So I've seen threads on the Q Trash Panda suppressor.

Never understood what a "Trash Panda" is.

Saw a meme this morning of a pic of a raccoon being referred to as a "Trash Panda".

Oh. Learn something new everyday.

Just sharing as PSA.

Just a little info...all (most) premium barrel manufacturers stamp the end of their barrel blanks with their brand, caliber, bore size, twist rate, material used, and sometimes even a production serial number. Other larger mass production manufacturers often do not due to volume and time constraints. If you are ordering a barrel from whatever company you choose to finish the blank, always request or demand that you get that coin for a few specific reasons. First reason is that if there is any problem with the bore in production (and yes, it happens to the best of them), the first thing they will do is ask for this information, so it's a good idea to keep this coin handy until you have determined that all is well. Secondly, it's a surefire way of making sure that you have gotten exactly as you paid for and will ensure you have a record for future purchases. Lastly, if you are an avid shooter and go through a lot of barrels, these are nice to have around. I know that @padom has a ton of these and has already or is in the process of making a table top under a thick coating of urethane out of his collection.

John

Doug from Camera Land's Day 2 SHOT Show Report

To say that today was insanely busy would be beyond an understatement. I need to maybe bring a skateboard with me next year if I plan another day like today. Talk about logging miles, whew.

I started my day over at GPO. Last year they introduced their 8x32 and 10x32 Rangeguide Binoculars and I was excited to see what they were introducing now.
If you read our Pre-SHOT Show news you already know about their new GPO Spectra™ Reflex Dot: The Next Generation of a Reflex is Here, however, they did not disappoint with new products:

GPO 15-45x60 Tactical Spotting Scope with FFP Reticle. They obviously have been listening what folks have been asking and asking for.

GPOTAC 6x 4.5-27x50i FFP - LR PRO - has entered the high magnification first focal plane scope market with its new premium tactical riflescope, the GPOTAC 4.5-27x50i FFP. Designed for professional use, as well as shooters and hunters who demand the very best in long distance and tactical shooting, the 4.5-27x50i FFP mates superior materials and meticulous manufacturing processes and tolerances to produce a riflescope on par with the best out there today.

Spectra 6x 4.5-27x501 MOA Riflescope
30mm main tube
iControl illumination with low battery low indicator
GPObright lens coating technology
DoubleHD objective lens technology
PASSIONtrac zero-stop locking turrets
1/4″ at 100 yards turret-adjustment
MOAi illuminated reticle with microdot technology
Removable magnification throw lever

I went from GPO to Hawke. Glad to see my friends here and catch up. Again, assuming you already have seen our SHOT Show News page then you're aware of their new Frontier LRF 8x42 & 10x42 Rangefinder Binoculars & Vantage IR 1-4x20 - Turkey Dot Riflescope

Hawke has been quite busy and we are excited to be an active Hawke dealer.
Here is a list of everything coming in 2023
Vantage 30 WA IR 1–4x24 Fiber Dot 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 1–8x24 Fiber Dot1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 2.5–10x50 Fiber Dot 1/4 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 3–12x56 -Fiber Dot 1/4 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 1–8x24 L4A Dot 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 1–8x24 Circle Dot 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 1–8x24 5.56 Tactical 8x 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 3–9x42 L4A Dot 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage IR 1–4x20 Turkey Dot IR 1/4 MOA Low-Profile (50yd PX, 4"ER)
XB30 2–7x32 SR 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Prism Sight 1x15
Prism Sight 4x24
Prism Sight 6x36
Frontier LRF 8x42 & 10x42 Rangefinder Binoculars
Vantage 8x32 Green Fully Multi-Coated
Vantage 10x32 Green Fully Multi-Coated
Vantage 10x50 Green Fully Multi-Coated
Vantage 12x50 Green Fully Multi-Coated
Nature-Trek Compact 13–39x56 Straight w/ window mount

I was very impressed with their Vantage IR 1-4x20 - Turkey Dot - Red / Green Illuminated reticle with 5 brightness settings, over 4" of ER and a true 1 power. Both eyes open perfect 1x. For $219.99 grab this for your short range scope or for kids as the eye relief is amazing.

Their Vantage 1-8x24 WA's are also true 1x scopes also Red/Green and at $399.99 certainly worth checking out.

I was excited to see the new Frontier LRF 8x42 & 10x42 Rangefinder Binoculars Optics looked nice at the edges, no blue cast to the vision (Can't really do an optics evaluation inside a convention center) and 6 controllable brightness settings on the LED readout. Its range finding capabilities include: Distance, Rain, Hunt, Near, Horizontal Distance and Angle modes. The display brightness can be manually adjusted between 6 levels of brightness. The LRF requires a 3V CR2 battery and will automatically turn off after 15 seconds of no operation to save power.

I was contacted a few weeks ago by a rep I once worked with over at Steiner. He is now with Pard Nightvision. Out of a combination of curiosity of what he's been up to the last few years and what Pard was all about I made an appointment to meet up with him. After catching up he started showing me why I wanted to carry Pard as spec wise it is impressive, however, I stopped him after the response to my question "Is Pard a USA company". It is a Chinese company. We understand that many of the brands we carry source product from China. That's fine as it's a world market place, however, the profits from those companies stay here in the USA. Pard is a Chinese company so all $$$$ stay in China. I'm sure it's a great product from what he was saying, however, we prefer not to support a Chinese owned brand.

