I have been using a Hornady OAL gauge to find distance to the lands in support of selecting seating depth.

Although it is often criticized, I found that in taking a series of measurements with the OAL gauge, it quickly became apparent which of those few that were outliers (mostly stopping at some initial resistance and not really getting to the lands) vs those that were a set of very consistent measurements which are valid and useful.

Many of you are far more experienced in popping your bolts apart may choose to use the Alex Wheeler method (vid on his website)


Greg Dykstra of Primal Rights has a video on a similar process to Mr. Wheeler's

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But, I don't routinely take my bolts apart (probably should gain some experience with this) and as said, the OAL gauge seemed to work fairly consistently with a bit of practice.

But I just got a pre-fit barrel back and with it new and in hand (i.e. not screwed into an action), I thought it would be a good opportunity to compare the results of OAL gauge measurements with the method Cal of Precision Rifle Blog attributes to Mark Gordon of Short Action Custom (but maybe there were other earlier advocates of this method).

That vid can be found below but basically you drop a sized case into the chamber of a barrel with bullet seated long, give the base of the cartridge a couple of taps, then see if you can extract it easily using just the nail on your pinky finger. Now, of course it will be obvious when the bullet is seated very long to start as the base will be proud of the chamber. But once you get close and the case pretty much looks flush at a glance, then this pinky thing works well. Just keep increasing seating depth until you can drop the case in, give it a couple of light taps, and easily extract it with your small finger nail and can do this three times in a row (just for higher degree of validation, IMO).

That vid is here:

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So, a few days ago I did both OAL and the "Mark Gordon" method and found very consistent results with both and only .004" difference in results in the two methods.

Perhaps for some types of competition (e.g. bench rest), .004" is significant, but its not to me. Not when we can easily burn the throat back .003" or more per 100 rounds. So, I'd be fine with the OAL results but with a prefit I don't think I'd have any issue with pulling the barrel and redoing the Gordon method as some significant number of rounds down the tube.

So, I'm going with the figure from the Gordon method (and by the by, I did it well more than 3 times and found it generated highly consistent results.

For most of you experts this is like reloading kindergarten but I enjoyed this little experiment and perhaps it will be valuable to to new and/or less experts shooters.

Consider it a public service message!

Cheers

A close family member of mine has a Ruger 10/22 that they put a Kidd barrel on and a KRG Bravo on (at my suggestion). I don't know why, but they clean it after every range trip (maybe 50 rounds when they go). I don't know what happened but they stripped out the action screw in the receiver... before they buy another receiver, is this one salvageable?

It seems to me the best option is to ream this out and tap it for the next size up, but I realize that would change the torque value needed when installing it in the Bravo. Does anyone know how to compute the new torque value needed? Also, what is the recommended torque value that KRG suggests? I don't own a 10/22 and this family member has lost the documentation.

They asked me about using a Helicoil, but I didn't think that was a great idea as this 10/22 is used for "precision" and didn't think a Helicoil was the best option for that.

Anyone have any thoughts on it before he buys another receiver?

I honestly think the best option is to buy another receiver and use that with the Kidd barrel and Bravo chassis, then tap this receiver out for the next size up, slap the factory barrel and stock on it and have a 2nd rifle (10/22 in stock form).

So the facts are out and the PRS is pretending that nothing has happened by their leadership. This guy literally bullied a youth shooter and took their prize and thinks by saying sorry that his actions should be excused by the community. If this is acceptable what else happens behind closed doors.

I’m appalled that this guy is any sort of leadership position or even thinks he deserves to represent the USA for the world shoot. He should be removed from the running immediately.

People should think hard about supporting any company or organization that allows adults to bully children.

Hats off to the NRL22 for banning him. Everyone else should grab some balls and follow suit.




Now we need to add prize table security

This is my first time to start the handloading

But one of my friend gave me a bunch of tools for handloading

I think i need to pay for these items

Looks like just some of it was used once other wrapped with plastic are looks new to m
Approximately how much i own him?

200bucks?

