around 6x is where you'd like to be)
  • Weight under 35oz
  • Weight under 30oz
  • Weight under 25oz
  • Objective size 56mm (the bigger the better)
  • Objective size 50mm (middle of the road is best of both worlds)
  • Objective size 42/44mm (smaller objective is worth the trade off to reduce weight and/or streamline the scope)
  • Brightest image possible (shooting at dawn/dusk is crucial for you)
  • Shorter scope length (this rig is also used for night hunting with NV/Thermal clip-on)
  • Forgiving Eyebox
  • Forgiving DOF
  • Forgiving Parallax
  • Exposed elevation turret
  • Capped windage turret
  • Locking turrets
  • Well designed reticle that works at lowest mag and highest mag
  • Tree reticle (nice not to have to dial in certain situations)
  • Non-tree reticle (keep it clean)
  • Daylight bright illumination
  • Wide FOV
  • IQ, contrast and clarity (what many of us refer to as "pop")
  • Control of CA (the less chromatic aberration the better)
  • I'm sure I'm forgetting something so feel free to add other important factors for you
Given the above ranking (in your order) what would be the "ideal" crossover scope for you if it doesn't already exist today?

Spreadsheet of scopes that meet the following criteria:
  • FFP Hash Reticle
  • 4.5x or less at bottom magnification
  • 15x or more at top magnification
  • Weigh 30 ounces or less (preferably under 28oz)
  • Length less than 14 inches (preferably under 13.5")
  • Not manufactured in China (if you need to ask you haven't been paying attention)
I have ordered these by bottom magnification at far left and increasing up to 4.5x on far right
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Can't zero scope. Is it defective or am I? NX8

My rifle shoots about 6 feet high at 100M. It can't adjust elevation any lower.
I thought there might be something mis adjusted in the zero stop, so I loosened it up all the way and cranked it as far as I could. I broke the retainer cap.
Night Force repaired it for me and sent it back. They said there is nothing mechanically wrong with the scope and couldn't guess why I can't zero it.

I mounted the scope again, and issue appears to persist.

NX8 2.5-20 x 50 F1
30 MOA mount

The reticle below is shown at 50M, on 8x. The red dot is the bore sight laser.


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New Mexico Governor Bans Open and Concealed Carry


In a controversial move, Democrat Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham declared gun violence a public health emergency in response to the shooting deaths of a thirteen-year-old girl on July 28, a five-year-old girl on August 14, and an eleven-year-old boy on September 6.

One of the most troubling aspects of this public health order is the temporary suspension of open and concealed carry laws in Bernalillo County effective immediately. This action directly infringes upon law-abiding citizens’ Constitutional right to bear arms. The Governor has carved out exceptions for licensed security guards and law enforcement officers.

“The action plan includes a suspension of open and concealed carry laws in Bernalillo County, temporarily prohibiting the carrying of guns on public property with certain exceptions. Exceptions include for licensed security guards and law enforcement officers. Citizens with permits to carry firearms are free to possess their weapons on private property (such as at a gun range or gun store), provided they transport the firearm in a locked box, use a trigger lock, or some other mechanism that renders the gun incapable of being fired,” according to the press release.

The public health order also directs:

  • The Regulation and Licensing Division to conduct monthly inspections of licensed firearm dealers to ensure compliance with all sales and storage laws.
  • The Department of Health, along with the Environment Department, to begin wastewater testing for illegal substances such as fentanyl at schools.
  • The Department of Health to compile and issue a comprehensive report on gunshot victims presenting at hospitals in New Mexico, which shall include (if available): demographic data of gunshot victims, including age, gender, race, and ethnicity; data on gunshot victim’s healthcare outcomes; the brand and caliber of the firearm used; the general circumstances leading to the injury; the impact of gunshot victims on New Mexico’s healthcare system; and any other pertinent information.
  • A prohibition on firearms on state property, including state buildings and schools. This also includes other places of education where children gather, such as parks.
  • The State Police to add officers in Albuquerque with funding for overtime provided.
  • The Children, Youth and Families Department to immediately suspend the Juvenile Detention Alternative Initiative and evaluate juvenile probation protocols.
“As I said yesterday, the time for standard measures has passed,” said Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham in a statement. “And when New Mexicans are afraid to be in crowds, to take their kids to school, to leave a baseball game – when their very right to exist is threatened by the prospect of violence at every turn – something is very wrong.”

Lujan Grisham said the restrictions “are going to pose incredible challenges for me as a governor and as a state.”

“I welcome the debate and fight about how to make New Mexicans safer,” she said at a news conference.