Coincidentally, my next meeting was with Steiner. As you know they recently released their T6Xi Riflescopes which very quickly have become quite popular and well received.

Steiner T6Xi Riflescopes
Steiner, a leader in high-performance optics for military and law enforcement as well as the professional marksman, announces an all-new series of riflescopes covering the full spectrum of tactical shooting needs. From CQB engagement, overwatch, or long-distance target operations, the Steiner riflescope T6Xi series combines advanced German engineering with made-in-America precision manufacturing to deliver premium, rugged optics that are ready to fulfill any mission, anywhere.

T6Xi 5-30x56 for long-range and precision shooting

T6Xi 3-18x56 and T6Xi 2.5-15x50 for near- to extended-range performance

T6Xi 1-6x24 for close-quarter to mid-range engagements

The T6Xi series builds on Steiner's legendary T5Xi optics developed for advanced tactical and competitive shooting, and incorporates the latest in Steiner glass and lens coating technology for brighter and clearer views in all light and field conditions. Upgraded locking windage and elevation turrets ensure maximum confidence while in the field.

Continuing along the theme of high end optics I went off to my meeting with Nightforce. We chatted a bit and caught up. No new product at this point, however, back ordered product is fewer, turn around times are shorter throughout the line and production delays have shortened. All great news as far as I'm concerned.

Staying with top end optics my next stop was a meeting with Tangent Theta. Talk about professionals. The crew are Tangent are just all such nice, knowledgeable and friendly folks it's just a pleasure to meet with them. I was shown the new 7-35x56....
An inch shorter than their TT525P
Similar weight
Same windage and elevation as the TT525P
36mm main tube
Parallax 10m - infinity
First run will be black only
Initial reticle offering is the Gen 3XR Fine, with more to follow. If you want the Rolls Royce of scopes you just found what you're looking for.

I also checked out their SAI Optics™ model SAI 6™ - The SAI™ 6 series of optical sights provide a rugged and versatile solution for a variety of sighting requirements in variable magnification. With an LED-illuminated First Focal Plane reticle, ranging and ballistic hold-off is accurately achieved at any magnification. The proprietary Rapid Aiming Feature™ reticle and superior field of view enhance close-quarter effectiveness. The ruggedized tubular design allows for a variety of modular mounting solutions.

The SAI™ 6 series is designed to accommodate advanced optical sighting system enhancements such as flip covers, Anti-Reflection Devices, laser filters, and polarizers. SAI™6 series sights are designed for brilliant optical performance in rugged environments.

We have been a Bushnell dealer for decades. As they go through different hierarchy changes they treat us either as a Camera dealer, in which case we are not permitted to order Tactical product, and sometimes we are treated, as we should be, as a Sport Optics retailer, and we have provided you with some amazing opportunities on their Tactical scopes. In 2019 & 2020 we did big business with Bushnell and then new folks came in and we were reverted to Camera dealer status and no longer able to purchase their Tactical scopes (a shame as we went through over 3,000 of their scopes the prior year). We had, what I thought was a good meeting last year at SHOT but nothing came of it. We met again today. I think the meeting went well and hopefully we will soon be back handling their premium riflescopes. Stay tuned and we will let you know when we know.

A short walk brought me over to Leupold. I look forward to my meeting with Leupold as my rep is a great guy and the Nat'l is as well. Leupold has been an industry main stay for decades and usually introduces something very worth sharing here at SHOT.
They showed me their new BX-4 Range HD TBR/W 10x42 Rangefinder Binocular - Should be available in 6-8 weeks. Optics look great (again based on being inside a convention center). The BX-4 Range HD TBR®/W 10x42mm fuses Leupold's DNA® engine and ballistics software with the optical performance diehard hunters and shooters demand. Now you can spot and range targets without wasting valuable seconds switching between gear. Its high-contrast red OLED display delivers visible readouts in any light, and its edge-to-edge clarity makes glassing sessions easy on the eyes. The next time you’re packing for a match or hunt, cut the excess. Take the BX-4 Range HD TBR/W.

Next I was shown their new Mark 5 HD 2-10x30 Riflescope. - "Pick up a Mark 5HD™ and you’ll feel the difference; it’s up to 20 ounces lighter than other scopes in its class. Get behind one and you’ll see the difference, from the superior edge to-edge clarity and extreme low-light performance to the versatility of the PR2™ reticle. With three revolutions of elevation adjustment, the Mark 5HD was built to max out the performance of the latest long range rifles and ammunition. It’s ergonomically designed with more tactile, audible click adjustments, larger numbers, and a high-speed throw lever, so you can put accurate rounds downrange faster. And like all Leupold riflescopes, it’s designed, machined, and assembled in the USA and guaranteed for life."
No fisheye effect, no distortion, PA, so compact. Great scope for sure IMO. Looks like the successful Mark 5 HD line of scopes has given birth to a great addition....
Mark 5HD 2-10x30 (35mm) M5C3 FFP TMR
Mark 5HD 2-10x30 (35mm) M5C3 FFP Illum. TMR
Mark 5HD 2-10x30 (35mm) M1C3 FFP PR-1MOA
There are more reticle options coming mid-year for this scope. These new three SKUs now are just the first round. Very exciting.