Various Items for Sale.
Prices are shipped via USPS.
PayPal or Venmo Only (FF/Gift)

Items:

LMT MRP 16" CL 5.56 Barrel (~200rds down bore. Will come with factory A2 hider not the SFMB) - 320

SOLD





2x KAC 20rd SR-25 (308) Magazines - $80 each or $150 for both SOLD
Spiritus Systems 34 Alpha Chest Rig w/ Fat/Back Straps & Bungee Kit - $100 SOLD
AI AICS 5rd 308 Magazine - $40 SOLD
Eagle Industries Sniper Stock Pouch w/ Round Holder - $30 SOLD
AI AXSR/AXMC/ASR 12rd 300WM/PRC Magazine - $80 SOLD
TAB Gear Small Rear Bag - $20 SOLD
Mystery Ranch 3 Day Assault Pack (Medium) - $280 [SOLD]

Stating the U.S. Army backs Israel in it's war against Hamas and the gun manufacterers are just bad.

Boo fucking hoo. One more reason to avoid Austin during the music fagfest.

One year it rained and the Dillo Dirt which is Austin's hippy-cutsie name for recycled dried sewage thats used to cover the festival grounds turned back into septic sludge. The hippies rolled in shit and loved it, showing there's more than one way to catch Hepatitus in Austin.

Good morning my fellow uncle Sams misguided children. This issue has me scratching my head for real. So, to give you an overview I've been reloading for years and never experienced this. So, I'm reloading 338 Lapua, and these brass cases are on their 4th rotation of being reloaded. I didn't do anything different than all the other times I've reloaded these rounds. I clean the brass in dry media, i then remove the old primers, I anneal using the amp annealer, i then full-length size, trim, debur, seat new primers, powder drop, then seat the round. So i noticed when i full length sized, some took less effort than others, and another strange thing is then I'm using a micrometer die from Redding or another name brand which has seated the bullets perfectly previously, but when I seat the rounds some feel like it takes a normal amount of pressure to seat, and some are real easy going in, and when i measure the OAL, I get on some 2.980 which is my OAL i use, and some seat at 2.972. For the neck tension should I full length size with my bushing full length sizing die with a little smaller sized bushing die, and then run the correct mandrel die that I want to set my neck tension to get a more accurate neck tension because I'm sizing from the inside out? Also, what could possible cause my bullets to seat at different depths on a seating die that's been super accurate? Its lapua brass and Sierra HPBT 300 grains. Feels like everything is pointing to the neck tension, and neck tension has an effect on seating, but what would cause such a shift in seating depths on a micrometer die. I checked to see if anything was loose, and everything is locked down. Your thoughts?

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IMHO this is the best explanation of the course of the war that i have seen. it appears to be accurate from things i know to be true from other sources.
to me,as a reader of v.many books on ww2 e. front,his aside comments on it kursk,bagration,battle loses,stalins army,reasons for german efficiency. objections or comments?

Hello all. Just joined the forum and this is my first information seeking post. I’m looking to build a 6mm ARC upper to go on my high quality 5.56 multi-cal lower. I spec’ed out and assembled all the parts for my 5.56 build about 15 years ago. So I’m not completely green. I’m looking to build the 6mm upper to be a strict bench rifle and I want to accurately shoot out to 1000 meters and beyond. I know I’ll need new magazines and I’ll have to change out the BCG, or at least the bolt head. There might be some other mods to my lower. But this post is specifically asking about the barrel and gas system. All over the internet, there are so many differing opinions about barrel length, twist rate, rifling and gas system length. I decided to go the round creator and I contacted Hornady. The tech guy said for my application I should get a 24” barrel with a 1:7 twist and a carbine length gas system with an adjustable gas block. I forgot to ask about 4 or 5R rifling. The recommended carbine length gas system seemed a bit short. So here I am asking you folks what you recommend based on your first-hand experience. Please understand I’m not looking for any advice or recommendations on barrel manufacturers or manufacturers of any part for that matter. This is strictly recon on barrel and gas system specs. Once I have gathered enough info and decided on what to get, I will work on who to get parts from. I pre-emptively thank anyone who contributes information to my build!

My meopta B1 15x took a dump this weekend during a match, it fogged up and now has double vision. I purchased it 4 years ago from camera land. I messaged Doug Sunday and he was awesome and responded to me the same day recommending I call Eric at meopta and gave he Eric’s phone number. I have call three times and left 2 messages and no response from Eric. Has anyone else tried to use the meopta warranty or another contact number I can try? I used the 1800 number.

