epeet said:

I don't have an Osprey. I've been really happy with the Rock Creek prefits that I've purchased over the years. If I timed the sale, I was in for around $500, which seemed fair for a prefit, especially given all the options that they have programed in over at PVA.

I don't need an Osprey. I'm not shooting PRS, I'm not shooting benchrest, I'm shooting steel and anything around 1 MOA is going to work great for me. This isn't a knock, but at that price I can swing for the moon and get a Brux, Bartlein, etc. What kept me coming back to PVA was a great barrel at a great price, with way more options for customization than anyone else doing prefits offered. Anyway, useful to know that the lower (cheaper) tier of barrel isn't coming back.

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I used to miss the rock creeks but nothing is the same price it was 5 years ago. Rock creek blanks included.

I just paid 658 for an osprey chambered and threaded.
Your named blanks are 450 and 470 at bugholes. Most smiths are charging 300-450 to chamber a barrel, so let’s say 750-900 all in.
So by having the same guy make the barrel and then chamber it you cut out the middle man’s cut and get a premium product for less overall.

You can have your smith 400 do a lesser blank at 200 but then you’re capped at a lesser quality barrel for the same costs. 1moa doesn’t cut it in my opinion so that’s not gonna happen.

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He is still a despicable human being

A ton back in stock!!!!

We have the XLR Element 4.0 in stock with new options as described below:

XLR Element 4.0 Magnesium models come with a Carbon Fiber grip and stock:


XLR Element 4.0 Aluminum models come with a Ergo grip and C6 stock:

Redlion said:

I can't find anything that indicates that the short act and/or suppressors being off the NFA being in the bill being passed. I presume we are screwed again.

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In more ways than one.

Almost had an uh oh. 3x fired hornady. Only using it because I wanted to play with some 155's. Usually run norma. 73gr of H4350, standard winLR. Velocity is right around 3300.


What is want to know is, what made this dent? Caught the case in my hand when extracted, so it never hit the ground. And it wasn't there before it was fired. Not that that ding could have survived the process anyway.

Randymarsh said:

Thanks and I don’t even use auto tune

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Now you got me cornfused- the only Autotune I know of is on Husqvarna chainsaws

Jsp556 said:

Hard to beat the deal EuroOptic has on the ALG rifles right now. $849

IMO a 16” carbine fits the “truck gun” role just fine.

ALG Defense El Jefe 5.56 NATO 16" Black Rifle For Sale - EuroOptic

ALG Defense El Jefe 5.56 NATO 16" Black Rifle For Sale

www.eurooptic.com

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It looks like a number of the Super Duty rifles have come down in price, too. I don’t know if I feel more sad about clicking the link you posted or having already spent my gun money for a while.

https://www.eurooptic.com/firearms?...zYyZfZmJfPUdlaXNzZWxlK0F1dG9tYXRpY3MmcGFnZT0x

fdkay said:

I say "Release the Kraken!"

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I've owned several FDNs. They do their job. I got grease in a reticle on one of them after four years of PRS use. I sent it in for warranty and had it back in a week. Optically, I see more detail with the FDN than I do with my ATACR. Used and cert prices on the USO put it in a very good price to performance spot. Even at full retail, it performs about the same as my other optics that were $3k plus (Kahles, Steiner, ATACR 7-35, Razor 3).

I have a Razor 3 on my ELR gun because it has more internal travel than the USO and I could get it $800 cheaper than the ATACR 7-35 at the time.

I have an ATACR 7-35 on my NRL22 gun, because min parallax on USO is too high.

They eyebox is a bit tight, but no worse than a Leupold or Razor 3.

If you can get a good price on a USO FDN ($2k and under), you're not getting screwed. If you'd rather get a Razor 3, ATACR, or XTR Pro for a few hundred dollars more, you do you. There's no perfect scope. Just the scope that fits your personal criteria best.

^

I dont see why a Mark 3HD 3-9x40 P5 MilDot wouldnt work.

Marc1776 said:

I contacted Freedom, and allowed for several days for some sort of action from Freedom

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They figured you'd wait another 3 years for a response.....