My last stop of the day is with another long standing industry brand, Zeiss. A few months back we got a new sales rep and I was looking forward to meeting him. He's been attentive to our account, great on the phone and e-mails but it's always nice to put a face with the assistance. Turns out, great guy.
Checked out their new SFL 30 Ultra-Compact Binoculars - the newest, lightest, and most compact binoculars to the ZEISS SF family. The ZEISS SFL (SmartFocus and Lightweight) is certainly impressive. Then I checked out the New Generation of V8 Riflescopes - They feature a 30/34mm main tube, exceptional optical performance, an extra-large eye box, and a daylight visible illuminated dot reticle.

Zeiss is doing everything right and I think these new products are excellent additions to their line up of superior products.

Remember all week we are running a SHOT Show Week Sale so if it's not marked down already call, 516-217-1000, and we will hook you up.

If there is anything you're looking for please give us a call at 516-217-1000. It is always our pleasure to speak with you. Always give a call to discuss options and what would be best for your needs.

I switched it up a bit today and went to Sloan's Homemade Ice Cream and got a waffle cone of Dark Chocolate Chunk and Coffee ice cream. Damn that hit the spot.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. More tomorrow, Day 3. Have a great day & please follow us on Instagram at gr8fuldoug_

Thank you for your continued support.
If there is anything else that we can assist you with please let us know.
Camera Land
720 Old Bethpage Road
Old Bethpage, NY 11804
516-217-1000
Please visit our web site @ www.cameralandny.com

Reading some bolt-action blogs and watching youtube reviews, Kreiger, Bartlein, and Proof Research are pretty big names in the precision rifle bolt-action world, along with Hawk Hill and Benchmark. Do these three names carry the same weight in the AR world, especially with regard to precision and long-range shooting? They are all priced around $600 or more so I can assume you are paying for quality, or are you partially just paying for the name? With match-grade ammo or ammo you reload yourself, do these three giants run with the very best barrels you can possibly get for the AR-15 platform, for precision and accuracy-focused builds?

I'm putting aside WOA, Shilen, Criterion, Lilja, JP, etc. because my question is rather focused on whether these 3 specific giants have made as successful a transition from precision rifle (bolt-action) shooting over into the AR space, especially the AR-15. There is not that much content on Youtube that focuses on these three names in the AR-15 world.

Doug from Camera Land's Day 2 SHOT Show Report

To say that today was insanely busy would be beyond an understatement. I need to maybe bring a skateboard with me next year if I plan another day like today. Talk about logging miles, whew.

I started my day over at GPO. Last year they introduced their 8x32 and 10x32 Rangeguide Binoculars and I was excited to see what they were introducing now.
If you read our Pre-SHOT Show news you already know about their new GPO Spectra™ Reflex Dot: The Next Generation of a Reflex is Here, however, they did not disappoint with new products:

GPO 15-45x60 Tactical Spotting Scope with FFP Reticle. They obviously have been listening what folks have been asking and asking for.

GPOTAC 6x 4.5-27x50i FFP - LR PRO - has entered the high magnification first focal plane scope market with its new premium tactical riflescope, the GPOTAC 4.5-27x50i FFP. Designed for professional use, as well as shooters and hunters who demand the very best in long distance and tactical shooting, the 4.5-27x50i FFP mates superior materials and meticulous manufacturing processes and tolerances to produce a riflescope on par with the best out there today.

Spectra 6x 4.5-27x501 MOA Riflescope
30mm main tube
iControl illumination with low battery low indicator
GPObright lens coating technology
DoubleHD objective lens technology
PASSIONtrac zero-stop locking turrets
1/4″ at 100 yards turret-adjustment
MOAi illuminated reticle with microdot technology
Removable magnification throw lever

I went from GPO to Hawke. Glad to see my friends here and catch up. Again, assuming you already have seen our SHOT Show News page then you're aware of their new Frontier LRF 8x42 & 10x42 Rangefinder Binoculars & Vantage IR 1-4x20 - Turkey Dot Riflescope

Hawke has been quite busy and we are excited to be an active Hawke dealer.
Here is a list of everything coming in 2023
Vantage 30 WA IR 1–4x24 Fiber Dot 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 1–8x24 Fiber Dot1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 2.5–10x50 Fiber Dot 1/4 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 3–12x56 -Fiber Dot 1/4 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 1–8x24 L4A Dot 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 1–8x24 Circle Dot 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 1–8x24 5.56 Tactical 8x 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage 30 WA IR 3–9x42 L4A Dot 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Vantage IR 1–4x20 Turkey Dot IR 1/4 MOA Low-Profile (50yd PX, 4"ER)
XB30 2–7x32 SR 1/2 MOA Low-Profile
Prism Sight 1x15
Prism Sight 4x24
Prism Sight 6x36
Frontier LRF 8x42 & 10x42 Rangefinder Binoculars
Vantage 8x32 Green Fully Multi-Coated
Vantage 10x32 Green Fully Multi-Coated
Vantage 10x50 Green Fully Multi-Coated
Vantage 12x50 Green Fully Multi-Coated
Nature-Trek Compact 13–39x56 Straight w/ window mount

I was very impressed with their Vantage IR 1-4x20 - Turkey Dot - Red / Green Illuminated reticle with 5 brightness settings, over 4" of ER and a true 1 power. Both eyes open perfect 1x. For $219.99 grab this for your short range scope or for kids as the eye relief is amazing.