Any help would be appreciated

Ran across this photo today while looking for something else.

I never considered rifles that are only 25yrs old to be Vintage but after seeing some of the other threads in this sub-forum, I guess this counts.

Directly from the Way Back machine. This is me/KMW from November, 1999.
At the time, it was one of the biggest single jobs for me.



During this period, these type rifles and scopes were state of the art for Law Enforcement SWAT sniper deployment. Dig the SIMRAD mounting cleat.
Originally these were Remington Custom Shop 40X-repeaters in .308 Win. purchased by a Federal agency in the late 1980's.

My job was to re-machine/true all of the actions, clean up the triggers, surface grind recoil lugs then custom chamber and install Kriegers. Refinish had to be in matte black of course back then! It was a total of 40 rifles to be rebuilt, broken into two groups for this customer job.

Later, they cycled back through for new barrels again and McMillan A2 stocks.

I still have the test targets (3 groups from each rifle) and they were hammers!
Many of these rifles have rotated back through the KMW shop for re-barrels since then and a few are still in service but with different stocks. Most have been destroyed as they had new rifles built to take their place.

Rifles, scopes and non-gray hair have come a long way since then!

Euro Optics just sent out an email on a new SIG Thermal Clip on. I believe there is a hands on event going on at SIG right now. Anyone have any details besides what's mentioned in the ad? Priced at $4K

Thermal

Description

Features of the ECHO CV25 Multi-Purpose Thermal Clip-On Device​

• Compact at only 5" with a QD mount
• Eyepiece optimized for parallax-free clip-on application, and can be used as a thermal sight
• LWIR 640x512 VGA 12um 50Hz thermal core with ≤20mK sensitivity
• Record still photos and video with audio
• Configurable via the BDX App including live video streaming
• Rechargeable and removeable 18650 lithium-ion battery with 9-hour runtime on a single charge
• IP67 Waterproof rating, 25mm Objective, 17° FOV, 1024x768 AMOLED microdisplay
• Ships with EVA Case, Bikini cover, (2) 18650 batteries, and USB-C charging cable
• SIG SAUER Infinite Guarantee unlimited lifetime warranty

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Specifications

• Size:4.96" x 2.99" x 3.07"
• Weight:18.8 ounces
• Thermal Sensitivity:≤20mK
• Magnification Range:1x - 8x
• Field of View:17.6°
• Battery Type(x1) 18650

Soooo.....

Many years ago as a young Marine, I remember my first M14 and it was love at first shot. I later became part of a small USMC sponsored shooting team (not the official USMC Rifle Team) and was issued a match M14 built by the USMC Rifle Team armorers. This rifle is what i first used to shoot 1000yd matches with only Iron Sights.

After more than 40 years, I have finally made the move to purchase a Armscorp "M21" Marked M14 NM Semi-Automatic Rifle with ART II Scope. In addition to this cool scope from the Viet Nam era, the barrel appears to be made by Krieger. I purchased it through the Rock Island Auction and am currently anxiously awaiting its delivery.

Can anyone point me to resources for training material on the ART II scope?

Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon 1 20 Ga - $2050 (shot 100 rounds through it) 28"

Beretta AL 391 Teknys 12 Ga Sporting - $SOLD- 30"

FN SC 1 12 Ga with green laminate stock - $1450

Prices are shipped to your dealer. Pictures soon

New die, followed the instructions included to set it up - twist in until it touches the raises ram and then another 1/8-1/4 turn.
Lubed the once fired brass inside and out, raises the ram but the brass has way too much resistance. Feels like it goes easy for the first quarter and then I practically have to hang on the ram handle to push it in. That's where I stopped. Also tried the same with new, unfired brass, same issue.

Alpha brass
6mm Dasher

I also tried removing the whole recapping unuty (that has the depriming pin and the expander ball) and run the brass just in the die body. Same issue, gets too much resistance at the same 1/4 way in.

New to this so it's likely that I'm not doing something right but I'm not sure what.

Thank you

I am considering starting a heavy equipment business where having a CDL would be beneficial.

Since our beloved Federal government has seen fit to stick their fucking nose into everything, now you need to take an approved course to even be able to test for your CDL.

What is the absolute easiest, quickest way to get a class A CDL?