A reporter confronted Grisham on this ridiculous order.

Reporter: All the examples you cited are crimes. Kids shooting at other kids shooting from cars. So what’s the value of the civil order? Why not just do better law enforcement?
Grisham: Both, the value of the order is that it gives me three things. One, it says it’s a statewide issue, and it’s a message to everyone to start leveraging your resources and arresting people. Two, the jurisdictions come at this, including with the DOJ restrictions differently without the leveraging and the additional resources, arresting. And where do they go? We got to make sure that everyone is bumping up their services. It’s a message to the Metropolitan Detention Center. It’s a message to the HMOs, you better figure out treatment. We have been sort of stalled out. To your point, this order basically says to stop stalling out. And to your point, just arrest everyone. Well, I also have to have the ability I can’t arrest everyone. There are literally too many people to arrest.
Reporter: If someone’s got a concealed carry permit in Albuquerque walking down a public street, they’re not going to get arrested.
Grisham: I can make the point that maybe they should be. And this is the point. I’m willing to do anything and everything within a shred of evidence based effort. Because if you’re not horrified that on any street corner in too many cities in New Mexico, there is someone with a gun sticking out of their waist or their belt. And I’ll tell you, if you’re a young person, you’re not allowed to have a handgun.
Reporter: It’s a crime already.
Grisham: I got it. But we won’t be able to arrest all of them. So imagine just in a perfect world, if this was upheld, it gives all of these police officers the ability to focus on the real criminals.
Reporter: You took an oath to the Constitution. Isn’t it unconstitutional to say you cannot exercise your carry license?
Grisham: With one exception, and that is if there’s an emergency, and I’ve declared an emergency for a temporary amount of time, I can invoke additional powers. No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute. There are restrictions on free speech. There are restrictions on my freedoms in this emergency. This eleven year old and all these parents who have lost all these children, they deserve my attention to have the debate about whether or not in an emergency, we can create a safer environment. Because what about their constitutional rights? I took an oath to uphold those, too. And if we ignore this growing problem without being bold, I’ve said to every other New Mexican, your rights are subrogated to theirs. And they are not in my view.
Reporter: Wait a minute, you’re talking about crimes. There are already laws against the crime.
Grisham: But again, if I’m unsafe, who’s standing up for that right? If this crime is so out of control, somebody should do something. I’m doing as much as I know to do.
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Reporter
: Madam Governor, do you really think that criminals are going to hear this message and not carry a gun in Albuquerque on the streets for 30 days?
Grisham: No.


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This is how it's all going to end....


It's been fun knowing you guys. If humans are still around by the end of the week I'll be pleasantly surprised.

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Most economical way to rebarrel a Howa 1500

I've got a Howa 1500 in 6.5 creedmoor with about 3000 shots on it so I am starting to look into whether or not it is worth it to rebarrel it. The gun itself probaly would not be worth it except the fact I paid way too much for a fancy MDT chassis that would go to waste if I did not.

It seems like the two options are either a prefit barrel, or to have a shouldered barrel fit to the action.

To install a prefit barrel myself I would need to buy ~$200 in tools I don't have (barrel nut wrench, barrel vice, action wrench, torque wrench)to do it right, so now a $500 prefit is $700. I'd probably rather take it to a gunsmith, which should cost around the same as if I bought the tools.

If I sent it to LRI, it would be ~$800 for a barrel to be fitted to the action.

Are there any other options?

Is there a way to remove the existing barrel with only a standard bench vice? If so the prefit becomes much more reasonable.
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Accessories Sold

Atlas CAL g2 w/ lw17 clamp sold

Atlas BT46 nc PSR sold

Atlas BT46 nc PSR nc $235 sold

I have an mlok mount, and 2 atlas pic mounts that can be included with any of them for extra or swapped for the 419 mounts.

Area 419 arca clamp $50

Prices are shipped and insured with tracking
PayPal ff or add fees

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SOLD R700 223 1:8 HS Precision w/ M5 bottom metal

This rifle has bounced around a few of us members. I ended up picking it up locally but decided to save up for a 223 conversion for my AI instead of running this one. I love the rifle, just needs a new home.

Here's the breakdown:
-factory Remington 700 SPS barreled action (1-8 twist 26 inch barrel, not threaded)
-Nightforce 20 moa rail
-Trigger tech special 2 stage
-HS precision stock w/aluminum bedding block (Rem700 police takeoff)
-Grayboe M5 bottom metal
-Ruger 223 aics mag

The price has increased a little bit from the original $775 because of the bouncing around of shipping and FFLs fees, but I am just looking to get my money back out of it.