Their Vantage 1-8x24 WA's are also true 1x scopes also Red/Green and at $399.99 certainly worth checking out.

I was excited to see the new Frontier LRF 8x42 & 10x42 Rangefinder Binoculars Optics looked nice at the edges, no blue cast to the vision (Can't really do an optics evaluation inside a convention center) and 6 controllable brightness settings on the LED readout. Its range finding capabilities include: Distance, Rain, Hunt, Near, Horizontal Distance and Angle modes. The display brightness can be manually adjusted between 6 levels of brightness. The LRF requires a 3V CR2 battery and will automatically turn off after 15 seconds of no operation to save power.

I was contacted a few weeks ago by a rep I once worked with over at Steiner. He is now with Pard Nightvision. Out of a combination of curiosity of what he's been up to the last few years and what Pard was all about I made an appointment to meet up with him. After catching up he started showing me why I wanted to carry Pard as spec wise it is impressive, however, I stopped him after the response to my question "Is Pard a USA company". It is a Chinese company. We understand that many of the brands we carry source product from China. That's fine as it's a world market place, however, the profits from those companies stay here in the USA. Pard is a Chinese company so all $$$$ stay in China. I'm sure it's a great product from what he was saying, however, we prefer not to support a Chinese owned brand.

Coincidentally, my next meeting was with Steiner. As you know they recently released their T6Xi Riflescopes which very quickly have become quite popular and well received.

Steiner T6Xi Riflescopes
Steiner, a leader in high-performance optics for military and law enforcement as well as the professional marksman, announces an all-new series of riflescopes covering the full spectrum of tactical shooting needs. From CQB engagement, overwatch, or long-distance target operations, the Steiner riflescope T6Xi series combines advanced German engineering with made-in-America precision manufacturing to deliver premium, rugged optics that are ready to fulfill any mission, anywhere.

T6Xi 5-30x56 for long-range and precision shooting

T6Xi 3-18x56 and T6Xi 2.5-15x50 for near- to extended-range performance

T6Xi 1-6x24 for close-quarter to mid-range engagements

The T6Xi series builds on Steiner's legendary T5Xi optics developed for advanced tactical and competitive shooting, and incorporates the latest in Steiner glass and lens coating technology for brighter and clearer views in all light and field conditions. Upgraded locking windage and elevation turrets ensure maximum confidence while in the field.

Continuing along the theme of high end optics I went off to my meeting with Nightforce. We chatted a bit and caught up. No new product at this point, however, back ordered product is fewer, turn around times are shorter throughout the line and production delays have shortened. All great news as far as I'm concerned.

Staying with top end optics my next stop was a meeting with Tangent Theta. Talk about professionals. The crew are Tangent are just all such nice, knowledgeable and friendly folks it's just a pleasure to meet with them. I was shown the new 7-35x56....
An inch shorter than their TT525P
Similar weight
Same windage and elevation as the TT525P
36mm main tube
Parallax 10m - infinity
First run will be black only
Initial reticle offering is the Gen 3XR Fine, with more to follow. If you want the Rolls Royce of scopes you just found what you're looking for.

I also checked out their SAI Optics™ model SAI 6™ - The SAI™ 6 series of optical sights provide a rugged and versatile solution for a variety of sighting requirements in variable magnification. With an LED-illuminated First Focal Plane reticle, ranging and ballistic hold-off is accurately achieved at any magnification. The proprietary Rapid Aiming Feature™ reticle and superior field of view enhance close-quarter effectiveness. The ruggedized tubular design allows for a variety of modular mounting solutions.

The SAI™ 6 series is designed to accommodate advanced optical sighting system enhancements such as flip covers, Anti-Reflection Devices, laser filters, and polarizers. SAI™6 series sights are designed for brilliant optical performance in rugged environments.

We have been a Bushnell dealer for decades. As they go through different hierarchy changes they treat us either as a Camera dealer, in which case we are not permitted to order Tactical product, and sometimes we are treated, as we should be, as a Sport Optics retailer, and we have provided you with some amazing opportunities on their Tactical scopes. In 2019 & 2020 we did big business with Bushnell and then new folks came in and we were reverted to Camera dealer status and no longer able to purchase their Tactical scopes (a shame as we went through over 3,000 of their scopes the prior year). We had, what I thought was a good meeting last year at SHOT but nothing came of it. We met again today. I think the meeting went well and hopefully we will soon be back handling their premium riflescopes. Stay tuned and we will let you know when we know.

A short walk brought me over to Leupold. I look forward to my meeting with Leupold as my rep is a great guy and the Nat'l is as well. Leupold has been an industry main stay for decades and usually introduces something very worth sharing here at SHOT.
They showed me their new BX-4 Range HD TBR/W 10x42 Rangefinder Binocular - Should be available in 6-8 weeks. Optics look great (again based on being inside a convention center). The BX-4 Range HD TBR®/W 10x42mm fuses Leupold's DNA® engine and ballistics software with the optical performance diehard hunters and shooters demand. Now you can spot and range targets without wasting valuable seconds switching between gear. Its high-contrast red OLED display delivers visible readouts in any light, and its edge-to-edge clarity makes glassing sessions easy on the eyes. The next time you’re packing for a match or hunt, cut the excess. Take the BX-4 Range HD TBR/W.