Most companies want to tell you how professional and in depth their training is. IDGAF about that and just want to get the stupid stamp to make the feds happy so they fuck off and I can take my CDL test. I can already drive non synchromesh vehicles, and have driven stuff with air brakes before, long trailers, etc.

Driving the vehicle isn't the issue here, especially since 99% of my driving would be on rural roads.

Any of you know of the most down and dirty, cost effective, "approved" training course out there?

Thanks.

This popped up a few days ago and I realized it hasn't been shared here. L3i just came out with what might be the best deal on a aftermarket barrel for the CZ 457 (At least for NRL and PRS shooters). It is a 24 inch straight 1.180 profile barrel with a match chamber and target crown. They haven't officially said where the blank comes from, but based on the diameter there are only a few options- All of them being top tier barrel manufacturers.

The 1.180 barrel diameter is a huge deal for those looking for optimal balance on their CZ 457. Based on my calculations, the barrel should weigh around 7 lbs giving you an extra 3 lbs up front over a 20.5 inch MTR barrel. This means that almost any chassis or stock you fit this to will require little to no extra weight up front for balance.



They originally priced these at ~$550, but was told by @Thesepaperwings they were able to secure a better deal due to ordering the blanks in a larger batch with the barrels for their new Stinger Action. So the price right now is $329.00 + tax and $6 for shipping. I personally think the value is huge and already placed an order. They didn't say how long this pricing will be available, but it's definitely a good deal.

Obviously no testing data yet, but based on the quality of everything else I've seen/gotten from L3i, I'm confident it'll be great. I'll post results from ammo testing, balance, etc once it comes in.

Berger 105's @ $221.00/per 500 count plus shipping
Berger Hybrid 109's @ $248.00/per 500 count plus shipping
Call or text Alicia@ 785-643-1264

Well,

This is back up. I had pulled the original ad as I was going to keep it, but just got confirmation my 2011 build is finished and I want to recoup some funds....

Having said that, its still just as lightly used as before, only set up twice on the range to sight in a few rifles.... However, my dumba** had it riding in the back seat of my truck, and it rubbed against a metal ammo can, and scratched (removed finish) on the Ball Head (as pictured) so I am knocking off some $$.

I do want to sell this, but I'm not desperate, so please no low-ball offers. I'm pretty firm on price.

Comes with 55mm ball head with Area 419 QD Arcalock.

$700 shipped CONUS... Paypal FF or Venmo preferred.

Would like to sell a Zermatt TL3 with Proof SS comp contour 6cm 26" and has a mpa dn3 6.5mm muzzle brake. The action and barrel have around 400rds thru it. I also have roughly 300rds of lapua srp brass that can be sold with the barreled action.
BA with brake-$1550
BA with brake and brass-$1800

This HK MSG90A1 started out as a parts kit that was built on a HK SR9 rifle by TSC Machine. This is the closest you will ever get to a real MSG90 here in the USA, as the MSG90's were not imported for civilian use. This rifle is in New unfired condition since it was built. The MSG90A1 has a polygonal barrel that is weighted at the muzzle to aid harmonic stabilization of barrel whip for increased accuracy. It has a Anschutz style T-way on the forend specific to the MSG90 rifles allowing easy installation of a Harris bipod or whichever your favorite bipod may be. This is a dream rifle for a HK collector's. Don't let this one get away from your collection.

To purchase this gun, you must message me though the board here or contact me through our web site email:


[email protected]


We must talk via voice to make any arrangement. Do not wire or send any funds without calling the number you receive by contacting me through this site or via the above email. Pay close attention to that email address as scammers make emails that look similar. Our business is in Tulsa Oklahoma, I am in Tulsa Oklahoma, and our bank is a locally owned bank in Tulsa Oklahoma.

Price: Sold!

Commies gonna do what commies do, which is take away guns. Or at least try to.

Idiot states that we have to get automatic weapons banned. Semi-automatic rifles are far outweighed by shot guns and hand guns. And only gangsters are converting Glocks to full auto, illegally. So, yeah, those weapons are not allowed by the law.

But that does not matter. The intent is to take away your guns.

Take all of the gun deaths. I mean, from mass shooters, to lover quarrels, to gang bangers to suicides. All of it. Not a drop in the bucket compared to the millions killed by communism, which is what this idioto in the SG office wants.