It happens more than you might realize. I remember when states were coming online with their sex offender registries back in the mid and late 2000's. School systems everywhere woke up to mass outrage as it was discovered that many of them had convicted sex offenders working every day with children. Teachers, janitors, bus drivers etc. Predators allowed access to the kids by the people you trust. My little girl is in a very exclusive private Christian school, and if I have to give hand jobs to truckers to pay for it, then I will, but she will never see the inside of a public school. I'll even call Burt and damnyankeeusmc and ask for insider tips before heading to the truck stop.

Bump, always open to trades too

Charcoal Victorious Alp said:

Only review I could find atm
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Ass To Mouth?

Welcome to my morning

Wow, this thread has taken some twists and turns. A few comments after reading through some...

Onebadstang16 said:

do you guys cry about Richard from CS Tactical when he post to sell a zco… no you don’t.

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Actually, some people do cry about Richard, they just do so behind closed doors...

zaprosper said:

Are the Gen 1 and Gen 2 versions the same glass wise? Are the differences between Gen 1 and Gen 2 reticle and turret/mechanical differences only?

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I know there have been some responses to this already but speaking from personal experience, the Gen 1 had some optical distortion from about 60-70% out from center to the edge of the periphery. My eyes are very sensitive to distorted or blurry periphery in any scope design (one of the worst I had seen was the NF NX8 2.5-20 when it was first released; however, to Nightforce's credit they resolved that in later manufacture and now the "newer" NX8 2.5-20's are very impressive optically). I was thrilled with the March 5-42x56 Gen 2 version as it corrected this optical distortion from Gen 1 quite well, meaning the image sharpness is very clean from edge to edge. I have only had a pre-production version of the Gen 2 5-42 but based on my experience I am not surprised that so many are really liking this scope as I think for PRS style of shooting (where 98% of the time you are between 12x - 20x magnification) this scope is absolutely stunning, in fact, in this mag range I liked it better than all my other alpha scopes I was testing at the time including the TT 7-35 and I was very hard pressed to find any distinct advantage the TT provided (again within this mag range, where the TT excelled was above 25x).

It's interesting, Kahles kind of shook things up with their new K540i with ultra wide FOV; however, March had already been doing this for a number of years and I've been trying to enlighten the community on how advantageous wider FOV can be. Once Swaro's patent ends, presumably around spring/summer next year, I think we will begin to see more manufacturers take advantage of using wider FOV eyepieces in their designs.

Lawless said:

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It would be nice to have a house and a porch with an ocean view.

Thank you,
MrSmith

BurtG said:

Hornady is good shit.

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It’s not though. If you happen to get a good lot then yes it will be good ammo but never great or exceptional. Their problem is that their lot to lot consistency is absolutely horrible and it’s been that way since before Covid and powder availability and every other possible excuse. I have experienced this over and over again buying their ammo because I continue to use it even though I would not overall generalize their products as “good shit”. I feel like “usually acceptable” would be more accurate.

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Good for him. That money was much better spent on durable goods than terrorists.

redneckbmxer24 said:

Yes Freedom Munitions is trash ammo, always has been and likely will be. This is pretty well documented. They should replace defective ammo but if they did that they’d be out of business.

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Also, if they did that, it would almost certainly be replaced with more defective ammo.

WeR0206 said:

Im looking for a similar type of optic for a 6 arc gas gun build…what did you end up going with?

Here’s what I’m currently considering, strongly leaning towards Midas TAC Gen2 UHD 5-30x56:

MPVO: Bushnell Match Pro ED 3-18X50 (# MP31850DMI) (28oz) ($580), Ares BTR GEN3 HD 2.5-15x50 (27oz) ($692) , US Optics 3-18x50mm TXH EMCR (35oz) (too heavy) ($620), Burris XTR III 3.3-18x50mm (# 201204) (30oz) ($964) (don't like the reticle), Element Titan 3-18x50 (34oz) (too heavy) ($780)

HPVO: Athlon Midas TAC Gen2 UHD 5-30×56 (30oz) ($585), Vortex Viper HD FFP (VMR-4) 5-25x50 (25oz) ($850), Athlon Midas TAC Gen2 HD 6-24X50 (26oz) ($540), Athlon Helos BTR GEN2 4-20×50 (27oz) ($540), Arken EPL-4 6-24x50 (24oz) ($350)

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If you are considering an HPVO, Midway currently has the PST II 5-25 on sale for 600 bucks. Not the best reticle, but it is such a damn good scope, it is hard to pass up.

Why not just use a flat edge along the flat top and see what its actually doing.

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