Next I was shown their new Mark 5 HD 2-10x30 Riflescope. - "Pick up a Mark 5HD™ and you’ll feel the difference; it’s up to 20 ounces lighter than other scopes in its class. Get behind one and you’ll see the difference, from the superior edge to-edge clarity and extreme low-light performance to the versatility of the PR2™ reticle. With three revolutions of elevation adjustment, the Mark 5HD was built to max out the performance of the latest long range rifles and ammunition. It’s ergonomically designed with more tactile, audible click adjustments, larger numbers, and a high-speed throw lever, so you can put accurate rounds downrange faster. And like all Leupold riflescopes, it’s designed, machined, and assembled in the USA and guaranteed for life."
No fisheye effect, no distortion, PA, so compact. Great scope for sure IMO. Looks like the successful Mark 5 HD line of scopes has given birth to a great addition....
Mark 5HD 2-10x30 (35mm) M5C3 FFP TMR
Mark 5HD 2-10x30 (35mm) M5C3 FFP Illum. TMR
Mark 5HD 2-10x30 (35mm) M1C3 FFP PR-1MOA
There are more reticle options coming mid-year for this scope. These new three SKUs now are just the first round. Very exciting.

My last stop of the day is with another long standing industry brand, Zeiss. A few months back we got a new sales rep and I was looking forward to meeting him. He's been attentive to our account, great on the phone and e-mails but it's always nice to put a face with the assistance. Turns out, great guy.
Checked out their new SFL 30 Ultra-Compact Binoculars - the newest, lightest, and most compact binoculars to the ZEISS SF family. The ZEISS SFL (SmartFocus and Lightweight) is certainly impressive. Then I checked out the New Generation of V8 Riflescopes - They feature a 30/34mm main tube, exceptional optical performance, an extra-large eye box, and a daylight visible illuminated dot reticle.

Zeiss is doing everything right and I think these new products are excellent additions to their line up of superior products.

Remember all week we are running a SHOT Show Week Sale so if it's not marked down already call, 516-217-1000, and we will hook you up.

If there is anything you're looking for please give us a call at 516-217-1000. It is always our pleasure to speak with you. Always give a call to discuss options and what would be best for your needs.

I switched it up a bit today and went to Sloan's Homemade Ice Cream and got a waffle cone of Dark Chocolate Chunk and Coffee ice cream. Damn that hit the spot.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. More tomorrow, Day 3. Have a great day & please follow us on Instagram at gr8fuldoug_

Thank you for your continued support.
If there is anything else that we can assist you with please let us know.
Camera Land
720 Old Bethpage Road
Old Bethpage, NY 11804
516-217-1000
Please visit our web site @ www.cameralandny.com

Alright guys I was tossing around the idea of doing some snow monster and flips merch. Talked with the guys that made the image and they are cool with it. They requested that their cut of the proceeds be donated a charity of choice by @lowlight

Being that this whole debacle started by an attempt to scalp this community, I will follow suit with them and donate all of the proceeds to the chosen charity.

I’m wanting to do a run of patches and stickers

Procurement cost for the patches are roughly as follows
50- $5/ea
100 $4/ea
200-$3/ea
300-$2.25ea
500-$1.50
5000- $.68

Stickers
300-$.50
500- $.31
5000- $.15

Going to need to look into what the cheapest option for shipping will be

Pricing wise I’m thinking
Patches $8/ea plus shipping
Stickers do a 10 for $5

Hopefully get get enough bought to justify the 5000 count roll and I can increase the amount each person gets

Looking to get a headcount and preorder before these get bought so I can buy the most price efficient amount.

ETA on goods would be roughly a month after order

fellow Filipian @MarinePMI has deemed the cause worthy and is donating 100 challenge coins to the cause, price for the coins will be $5 each plus shipping costs. First come first serve.

If you buy coins/stickers/patches all will ship together so it will only be one shipping cost.

Not sure where to begin...but jump testing is something we all see a lot, and it typically the discussion goes back to bullet timing/barrel vibrations/etc...along those lines.

one thing that has always hung in my mind is "forgiving" bullets...how are bullets "forgiving" if the whole idea of load dev, is based upon timing up when the bullet exits the muzzle with some movement/vibration pattern...do forgiving bullets not make the barrel move/vibrate? (obviously not the case) do forgiving bullets not deflect the same when exiting a moving barrel? self correct? i dont have an answer, just questions...

is it possible that instead of barrel timing/muzzle exit, all seating depth needs to be is "good enough to hand off the bullet straight"? ie; Bullet A, gets a clean/straight hand off due to bullet shape and chamber spec relationship from .005" to .150" off...basically it gets a good hand off anywhere having the bearing surface out of the neck because that "forgiving" design allows it so...while maybe Bullet B, has less agreeable relationship with chamber design, and it doesnt get a clean/straight hand off from .005" to .020" off...gets straight from .025 to .050"...then its iffy again past that...again, just illustrative examples

all of this also assumes the reloading practices and chambers have the correct relationships...bad reloading practices or bad chamber specs/chamber jobs is another thing...basically sound reloading practices (consistent doesnt always equal sound...if youre making burs in brass, deforming bullets in seating, etc...even if you do it every time...its not good for results)

im sure anyone who has done much reloading/shooting knows certain bullets just shoot in a lot of barrels...its almost hard to get them not to...SMKs, Berger BT Target (better than hybrids in my experience)...Hybrids and Hornady ELDs are way better than most also