$875 shipped as described above. Harris bipod not included.
Package deal of $1400 shipped with a Weaver Tactical 3-15 mil/mil ffp with enhanced mil dot reticle in weaver rings.


The original owner has a load I can pass along to the buyer that cloverleafs at 100.

Trades:
- LPVOs (plus or minus cash)
- mil optics (plus or minus cash)

The small holes in the target were old. Just put 5 shots into that little torn out hole with 73gr FGMM.


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Things you hear from LGS employees

So I'm at the LGS picking up some powder and right across from me is the wall of cheap holsters.

In steps in a kid that looks barely 21 selling a guy who looks my age his first carry setup. They had already settled on a crappy gun (Hellcat) then kid moves to explain how appendix carry is super uncomfortable especially while driving and explaining why a floppy uncle mikes nylon sausage sack is superior to a kydex holster.

His explanation of what the trigger safety on a striker pistol does was golden: it's there so you don't accidentally pull the trigger.

WTF

SOLD WTS Defiance Deviant/ Hawk Hill

I have a Defiance Deviant tactical short action receiver with a 27" hawk hill customs 7.5 twist (custom heavy comp contour) 25x47L barrel chambered by myself. The barrel and action only has 31 rounds on it and it hammers with everything I've shot through it.

Please feel free to ask questions as I'm sure I missed some info and pm me if you want more pictures

The gun does not include the ace muzzle brake unless you want to add it on to the price. No bipod or tripod included.

Ben

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Factory .223 Bolt Gun Decision

Hey guys,

I’ve been wanting to pick up a .223 bolt gun to punch paper out to about 200m. I want to save the barrel life on my 6CM RPR for longer range shooting, and I’d like something with less recoil than my .308, because I take friends who have never shot to the range often. I find it easier to teach fundamentals using lighter calibers.

Since this will primarily be a range toy / trainer / teaching gun, I’d like to spend about $500 on the rifle itself. Heavier barrels are preferred, and I’m a sucker for a good factory trigger. The top three contenders I’m considering are the following:

CZ 600- seems to shoot well, but very limited aftermarket support currently. I’d hope for 10rd mags to become available eventually. I haven’t felt the trigger, but I’ve read that it’s good. I’m not sure if the factory stock offers a decent free float or not. If not, I’ll be hoping the aftermarket catches up and offers an upgrade. If someone develops an aftermarket stock that will fit the Alpha, but accepts AR mags like the Trail, that would be my ideal rifle. I think the receivers and bolts are the same for both of these models.

Howa Mini- this one also shoots well for many, and is better supported than the new CZ. I got to feel a HACT trigger last weekend and thought it was very good for my needs. My biggest issue with this one is that the magazines seem super cheesy, and the only real alternative is abhorrently expensive. If I got one, I might install a hinged floorplate. I assume the factory Hogue stocks are good enough for my needs, but would love some input.

Ruger American Predator- I think this one probably has the worst factory trigger of these, but I know the trigger spring mod has made a real difference for many. I really like the idea of using my stockpile of AR mags. I won’t be loading heavy bullets for 200m plinking, so max COAL isn’t a factor for me. I’d likely throw it in a Magpul Hunter stock, which I think offers very good value when on sale.

By the time I’ve upgraded the stock and trigger on a Ruger American though, it might be worth increasing my budget to meet rifles like the Savage Axis II Precision, which comes in a nice chassis and seems to offer solid value. If I want to stick to my budget, I could probably sell the chassis and throw it in an Accustock.

What say ye? I’m open to suggestions.

Lawndart

Bartlein Barrel Install quest !

Well gentleman, and all other pronoun people, I have a small snafu. I have an unused Bartlein new barrel for a CZ 457. I can't get the thing together. The shank is VERY Tight . Bartlein said to heat up the receiver, and put the barrel into the freezer. The problem is this: I want to be able to set the headspace for a tight lockup, but if I have to freeze the barrel and heat up the receiver, it is going to be a bear to take the barrel out to put shims to set the headspace. It has the barrel grub screw cuts. There is not a gun smith close to me to get this barrel and action put together correctly. I need a smith to get this barrel and receiver together correctly. I need some recommendations as to a decent smithy to do just one little job. I don't feel comfortable heating and freezing parts to get them to go together for a rimfire CZ...........as always, thanks for your kind support ! I have Fedex Hub near me.....and my local FFL has changed hands since the Feds confiscated the license. I can ship. I have contacted a guy that advertises on line, but I have never heard back from him.