For actual shooting scenarios where this has shown up for me...i had a 223 barrel a while back...shooting 80 VLDs. I did powder tests, i did the Berger jump tests (the off the lands version i think from .020 to .120 or whatever it was)...and everything was basically 3/4" @ 100...some groups around 1/2", some closer to 1", but everything in a decent sample size...3/4", which is not a pretty looking group shooting small .224 bullets

Buddy of mine said "try them .005" off"...so i did, groups instantly cut in approx. 1/2...went to shooting a lot of ragged holes groups on the regular in the 1/4-5/8" range...and it did this for a pretty long time, until the lands wore away...it basically became a 3/4moa system again over time

at the same time...ive had A LOT of barrels over the years...easily north of 20 since 2015...where i shot forgiving bullets...SMKs, Berger BT target/juggernauts/hybrids...and in those barrels, i cant find a REAL seating depth difference...i can seat a Berger BT Target (what i use most the last few years), anywhere from .020 to .100 off, and every barrel will shoot them basically the same for relevant sample sizes...i cant shoot the difference day to day, but i know everyone on the internet shoots better so maybe they can lol

so my question goes back to...if jump (and powder charge) have to do with barrel timing/vibrations/muzzle movement...why do certain bullet designs seem to ignore this? barrel has still got to be moving

is it possible that the amount of jump is just a pass/fail scenario? in that it gets handed off clean/straight or it doesnt in relation to how the case/bullet reacts with the chamber geometry

of course, it could also be possible that shooting from a bipod/rear bag...the barrel vibration/movement variation is so small, i cant reliably/consistently see it in the results...and bullets being handed off crooked is all i can shoot accurately enough to see on target...maybe?

and yes...ive seen peoples small sample testing that show "clear winners"...i have stacks of my own also. I also have stacks of load dev where i shot "forgiving" bullets across 2-5 grain charge windows and .100" jump windows that didnt move significantly at all...possible can barrels be oscillating within a similar window at all times, and the variation seen on target is just how straight the bullet was handed off and leaves the bore?

ive also seen the barrel time info/papers/data....but i still hang up when that doesnt apply or show up on target...

curious to hear some other thoughts and experiences...lots of nuance and noise to weed out in these topics so hopefully i got my thoughts across clearly

id also like skip over any "i shot 5 rounds of A and 5 rounds of B, and A was .1" smaller so A will always be better..." ...we all know how that would hold up lol

Side Note: outside of the "unforgiving" VLD design in that 223 that showed a clear difference...i dont see the large shifts/changes a lot of people seem to see from small jump variations, or powder for that matter...its not like .020 is 1/3moa for 10 shots, and .030 is 1.25moa for 10 shots...if i do see large variations, when retested, they dont hold up, typically attributed to an outlier or i shanked one...my variations are always very small, with lots of overlap, and larger samples blend the differences together...simply put, my barrels/rifles dont consistently (aka the vast majority of the time) shoot better than 1/2" or worse than 3/4" for large sample sizes...no matter what i change in my loads with the "forgiving" bullets (within reason, using good components and known reliable combos)...yes yes, ive shot a ton of ragged hole groups like everyone else, but theyre small outliers, not the overall average everyday

Xlr envy pro long night vision mount- $95

Palmetto state armory forend- $100
35mm leupold mark AR IMS 1 price mount BNIB- $300

Buffer and buffer spring- $25

MDT ACC m-lok data card- $40

Spy point link S dark solar trail cam, out of package but never used- $125

Reconyx hyperfire 2 trail cam, out of package but never used- $300

Hornady match grade 6.5-284 Norma die set some surface rust will be cleaned up before shipped-$40

RCBS 7mm Rem Mag die set- $30

Wilson 6xc micrometer seating due- $75

Redding 6.5-284norma full length sizing die- $60

Redding 6xc type s bushing style full sizing die- $75

MDT .224 Valkyrie polymer 10rnd mag out of package but never used- $35

Clearing up some room for more shit! You guys should know the drill here….. no low ballers! Payment via PayPal f&f. Or Venmo.

Trades? Hawkins 34mm 1.0” heavy duty tactical rings. That’s the top of the list. But hit me up if you have something else in mind?

First off is a gently used(only mounted) never fired arken sh-4 gen II 4-16x50 moa rifle scope. Includes box,sunshade,a vortex defender front objective cover, and throw lever. 260.00

Second is a rigid precision 20moa 34mm mount. 55.00

Badger ordnance 30mm m40a3 rings. Coated and painted. Sold!

Like to sell these together… aics 10 round magazines. One accurate mag,one mdt poly/metal. Sold!

Oakley gauge 8 shades. Authentic! Worn twice. Sold!

Rayban tortoise shell , yes they’re real! Sold!

She infers she is resigning from burnout - I think more likely she is being promoted within the WEF.

Who actually believes this. ?


Reference

New Stag bolt gun. 60° prototype aiming for Tactical hunter crowd. They told me these prototypes are aluminum actions but they are working with magnesium also. Price point to be between $1500-$2000 MSRP. Shooting for summer launch with complete rifles first then components later. I liked this action better than the new Aero offering. Chassis felt very good and very similar to a Bravo.

Updated 1/19

Hi everyone,

Selling some of my gear as I am getting out of the hobby. Most of it pretty much brand new. Will ship at buyers expense unless discussed. Take PP, Venmo, Zelle, etc. Located in Hammock Beach/St Augustine, FL. Local pickup welcome.

- Bergara Premier Ridgeback 6mm Creedmoor, Unknown Munitions full ARCA rail, APW Raptor Break, extra mags, 300 rounds total - $1700

- Brinks Excursion 22lr case - 250rds + 4 AICS mags - $100

- Sig Sauer Kilo 1400BDX - $130


Pics:

RRS Rail, $75
Aluminum Rail $50
Sc-Arc $100, missing pin
Btc-pro $60

All prices shipped
PayPal F and F

BT-65-NC CAL bipod. New in package. 235 Shipped.Sold
BT-10 with ADM 17. Used 200 Shipped
FT 70 raider spiked feet. New in package. 65 shipped Sold

Payment by PPff, Venmo, Zelle.

I have over 5000 of these bad boys. All same lot. Selling for 170 per 500. Not willing to sell less than 500 at a time. Thank you!

The pictures of serial killers on her walls should have been a clue:


The knife I used is in the sink — the cut on his neck is pretty brutal; when I put it in his neck he rolled over," Graves explained.

500 105 Hybrid $300 shipped
I know it’s kinda high but I didn’t pay regular price either.

Tikka T3X
Bartline 1:7
26"
6mm creedmor
75 rounds on the barrel
Additional 20" .308 factory barrel
KRG Bravo enclosed forend
NF 20 moa rail
Two additional fluted bolts
GM trigger spring
Gm bolt handle and factory
Asking 2k flexable
Pics available upon request

(Muzzle break and 419 rail not included)

Zero Compromise 4-20x50 with mpct3 reticle.
$3000 shipped. Insurance can be added if paid for.
Perfect glass, no problems.
Comes with spuhr mount. Will not split.

Doug from Camera Land's Day 1 SHOT Show Report

SHOT Show Day 1 was a very busy day. I actually started yesterday with a Monday meeting with Kowa Optics. At this time Kowa is only revealing that we will see some new editions before the year is out. They have been on top of getting their new Alpha quality TSN-99 Series into us and they are extremely well reviewed.

A little out of the ordinary way for me to start SHOT Show this year, I met Rod of Astra Optix outside the main hall to discuss their HBX 1600B 10x42 Rangefinder Binocular. We spoke before Thanksgiving and Rod sent his HBX 1600B 10x42 Rangefinder Binocular into us to check out. It's a 10x42 1760 Yard LCD Laser Rangefinder Binocular. Nothing fancy, however, it does have Angle mode, Archery mode, Ballistic mode and Scan mode. It grabbed our interest because optically it was very pleasing and it's only $499.99. There's absolutely a place for a good optical quality 10x42 Rangefinding binocular that's only $499.99. It would great to meet with them and have a discussion and I believe we will be bringing these in. Stay tuned for more details.

I entered the show and headed over to a meeting with Athlon. Great to see my friend and rep Drake. After catching up he showed me the new HERAS SPR Riflescopes and their new Talos BTR Gen 2 Riflescopes . The Outdoor Wire was nice enough to post this Athlons Twenty-Four New Products Revealed article, which makes my writing easier. In my opinion Athlon is doing everything right to become a top optics brand. Every year Athlon refines and grows, without trying too much at once. They are impressive in the way they have developed as a company, listened to customer suggestions and refined their customer service.

Athlons new line of HERAS SPR Riflescopes pushes the envelope even further with features previously unheard of at this price point. The HERAS SPR offerings are incredibly versatile and cover a wide range of applications suitable to hunters, small-bore shooters, and air-gunners alike. This robust line is designed to handle the forward impulse of springer air guns, PCP and recoil from magnum centerfire rifles.

The Talos BTR Gen 2 Riflescopes
"It was hard to imagine a first focal plane rifle scope at under $400, but the first generation Talos BTR proved it could be done. The Talos BTR GEN2 builds on that reputation with improved turrets and the addition of a true precision zero stop. All while maintaining repeatable tracking and the affordable price! Fully Multi-Coated lenses and illuminated etched reticles enable the Talos BTR GEN2 to perform in a wide range of conditions."

Next I went to over to see Burris. To say I was blown away at what they showed me would be an understatement. I realize it's day 1 but I'm thinking the "Product of SHOT Show 2023" will be their new Veracity™ PH Riflescope 4-20x50mm. Featuring the new Burris PĒK (Programable Elevation Knob) System the Veracity PH takes speed and precision to the highest level. The Wind MOA was designed specifically for the Veracity PH and allows shooters to easily, dial to distance, compensate for wind, or quickly holdover.
Clean, simple FFP reticle with 1-MOA tick marks extending to 12 MOA on each side.
When crosshairs are set for zero at 100 yards each line on the lower vertical crosshair will be calibrated for 200, 300 and 400 yards respectively for the average big game caliber. Use the BurrisConnect app for an accurate reticle map for your prefered cartridge.
Progressively Thick Crosshairs (PTC) are very fine in the center and progressively thicker away from the center, for ultra-fast target engagement in low light at close ranges; effective at any magnification
Works seamlessly with the PĒK (Prgramable elevaltion knob) system and wind value in the Veracity PH heads up display. At $999.99 this scope is a winner. All these features in a standard designed riflescope (No odd bumps or whatnot in the design).

As if this introduction wouldn't have been enough next I checked out their new Signature LRF 10x42 Rangefiner Binocular (yes, LED with brightness control) 5 - 2600 yard range and priced below what I expected at only $999.99.

Just when I thought I couldn't be more impressed I was told about (They did not have one here) the Summer 2023 release of their coming Signature HD 15x56, Made in Japan binocular priced at only $799.99.

Burris, way to make Day 1 exciting, thank you.

As many of you know we went big halfway through last year with Revic Optics and Tripods. It was great meeting with them as I have been speaking with my rep for months and it was great to finally meet him. Their Tripods are excellent and so worth you taking a moment to investigate. We discussed their Acura Series Spotting Scopes with Reticle Eyepiece. My buddy said he really likes that the eyepiece is both MIL and MOS and not intrusive. The optical quality is superior to most. If you're not familiar with Revic Spotters you should be. Take a moment and check into them.

Next stop was at Pulsar to discuss what was exciting and new. I was not disappointed.

DXP50 - The world’s first multispectral hunting riflescope, the Thermion Duo combines the high-tech thermal imaging Pulsar is known for with the clarity and vividness of a full-color daytime optic.
Designed primarily for hunting, the Thermion Duo DXP50 has a detection range of 1800 yards. This highly versatile multispectral optic can defeat animal camouflage and fog on thermal mode and judge a prey’s trophy qualities in daylight with its full color mode. With its picture-in-picture feature, a hunter can simultaneously find an animal through dense fog or foliage with its 640x480 high-sensitivity thermal sensor while observing the area around it in full color 4k HD.
The Thermion Duo DXP50 boasts the wide range of practical features Pulsar products are known for, including one-shot freeze zeroing, 1024x768 photo and video recording with audio, Wi-Fi integration with the Stream Vision 2 app, and advanced image processing.

LRF XG50 which is the 1st thermal imaging riflescope with classic design and built in LRF. A standard 6ft tall object can be detected up to 2500 yards away in complete darkness. 5 individual shooting profiles and 50 zeroing distances.

Then I was shown the new LRF XL50 Thermal Rangefinder Binoculars. Holy Crap. This thing is amazing. Variable 2.5-20x magnification range, classic binocular design, built in photo and video recorder.

I was looking forward to my next meeting at Swarovski. I got to catch up with my buddies for a bit and then we discussed what's been going on with their new computer system and the issues with folks getting in contact. I was informed the best way to reach Swarovski is through your computer, not by calling.
To Request Service or Parts visit myservice.swarovski.com Remember to enter as much detail about your optic as possible to help them help you. Model, serial # who you are, your phone # and e-mail and they will get back with you. Please be patient while they settle into this upgraded computer system, which in the long run will make things better than ever.

Last years "Best of Show" IMO was the Meopta MeoSport R 3-15x50 RD SFP-4C Riflescope. Apparently many of you agree as we sold an insane amount of these scopes in the past year. There will be more additions later this year similar to this scope, but nothing to report on this quite yet. Stay tuned.
Meopta Introduced the MeoSight IV Red Dot Sight - This new red dot reflex sight is Meopta’s smallest, weighing just 1.2 ounces. Its ultra-low profile makes the MeoSight IV ideal for handguns. It can also be mounted to a primary riflescope for fast and accurate close-quarter target acquisition or mounted directly to an accessory rail.

Remember all week we are running a SHOT Show Week Sale so if it's not marked down already call, 516-217-1000, and we will hook you up.

If there is anything you're looking for please give us a call at 516-217-1000. It is always our pleasure to speak with you. Always give a call to discuss options and what would be best for your needs.

13,000 + steps later I arrived at the Gelato Shop and got a double scoop of Birthday Cake and ahhhhhh did that make my sore throat feel better.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. More tomorrow, Day 2. Have a great day & please follow us on Instagram at gr8fuldoug_

Thank you for your continued support.
If there is anything else that we can assist you with please let us know.

Camera Land
720 Old Bethpage Road
Old Bethpage, NY 11804
516-217-1000
Please visit our web site @ www.cameralandny.com

I have a couple triggertech diamond rem700 right hand flat shoe triggers I wanna sell. All of them are in great condition don’t have the boxes. These will be shipped and insured for the amount you send
$240

NXS 3.5-15x50, with badger ordinance rings and a scope level.

I took this on a trade recently, scope is in great shape, rings are in great shape, reticle is illuminated. Glass is beautiful. I wish I could hold onto this but Ive just found out that an oil leak on my truck is going to be significantly more expensive than I was hoping. So last in first out.

Scope + rings + level = $1200 shipped lower 48.

THE SITE HAS A 48 HOUR BUMP RULE. DO NOT BUMP IT AGAIN UNTIL THEN OR POST WILL BE DELETED AND YOU WILL BE BANNED.

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